Blender forum in sketchucation

Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby L i am » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:23 am

Hi all, I posted a suggestion in another thread so sorry if this seems like a duplicate. I am posting here to start a new thread.

"Just a thought bubble, might it be a good idea for the Sketchucation executives to consider creating a new forum in sketchucation specialising in transitioning from Sketchup to Blender? This may reinvigorate Sketchucation which has taken a beating since Trimble took over Sketchup. This may be a great help for people transitioning or simply for Skethup users to use the qualities of both programs. It would certainly work for me. Anyway like I said just a though bubble"

There has organically been a lot of chatter on Sketchucation about Blender of late. So am asking others who think this idea may have some merit for you to please hit the like button.
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby juju » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:35 am

technically, it would be a Blender sub in the sketchUcation forum

it probably couldn't do much harm, it may a be a great platform to get to know the workflow from SketchUp to Blender (eevee FTW)
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby Mike Amos » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:15 am

I cannot see any harm in it and believe it would be a positive. I find the attitude of many blender users on other fori to sketchup is so bad that nothing can be achieved so something that can improve work flow in sketchup would be a massive boost. Increased traffic here is not guaranteed but hopefully that will happen too.
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby samnorth » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:35 am

+1 for a Blender sub forum

Chipp's done a great job with his tut's but i'd appreciate seeing more discussions regarding SU <-> Blender - 2.8 will no doubt draw more attention from SU users too.
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby Khai » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:11 pm

Last night after reading with horror the su teams responses to criticism about the "upgrade", (if we're in an arms race with the users, if we gave you more power you'd only use it and want more? What the flying ****.)

I tried once again to use blender. (I've tried once or twice a year since about 2009) this time, I get it. 2.8 is the blender update we all wanted...

So count my vote for a blender forum.
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby andybot » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:46 pm

+1 from me. I'd love to share tips and ideas about using Blender and SU together.
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby Box » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:06 pm

On a technical note, this would have been more appropriate in the Ideas Box and Board Issues subforum. Rich would probably notice it faster and everyone can still add their thoughts on it.
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby solo » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:36 pm

Box wrote:On a technical note, this would have been more appropriate in the Ideas Box and Board Issues subforum. Rich would probably notice it faster and everyone can still add their thoughts on it.


Done, moved topic and a huge +! from me
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby elmer » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:19 pm

Great idea this new thread....
Just like Khai, I have tried many times to use blender but the unfriendly UI was sort of too much for my little brain :(
It seems that with the 2.8 update and Chippwalters tuts a new era is coming.
About the workflow from SketchUp to Blender is there any other way than exporting first from SketchUp to .obj and then import that file in blender?
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby Pixero » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:29 pm

+1 from me as well.
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby pbacot » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:36 pm

Sure why not? Blender may be an answer to my slow rendering woes.
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby db11 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:29 pm

I'm Blender-curious as well, but I've been waiting until the stable 2.8 release to dive in.

Chipp's advocation for a SU Model / EVEE render workflow makes a lot of sense to me, and with the 2.8 UI changes it provides a productive way of dipping our toes into Blender.

My only question is what are the min. system requirements for Blender 2.8 / EVEE? Anyone know? (I briefly tried looking on the Blender site a while back, but didn't come up with anything. Maybe I missed it, or maybe they hadn't posted yet)

I'm on a 2014 13" Macbook Pro with IRIS 5100 integrated graphics, so I doubt I'll be able to run it under my current setup. I have been considering buying a gaming PC with a fast Nvidia card (at least a Geforce 1070) as a rendering machine ...so this might be the impetus to bite the bullet and go for it!
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby pilou » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:37 pm

You have 2 Addons made by 2 Frenchies guys who permit to sculpt at the speed of light! :)



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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby liam887 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:16 am

I am using a custom configuration for my 2.8 Blender interface by Vaughan Ling aka 'HeavyPoly'. I got it as part of a tutorial here https://gumroad.com/vling (I bought the container ship tutorial). I believe you can get the config for free on his website however.

Now on day 4 of learning to model and it's going very well so far. It will be a perfect companion for SketchUp I think, hopefully I will be up to speed in a month.

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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby solo » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:27 am

Okay, I found a good intro into Blender ., shows the new UI. Looks so much easier than all previous versions.


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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby L i am » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:25 am

solo wrote:Okay, I found a good intro into Blender ., shows the new UI. Looks so much easier than all previous versions.




That is a good one to start with and that young guy (Blender Guru) is a very impressive individual.
I am daunted by Blender though, however the UI is Soooooo much better than it used to be. A hell of a lot of work must have gone into it :!: I have been playing with Blender including watching tutorials for a total of about 5 hours, I had to go and do a model in SU instead of shaking in the fetal position in a corner. It makes me feel so stupid :?

(Edited) The following link is Blender statistics apparently it is the most used 3D modelling software ever and is downloaded 16000 times a day with 6.5 million downloads per year!!!!! and that is going on 2017 stats.

https://www.blender.org/about/website/statistics/
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Re: Blender forum in sketchup

Postby measuredmove » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:47 am

Just the native render options, alone, in this makes Sketchup look a little sad.... :(
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby pilou » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:24 am

The other Guru is this guy! :)

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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby L i am » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:33 pm

I know this is perhaps a bit over the top, but this link shows what blender can do Ultimately, all within the program

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby Box » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:41 pm

Something to keep in mind, all software, just like any analog tool, is only as good as how well you learn how to use it. The correct hammer and chisel in untrained hands will reveal a driveway from a block of marble instead of a David.
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby L i am » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Box wrote:Something to keep in mind, all software, just like any analog tool, is only as good as how well you learn how to use it. The correct hammer and chisel in untrained hands will reveal a driveway from a block of marble instead of a David.


Of course thats why I started my post with, "I know this is perhaps a bit over the top" I was trying to convey the program's potential not necessarily our potential to produce this standard, of course ;)
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby hepf » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:28 pm

I usually hop from sketchup (make) to Blender, and it is rather painless, apart some quirks. Blender accepts .dae rather well. Instead I've had problems with exports from Sketchup to DAZ Studio, which is strange, since both programs use .dae as the default format. Any idea?
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby Khai » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:56 pm

hepf wrote:I usually hop from sketchup (make) to Blender, and it is rather painless, apart some quirks. Blender accepts .dae rather well. Instead I've had problems with exports from Sketchup to DAZ Studio, which is strange, since both programs use .dae as the default format. Any idea?


I'm betting only part of the model comes in.

and I'm thinking, you make your models multi coloured...? and I'll say of you keep them default white they load fine..

yup ran into that when I tried it. seems (from my limited understanding) SU puts out a DAE with each colour as an object and DS has issues with the way it's doing that.
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby pilou » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:07 pm

Bim ---> FreeCad --> Blender
Animation ;)





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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby ntxdave » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:38 pm

Pilou, are you saying (showing us) that Blender has the ability to print documents like LayOut?
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby liam887 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:53 pm

Well I am 4 days in and having lots of fun!
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby pbacot » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:51 pm

liam887 wrote:Well I am 4 days in and having lots of fun!

what is it?
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby pbacot » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:56 pm

Box wrote:Something to keep in mind, all software, just like any analog tool, is only as good as how well you learn how to use it. The correct hammer and chisel in untrained hands will reveal a driveway from a block of marble instead of a David.


Some of us just need a driveway ( I could use a new one, concrete not marble). And a forum is helpful for learning how. Not much help in getting a David though (I'd need a TON more to get there myself :-P )
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby pilou » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:55 pm

are you saying (showing us) that Blender has the ability to print documents like LayOut?


No, for the moment it makes "easily" (depends of users skill ;) animations of parts of Bim files!
But sure that in a few times, it will be capable! ;)
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Re: Blender forum in sketchucation

Postby liam887 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:13 pm

pbacot wrote:
liam887 wrote:Well I am 4 days in and having lots of fun!

what is it?


Some sort of robot loosely based on this https://www.artstation.com/artwork/egDZX
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