SketchUp 2019 release

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Your opinion on posts / posting about the latest release of SketchUp.

Poll ended at Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:10 pm

I'm new to SketchUp and am unsure when new releases are due.
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I'm sticking to version 8 free for commercial use.
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I'm using an earlier version of SketchUp and am not in the market to upgrade.
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I'm using SketchUp Free (online) and should always be up to date.
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I'm using SketchUp Shop (online) and should always be up to date.
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I'm a little disappointed with SketchUp's updates over the last years and am somewhat reserved thus.
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I've moved to other 3D software am just checking in here from time to time.
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I'm too busy to wonder about the latest release.
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I'm excited but am just not making a fuss about it.
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I'm bound by NDA's and dare not be in the same neighbourhood as discussions about new releases.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby pbacot » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:35 am

Dave R wrote:
Derek Edison wrote:I see there was a maintenance release for MAC users on the 12th. Maybe that was it?

https://help.sketchup.com/en/release-notes-0


That was an update for Mojave users.


I wonder if that means if we go to Mojave we have to use v. 18 to avoid issues.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Dave R » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:13 pm

pbacot wrote:
I wonder if that means if we go to Mojave we have to use v. 18 to avoid issues.


Well, none of the earlier versions will be updated so if you update to Mojave and then have issues, you'll have to decide whether to go back to an earlier OS or update SketchUp. There seems to have been enough issues created by Mojave that they decided to put resources into updating SU2018 even this late in the cycle.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby andybot » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:17 pm

I'm sooo feeling this! I am still using 2016 because of all my plugins. I have 2018 on a secondary machine, just so I can open 2018 files I get from others, and for geolocate (which has been awful btw, since they can't use Google any more.)

dtrarch wrote:I updated to 2018 pro and what a PIA to re-install all the plugins. :thumbd: :thumbd: :thumbd:
Never bothered to install and use 2017 pro.
How about a real value update please :?:

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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby pbacot » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:19 pm

Dave R wrote:
pbacot wrote:
I wonder if that means if we go to Mojave we have to use v. 18 to avoid issues.


Well, none of the earlier versions will be updated so if you update to Mojave and then have issues, you'll have to decide whether to go back to an earlier OS or update SketchUp. There seems to have been enough issues created by Mojave that they decided to put resources into updating SU2018 even this late in the cycle.


Thanks. Yeah that sounds like an indication of the importance. I am on automatic update but have stayed in an older version for various reasons, partly for collaboration, and partly cause it ain't broke. Same with the OS.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby juju » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:45 pm

andybot wrote:I have 2018 on a secondary machine, just so I can open 2018 files I get from others...


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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby andybot » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:14 pm

Cool! I'm on the subscription, so it's not a big deal. It was more a comment about how completely underwhelming the last few version have been in terms of what I need for my day to day use.

juju wrote:
andybot wrote:I have 2018 on a secondary machine, just so I can open 2018 files I get from others...


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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby juju » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:43 pm

How close / accurate should one expect annual releases to be to the definition of annual, ie. how much "grace" would be reasonable? Asking for a friend... :-P
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Pistol_Peto » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:17 pm

juju wrote:How close/accurate should one expect annual releases to be to the definition of annual, ie. how much "grace" would be reasonable? Asking for a friend... :-P


I like the way Apple does it - you know in September they're going to release an iPhone. They announce the presentation date a few weeks out. In the presentation, they give the day everyone can order and when you'll receive it. It's always around the same time.

It would help if they announced a release date a month before releasing it.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby thorleyian » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:08 pm

I chose excited but not making a fuss about it, I imagine I’ll get labelled “evangelist” or something for that. I’d just call it quiet optimism.

I have a feeling today might be “the” day, with nothing to back up that theory though.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby ntxdave » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:09 pm

thorleyian wrote:I chose excited but not making a fuss about it, I imagine I’ll get labelled “evangelist” or something for that. I’d just call it quiet optimism.

I have a feeling today might be “the” day, with nothing to back up that theory though.

Agree with your first part but still betting on next so they do not have to have support staff on call during the Thanksgiving holidays. :D
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Pistol_Peto » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:29 pm

ntxdave wrote:
thorleyian wrote:I chose excited but not making a fuss about it, I imagine I’ll get labelled “evangelist” or something for that. I’d just call it quiet optimism.

I have a feeling today might be “the” day, with nothing to back up that theory though.

Agree with your first part but still betting on next so they do not have to have support staff on call during the Thanksgiving holidays. :D


My youthful exuberance is hoping today/tomorrow - but I like your guess better!
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby alpro » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:10 pm

ntxdave wrote:
thorleyian wrote:I chose excited but not making a fuss about it, I imagine I’ll get labelled “evangelist” or something for that. I’d just call it quiet optimism.

I have a feeling today might be “the” day, with nothing to back up that theory though.

Agree with your first part but still betting on next so they do not have to have support staff on call during the Thanksgiving holidays. :D


Maybe they're going to blow our socks off with this release, don't think it's a support staff issue since they released a new version of Trimble Business Center (5.0) yesterday, which had major changes from 4.10 and I would think TBC requires a lot more support than Sketchup.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby freebs » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:39 pm

juju wrote:CLICKBAIT! Just kidding...

Normally I would have seen a number of posts / threads related to the release of the latest version by this time, seeing that historically the new version is released somewhere in November (first half IIRC).

This year, I'm not seeing that. What are your thoughts on this?


I'm not holding my breath, but here's what I'd like to see:

I) FINALLY FIXING THE STUPID OUTLINER for one. I load in a halfway detailed CAD model to build a house from and, say, explode the input and if the outliner is showing, it will take 50x longer to get done as it struggles to update that window for every single change it makes to any geometry. Just. Why?

II) How about being able to search through the Layer manager by more than the first letter? Architects use layers and lots of them. Try selecting something and trying to set its layer to A-PORCH. There are about 100 A-somethingOrOther layer names in front of -PORCH but Sketchup only lets you type an A to get to that section and then scroll, scroll, scroll... I know, the program is waiting for VFB input, but why can't it wait for a shortcut for the $#@%-ing layer window's input and then switch to search mode? How about
[spacebar] A-POR and boom, it's highlighting the nearest match(es) for me to select?

III) There's an import for dwg in 'pro' mode sketchup but it can't handle text. Ugh. Every Window-label within a triangle is now just a little triangle. Go ahead and print me up a full copy of the CAD so that I can reference what should be in my imported file. Or, open Autocad in my second monitor and watch Autocad and Sketchup argue about where the cursor belongs. Honestly, it's 2018. 1998 is so... 1998.

In the interest of brevity, I'll stop now. ;-)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby juju » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:18 am

Well, so I renewed my maintenance without knowing what's coming / new, maintenance running out and all of that. I have faith in SketchUp, but to be honest, I have more faith in the many excellent extensions (and of course communities like this that keep me engaged).
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby david_h » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:56 pm

The one wish. . and it's just a little wish...that I have been asking for in SU since version 5th Century BC is the ability to edit a nested a component and only have the context of the next component in the tree hierarchy visible rather than the whole model. . .all or nothing. for example to edit a double hung window section-- to work on one frame in the context of the entire window component but not have the entire building model visible. Vous comprenez? or is there a Plugin that can do this ? Otherwise I take my component out of the model. Start a new model and re-insert. Irritating.

This would just be a great thing.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby andybot » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:11 pm

oooh, that's a good idea! I wonder if there could be an isolation mode like in Blender?

david_h wrote:The one wish. . and it's just a little wish...that I have been asking for in SU since version 5th Century BC is the ability to edit a nested a component and only have the context of the next component in the tree hierarchy visible rather than the whole model. . .all or nothing. for example to edit a double hung window section-- to work on one frame in the context of the entire window component but not have the entire building model visible. Vous comprenez? or is there a Plugin that can do this ? Otherwise I take my component out of the model. Start a new model and re-insert. Irritating.

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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby ntxdave » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:02 pm

Anyone else get a Cyber Monday promotional email about Sketchup?

Two things interesting:
  • I already have a 2018 Pro license and have already paid the annual maintenance fee. Why did I get the email.
  • Seems to be a message that 2019 may not be coming out all that soon (otherwise why a promotion for 2018)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby juju » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:41 pm

ntxdave wrote:Anyone else get a Cyber Monday promotional email about Sketchup?

Two things interesting:
  • I already have a 2018 Pro license and have already paid the annual maintenance fee. Why did I get the email.
  • Seems to be a message that 2019 may not be coming out all that soon (otherwise why a promotion for 2018)

Nope, I got one from sketchUcation (amongst others) though, but it's not the same thing...
  • I paid the annual maintenance fee as in yesterday, I will be less than impressed if it were the case.
  • Also consider the very recent maintenance release on 2018 Pro for OSX, things are getting stranger by the day.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Pistol_Peto » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:13 pm

ntxdave wrote:Anyone else get a Cyber Monday promotional email about Sketchup?

Two things interesting:
  • I already have a 2018 Pro license and have already paid the annual maintenance fee. Why did I get the email.
  • Seems to be a message that 2019 may not be coming out all that soon (otherwise why a promotion for 2018)


I did receive one and had the same thoughts. I'll be pretty disappointed is Sketchup 2019 doesn't come out soon.

I'm putting off some hardware purchases until it comes out.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby ntxdave » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:16 am

Interesting, I received a second email this evening. :o

Now to see what happens going forward!
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby juju » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:04 am

ntxdave wrote:Interesting, I received a second email this evening. :o

Now to see what happens going forward!

I'll bite, what does it say? (screenshots or it didn't happen :-P )
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby kaas » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:06 am

I always found it a bit strange for software updates v20XX to be released a few months before 20XX. Maybe this year, v2019 will actually come in or just before 2019?
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby ntxdave » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:59 pm

juju wrote:
ntxdave wrote:Interesting, I received a second email this evening. :o

Now to see what happens going forward!

I'll bite, what does it say? (screenshots or it didn't happen :-P )

I will try to send a screenshot a little later (have to go to a different computer instead of my iPad). It, again, is about their Cyber Monday promotion at $499 for 2018 Pro. Interestingly I did not se any mention of an upgrade to 2019.

OK, here is the email I got yesterday.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby juju » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:56 am

Aaah, so only for new licences then. I hope they give their current licence holders some thought...
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Derek Edison » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:36 pm

juju wrote:How close / accurate should one expect annual releases to be to the definition of annual, ie. how much "grace" would be reasonable? Asking for a friend... :-P


Tell your friend 30 days. That's the grace period for letting your maintenance lapse ;)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby RodolfoST » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:01 pm

david_h wrote:The one wish. . and it's just a little wish...that I have been asking for in SU since version 5th Century BC is the ability to edit a nested a component and only have the context of the next component in the tree hierarchy visible rather than the whole model. . .all or nothing. for example to edit a double hung window section-- to work on one frame in the context of the entire window component but not have the entire building model visible. Vous comprenez? or is there a Plugin that can do this ? Otherwise I take my component out of the model. Start a new model and re-insert. Irritating.

This would just be a great thing.


You can create a shortcut to the "hide the rest of the model" command. I put this in the "J". When I edit a component or block, only it is visible.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby andybot » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:53 pm

RodolfoST wrote:You can create a shortcut to the "hide the rest of the model" command. I put this in the "J". When I edit a component or block, only it is visible.


Read his request again. Consider what happens if you are, in his example, editing a sash within a window frame. If you "hide rest of model" you are also hiding the window frame object outside of the piece you are editing.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby pbacot » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:37 pm

For most cases, just making a copy of the parent component, somewhat removed works OK, no need to export, but I know what you mean, that would be a great help. (And I also agree, having the hot key set for "hide rest of model" is essential.)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby ntxdave » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:19 am

Is it time to start thinking Merry Christmas, Happy New year or even Happy Easter? ;)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Sekta » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:46 am

Sketchup has become the cornerstone of my business, I use it for everything from quick mass studies, to concept design to full construction docs for projects ranging from small housing to large industrial projects. I have invested huge amounts of time in this product to enable me to do this, I hope Trimble understand this and will stand by us full time users whose livlihood depend on it.

The 2018 update for me was great especially the ability to do scaled drawings in layout. I just hope this next update... whenever it is... will give us the ability to control line weights for layers and / or components instead of applying a raster style.

I am feeling a tad nervous about the silence on a possible release date given my investment in this product I think at the very least we should be kept up to date on whats happening.

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