[Plugin] Hidden Manager (08.Feb.2015)

[Plugin] Hidden Manager (08.Feb.2015)

Postby schorradt » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:50 pm

I want to publish my first plugin.
I hope it can be useful to someone.

Try it out. I look forward to your feedback.
I tested the plugin in SketchUp Pro 2014, please report errors!

Description:
This plugin shows all the hidden elements in the model in a separete Window to control this Entities. You can from there select each item, or make them visible.

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Update: 08.Feb.2015
- Test: tested in Sketchup 2015 (do not install about the sketchucation store plugin, there is an old version)

Update: 21.Mar.2014
- Bugfix: Strict Code Bug and some files renamed, tested in Sketchup 2014

Update: 16.Feb.2011
- Change to start the observer on activate and remove on deaktivate now. i hope the bugsplash from other Plugins (ImageTrimmer or Slicer etc...) is removed...

Update: 17.Jan.2011
- Change the onmouseover in the list from hidden/visible to select/unselect


Update: 20.Okt.2010 (Second)
- Bugfix and support for open Groups und Components
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (19.Okt.2010)

Postby thomthom » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:53 pm

Congrats on your first plugin.

Could you please add a short description of what the plugin do?
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby schorradt » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:44 am

New Update and more Features...
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby caleidos4d » Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:38 pm

Error: :shock:
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby schorradt » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:51 pm

oh sorry, i have postet a new Version now. This bug is corrected.
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby Ken » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:11 pm

schorradt wrote:oh sorry, i have postet a new Version now. This bug is corrected.



Well, the bug is still present.

Thanks for the plugin

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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby schorradt » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:28 pm

Please try to deactivate the Plugin and then reactivate. the Problem is the Entry in die Registry for the Plugin. I have fixed the bug in the "mx_hidemanager_loader.rb" ...
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby schorradt » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:35 am

No feedback?! I am looking forward to your opinions ;)
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby Ken » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:41 am

Ken wrote:
schorradt wrote:oh sorry, i have postet a new Version now. This bug is corrected.



Well, the bug is still present.

Thanks for the plugin

Ken



Well, I have tried again and have the same error as before. I did removed all of the plugin before re-installing the plugin.

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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby thomthom » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:21 am

Works fine for me.


Got some thought on it:
1. It'd be helpful if the ComponentDefinition name was listed in the list.

2. Being able to disable the automatic hide/show feature when you mouse over an entitiy - it floods the undostack which I'd rather avoid.
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby caleidos4d » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:32 am

not work ;(
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby thomthom » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:43 am

Are you sure you extracted all the files correctly?
(btw, for those who report it's not working, what SU version do you use? And what OS?)
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby Ken » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:04 pm

Sketchup 8, Vista. I have the same error code as shown in Caleidos4D post.

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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby rv1974 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:22 pm

schorradt wrote:No feedback?! I am looking forward to your opinions ;)

Well sorry if I upset you but this manager is rather useless IMHO. Why?
Because your model is itself a manager of your 3d elements. And if you'd turn on "show the hidden geometry" mode you can easily select\unhide\view it's properties without any additional tables.
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby thomthom » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:24 pm

I don't see as a bad idea. It's like the Unhide By Name in 3dsMax. In complex models it can be easier to locate the object in a list instead of visually in the model.

All though I normally hide/unhide objects by layer, I occasionally hide objects temporarily - and some times several. Bringing up a list without leaving the current viewport is a nice thing.
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby Pherim » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:11 pm

I also think it's a good idea, as you can see all your hidden objects at once. The only thing I miss is that hidden objects within groups or components are displayed but I don't know whether this can be done. Maybe similar to the Outliner as a tree structure?
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby CAntonis » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:27 pm

Its a very interesting plugin! And as it is your first I feel like congatulating you for doing work that help the rest of us , have a better workflow.
I could really make use of it, but I am not going to download yet. You should really listen to Thom, if you don't mind me say, cause he is very experienced.
This plugin can be "a must have" for everyone.

Keep up the good work, and the feedback will come.

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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby caleidos4d » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:39 pm

thomthom wrote:Are you sure you extracted all the files correctly?
(btw, for those who report it's not working, what SU version do you use? And what OS?)


yes... as Ken' post.
i have windows 7 and sketchup 8 pro
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby schorradt » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:05 am

Thx for the feedback...
Is there a function to the undo function to prevent
for the undo stack? Or a code snipped?

The error is to be here, I can not find...
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby thomthom » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:24 am

schorradt wrote:Is there a function to the undo function to prevent
for the undo stack? Or a code snipped?

There is a way to make the previous or next transparent, but I've had bad experience with them, tricky to get right. Merging undo stack items can be unpredictable to deal with. And both would cause the wrong name to appear in the Edit>Undo menu. I'd not recommend them.
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby caleidos4d » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:05 am

schorradt wrote:The error is to be here, I can not find...


.... :shock:
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby schorradt » Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:50 pm

okay ... i looking for another solution...

@Caleidos4D
Sorry ,but in my testenvirement, i can´t see any errors :( . i do not understand it. maybe another plugin for a conflict?!
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby kmead » Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:11 am

rv1974 wrote:Well sorry if I upset you but this manager is rather useless IMHO. Why?
Because your model is itself a manager of your 3d elements. And if you'd turn on "show the hidden geometry" mode you can easily select\unhide\view it's properties without any additional tables.


Honestly this was an unnecessarily rude response. It may be useless to you, but may be of great use to others whose work process is different from yours.

I tend to hide some geometry to work on other items, being able to toggle a specific item into visibility without having to make all of them visible and the attendant slowdown of the program because of the huge overhead increase of all the sub geometry that also turns on when I show hidden geometry is a real boon.

So, thanks for an interesting and I think, quite useful plugin. Great first effort, would that I were able to be able to reciprocate with a plugin of my own. In any case thank you.

All the best and looking forward to your future efforts.

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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (20.Okt.2010)

Postby poohnut » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:25 am

Thanksssss
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (17.Jan.2011)

Postby schorradt » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:46 pm

little change in this Plugin.
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (17.Jan.2011)

Postby CAntonis » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:36 pm

17 Of january is my nameday! And this is a wonderful present!Downloaded and gonna test it!
Thank U very much!
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (16.Feb.2011)

Postby schorradt » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:43 pm

Update: 16.Feb.2011
- Change to start the observer on activate and remove on deaktivate now. i hope the bugsplash from other Plugins (ImageTrimmer or Slicer etc...) is removed...
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (16.Feb.2011)

Postby bdbox » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:06 am

Error Loading File mx_hidemanager_loader.rb
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/mx_hidemanager_loader.rb:58: syntax error
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new "Hidden Manager", File.join ("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs")
^
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/mx_hidemanager_loader.rb:58: syntax error
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new "Hidden Manager", File.join ("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs")
^
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/mx_hidemanager_loader.rb:58: syntax error
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (16.Feb.2011)

Postby schorradt » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:07 am

I'm sorry, but it works on my computer. I can find no error.
Perhaps the pathfunctions does not feature in Sketchup 7 !?
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Re: [Plugin] Hidden Manager (16.Feb.2011)

Postby thomthom » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:34 am

Henry:
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new "Hidden Manager", File.join ("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs")

This can confuse Ruby - you have space after the method name and the brackets. ( File.join ) On top of that you have that as one of the argument of another method call ( SketchupExtension.new ) where you don't use brackets.

To avoid potential errors, always use brackets. But most important of all, never leave a space between the method name and the brackets.

It's a bit odd that a SU7 user should report this error, because SU8's ruby is more strict. Regardless, this should work:
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new( "Hidden Manager", File.join("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs") )
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