Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

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Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:20 pm

I thought it might be worthwhile posting some of my short gif tutorials here.
They are all varied and random, not meant as a progression to learn by, just answers to questions and random doodles that address many different situations.
Some will be over your head and others too easy to bother with, a mixture for all to wander through. Most of them will be watermarked with my facebook page.

So a very short one to start with.

Radial Bend and Thrupaint
This is an option for bending something while retaining a complex texture. Both of these are Fredo6 plugins available from the extension store. Both are single tools contained within a package of tools. FredoScale and FredoTools. An example of the gems hidden in Fredo's tools.

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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby ntxdave » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:29 pm

Thanks for starting this thread and sharing your wisdom with us. I am sure we will all learn a lot from it and will use it as a quick reference many times. :thumb:
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:36 am

Click Drag Orientate.
Here's a little trick that people often miss, you can use click and drag to set the axis of rotation for the rotate tool therefore allowing you to effectively mirror things by rotating them 180 degs. Particularly useful when the shape is off axis. I've used it here to make a drone frame and Fredo's Round Corner to smooth it off.

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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby pilou » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:26 am

Marvelous thread! :thumb:

If you mix it with this one you have all the power of SU under hands! :enlight:
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby rv1974 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:27 am

Never thought of rotating as mirroring (always use tig's mirror for this), nice to know!
Please keep posting
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby HornOxx » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:08 am

:thumb: :thumb: Dave hit it above - yes, it's great to have this thread as a Collecting Place for your really really good and desired Wisdoms - Box, thanks a lot for this thread and to make and share that at all!
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:11 am

Here's an oddball one, make an elephants trunk using Thomthom's Truebend.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:28 pm

I'll throw this one in as one of the fundamentals.
So many people have trouble rotating to a specific axis.
Try adding a plane on the axis you want to guide your rotations.
Done correctly 3 rotations should be the maximum needed from any position.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby rv1974 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:33 pm

you are the hero of rotating!
Always nice to see alternative ways of doing things
What I'd instead:
1. align UCS to face
2. copy face
3. align UCS to world
4. paste
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:55 pm

You lost me just before 1.
but I caught up at 4.

In other words, what on earth are you talking about.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby cotty » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:21 pm

The mentioned 4 steps in moving pictures...
("Copy" and "Paste" with shortcuts...)

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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:51 pm

That makes perfect sense Cotty, what ucs is is still beyond my limited language skills.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby rv1974 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:59 pm

ucs=axes
(Acad heritage)
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:11 pm

Here's a simple one, no plugins, no fancy tricks, just vanilla follow me. This shows why it is useful that follow me on a face removes the face. If it didn't there would be an internal face after the second follow me and it wouldn't form a solid.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby baz » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:02 am

Keep going Box, great stuff...
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:17 pm

Another simple no plugin one.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby pilou » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:27 pm

Great suspense till the end! :thumb:
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:42 am

Here's a very short one, straight to the point.
To create a radius corner of a specific size, start with the two point arc at any size, move along the edge till you get the magenta inference, click once, move back along that edge until you get the magenta a second time, don't click, let go of the mouse and type the radius you want and hit enter.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby HornOxx » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:40 am

:o :o always I have derived the desired radius with parallel guide lines - ok, it doesn't hurt to have a certain repertoir of geometry skills :D but hey, what would I/you have saved on time - so thanks to show this "hidden" secret !!!!! :)
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:48 am

I'm pretty sure Cotty taught me that one.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby gilles » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:56 am

Box wrote:Here's a very short one, straight to the point.
To create a radius corner of a specific size, start with the two point arc at any size, move along the edge till you get the magenta inference, click once, move back along that edge until you get the magenta a second time, don't click, let go of the mouse and type the radius you want and hit enter.


...and since it's arc you can modify the radius in entity info.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:02 pm

gilles wrote:
...and since it's arc you can modify the radius in entity info.

Or modify it via the cardinal points.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:41 pm

Here's one from a while back.
Follow me in Groups/Components. Follow me can be used with the 'path' separated from the 'profile'. This is a great way to build a structure of separate solids. The 'path' needs to be raw geometry but the 'profile' can be a group or component. The trick to it is to select the path, then activate the Follow me tool, then right click on the 'Profile' group and choose Edit Group, then click the profile.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby cotty » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:25 pm

Box wrote:I'm pretty sure Cotty taught me that one.

I've tried to teach this to my last SketchUp class, I'm sure some days after the lesson they even don't remember to have seen the "trick". ;)
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby ntxdave » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:02 am

Box wrote:Another simple no plugin one.

The concept of this one is a really great learning tool. I had some problems getting the sizes of everything to work out correctly. I also had some problems getting the delete tool to work out like in your video. But again, this is a GREAT learning exercise.

I wish there was a way to pause a gif. I had to watch several times to make sure I was catching all of the little tricks you were using.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:25 am

ntxdave wrote: I also had some problems getting the delete tool to work out like in your video.

That is just triple click, shift double click.
Triple click selects all, shift double click deselects the face and it's edges leaving the faces of the holes selected.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby baz » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:01 am

I am learning something from every one of these posts.
SketchUp is a bit like sailing. You know that you will never know it all and that you will never stop learning.
Cheers Box.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby Box » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:21 am

Cheers Baz, glad some people are getting something out of them.
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby HornOxx » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:48 am

I don't get tired of repeating me - yes, every time there is something new to learn here and BAZ´s comparison with sailing is great chosen. Especially this obvious concept of putting a model "on the left" like an untidy sock (which annoys my wife so much in real life) is so good and finally has flowed into my active repertoire - I wouldn't have come up with this idea on my own anyway ;) :D
also Cheers Box!
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Re: Some tips and tricks from out of the Box

Postby ntxdave » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:00 pm

Box wrote:That is just triple click, shift double click.
Triple click selects all, shift double click deselects the face and it's edges leaving the faces of the holes selected.


Thanks a bunch @Box. It was driving me nuts trying to figure out what I was doing wrong. I deleted each of the faces of the circles independently. Is this stuff documented anywhere, especially the shift double click?

I also had a problem replicating the first circle the way you did. Wound up with a problem with the orientation of it so I just drew it. A second time.

I do not use Sketchup very often anymore so replicating your video is both a good learning exercise as well as a good refresher.

Once again, thanks a ton for this thread. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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