Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby mhtaylor » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:05 am

I recently 'finished' this model that I began 18 months ago and then abandoned. You can find it in the 3D Warehouse here: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... 1df6d2aa45 I'd love to know what you think of it.

Here's a video: http://www.flickr.com/photos/martintaylor/5459329786/

Here are a few renders, some using Twilight, some native from SketchUp:




I've already heard from geodesic dome experts that the both greenhouse domes and the fuel cells at the rear aren't correct but I don't currently have the energy to go back and rework them.

Regards - Martin
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby Krisidious » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:38 am

awesome...
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby boofredlay » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:39 am

I am having flashbacks now. Great model.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby honoluludesktop » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:00 am

I remember that movie, Bruce Dern (sp?) wasn't it?
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby boofredlay » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:41 am

It was Bruce Dern.

Martin, I remember your Huey drone as well.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby museummaker » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:12 am

Great job!

The model even has a 70's movie feel to it. :thumb:
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby mhtaylor » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:18 am

Boofredlay wrote:It was Bruce Dern.

Martin, I remember your Huey drone as well.
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That was me; can you tell this movie had a big effect of me as a child in the 70's? I used a lot of reference photos of the original 26' long model when building this model. Unfortunately they aren't that numerous or that detailed so I had to use some imagination too. Hopefully it captures the spirit of the ship even if all the greebies are correct.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby mhtaylor » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:21 am

honoluludesktop wrote:I remember that movie, Bruce Dern (sp?) wasn't it?


Yes - I even put a screencap from the movie of Bruce Dern into the window of the model - you can see it and him in the video: http://www.flickr.com/photos/martintaylor/5459329786/
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby Bryan K » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:43 am

Well done! You've beat me to it!

Definitely one of the cooler spaceships of the 1970s.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby david_h » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:50 am

I loved this movie as a kid. I was about 14 or so when it came out. I did a space station in Architecture school that was inspired by this. A space station iiwth a green house dome but my rotated to make artificial gravity.

I think Pete did some models of the little robot drones. Huey, Duey and Louie.

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Martin, I remember your Huey drone as well.
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Forgive me Martin.. . I need to give credit where credit is due :oops:

So tell me. . .you can admit it . . .did you call cry when Louie gets lost?

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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby mhtaylor » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:34 pm

David_H wrote:I loved this movie as a kid. I was about 14 or so when it came out. I did a space station in Architecture school that was inspired by this. A space station iiwth a green house dome but my rotated to make artificial gravity.

I think Pete did some models of the little robot drones. Huey, Duey and Louie.

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Martin, I remember your Huey drone as well.
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Forgive me Martin.. . I need to give credit where credit is due :oops:

So tell me. . .you can admit it . . .did you call cry when Louie gets lost?

Awesome Model!!! :thumb:


I can well-up just thinking about it. I was a massive Star Wars fan growing up in the industrial North of England in the late 70's and 80's and they used to play this movie on TV all the time after SW hit. I loved the Droids and ship but hated the superfluous Joan Baez numbers. You could also spot this ship, or bits of it, in the original Battlestar Galactica fleet. They even knew how to reuse components back then :)
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby numbthumb » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:16 pm

Impressive job, congratulations!
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby agamemnus » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:48 pm

Amazing.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby EscapeArtist » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:19 pm

Very nicely detailed. I remember the movie well, haven't seen it in years though.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby david_h » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:24 am

the movie had a strong environmental message as well for the time. . .in order to be green and respect mother nature. . .you have to kill people.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby TaffGoch » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:13 pm

mhtaylor wrote:I've already heard from geodesic dome experts that the both greenhouse domes and the fuel cells at the rear aren't correct but I don't currently have the energy to go back and rework them.

I was only trying to help,...

ValleyForge_Temcor_SU.jpg

Fuel_pod_Valley_Forge.png

...honest!

(I did provide my SU files, BTW.)

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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby mhtaylor » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:22 pm

Taff - it's not you, it's me. I just can't face going back to it right now. It turned into one of those models I thought was going to be easy but contained more details than I ever imagined. Those fuel pods you made are particularly fantastic. If you put either in the warehouse I could incorporate them into the model if you like and you would get credit as a contributor.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby TaffGoch » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:40 pm

Martin,

I apologize if I gave the impression that it's about credit. I certainly don't mind if you use the dome & pod model files I emailed you, to upgrade your model, with or without attribution.

I always strive to encourage modelers, by providing geodesic support. That's my "thing."

I'm chagrined that you may have taken my emails as criticism. That was not my intent.

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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby mhtaylor » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:55 pm

TaffGoch wrote:Martin,

I apologize if I gave the impression that it's about credit. I certainly don't mind if you use the dome & pod model files I emailed you, to upgrade your model, with or without attribution.

I always strive to encourage modelers, by providing geodesic support. That's my "thing."

I'm chagrined that you may have taken my emails as criticism. That was not my intent.

-Taff


Taff - I took it in the spirit it was intended. I don't think of the word 'criticism' as a negative one and a value you having got in touch with me and showing me your work. It was certainly more accurate than mine but I didn't want to just incorporate your hard work without permission. Now I have it I will revisit the model.
Thanks - Martin

PS the Eng Lit grad in me loves that you used the word 'chagrined' :)
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby TaffGoch » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:21 pm

Martin,

I look forward to seeing your progress, as you refine your model. You may note that I've added your model to my "Geodesic" Warehouse collection.
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For those of you, not familiar with the details of the "Valley Forge," Martin & I have, both, been using this excellent website, which details props from the movie:

Valley Forge - Prop

In particular, I used these two photos, in my research:

Valley Forge dome, Temcor subdivision.jpg

pub_tanks.jpg

What I found particularly surprising was that the (1972) movie preceded the building of the Antarctic dome (1975,) yet, the skeletal framework for both domes is virtually identical, both in geodesic subdivision and profile (height/width ratio.)
SilverDome.jpg

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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby mhtaylor » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:46 pm

Taff - I have incorporated your greenhouse domes and fuel cells into the model now. It's still in the same place on the warehouse: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... 1df6d2aa45 LMK what you think.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby mhtaylor » Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:29 pm

Here' a quick render from the Twilight plugin with the new domes - unfortunately I didn't get all the materials right for some reason.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby TaffGoch » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:25 am

 
Nice Twilight render, Martin. That was quick (and, I hope, painless?)

I looked over your model, and particularly like scene 4 (but I'm geodesically biased.) I changed some of the SU view settings, to display the "copper" cables:
ValleyForgeAssembled.png

It would be nice to be able to render a photo-realistic image that produces the "glint" from the dome frame, as in some of the movie stills, but I don't think that render engines are implemented to provide reflections from "edges." (The outer copper cables, in my model, are just edges, and it's my understanding that render engines are set-up to render faces.)
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I suspect, that nowadays, this movie prop would never have been built, as CGI would be employed, instead. Gone are those days, not so long ago....

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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby TZY » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:01 pm

Great thread...
Im a huge fan of this ship. Im in the process of building a kit of this ship using another mesh.
If you looking for info on this ship contact me.
Once again Great work.
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Re: Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

Postby liam887 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:09 pm

18 months! don't worry man I share your pain sometimes I don't think my Avatar helicopter will ever be finished haha!
Good work, excellent model, what size is it coming in at? ill download it when my new computer finally gets delivered, might download it on Wednesday to the work computer on my dinner if i have time.
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