[Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby irwanwr » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:48 pm

hi dex,

i'd really like to see this plugin well developed soon :thumb:
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby brewsky » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:28 pm

Hi D_e_x,

I accidentally placed my post about my bim-tools plugin in the wrong thread. I wanted to place it in the thread about general BIM discussion.
I moved it:
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=37979&p=378696#p378696

Sorry!

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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby d_e_x » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:44 am

Folks, our team has started working on the next version of the software. As a lot of you have requested for Metric Units - "Units" is currently the focus of our development.

In order to keep things simple, Units in SketchUpBIM shall work exactly like all other elements in SketchUp (like Line Tool and Rectangle Tool). If no units are entered, SketchUpBIM tools shall assume default SketchUp model units. However, if input values are entered with units, the entered units shall over-ride default units.

SketchUpBIM units shall be a natural fit into SketchUp, and obviously shall allow both Imperial and Metric conventions.

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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby utiler » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:12 am

Thats fantastic, dex!!!! Can't wait to have a try!!!!

The work of you and your team has been quite remarkable and is truly :bounce: appreciated!
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby fionmacool » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:05 pm

Looking forward to the metric version!
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby bigstick » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:20 pm

_1 to that, it's the only thing that stops me from using it.

Keep up the good work guys, I would be prepared to pay for this if it worked well. :)
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby miguelgba » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:29 am

Hi! My english isn't cool, but. I have to tell how I Liked this plugin, but if this plugin have the option to "draw the walls" for the right or left of the grid lines, it would be great!
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby d_e_x » Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:27 pm

All,

The development of the next version of the SketchUpBIM software is complete. We are currently in the final phase of our beta tests. Version 1.5 (with Metric Units!!) is expected to be rolled out within the next few days!

Click here for a sneak-peak of the new features: http://www.sketchupbim.com/sneakpeak.html
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby Pixero » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:35 pm

Looks very interesting.
The current version has a feature/bug that sets the SU view to isometric.
Please let us work in perspective mode if we wish.
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby bigstick » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:28 pm

Good call +1 for this!
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby d_e_x » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:48 am

Pixero wrote:Looks very interesting.
The current version has a feature/bug that sets the SU view to isometric.
Please let us work in perspective mode if we wish.


bigstick wrote:Good call +1 for this!


Pixero, Bigstick, Thanks for pointing this out. The isometric projection was actually set purposely to mimic other structural and architectural engineering applications. However, I do see the importance of leaving this choice to the user.

The only sad part is that we are a touch too late! We froze our source code a week back, and unfortunately, this one line bug-fix cannot be added in this upcoming release. I've added to this to our product roadmap, and will be fixed in the next release. At this time, the suggested approach is to perform the additional step of switching to "perspective" view under the "Camera" menu, after you switch SketchUpBIM layers.
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby bigstick » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:33 pm

Damn - never mind, worth a try! Looking forward to testing the metric version.
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby d_e_x » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:46 pm

SketchUpBIM 1.5 is Now Available!

The new version of SketchUpBIM provides support for both Imperial and Metric Units. It includes the ability to render materials for SketchUpBIM elements. Several other enhancements include multiple beam creation using the drag and drop functionality and the addition of menu items for SketchUpBIM operations.

SketchUpBIM 1.5 can be downloaded at http://www.sketchupbim.com/Product.html


now with the support for units, the entire world should be able to use it :)
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby utiler » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:05 pm

Cool!!! I can't wait to get to work in the morning to give it a run!!!!

Congratulations to you and all your team, dex!!!
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby Burkhard » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:38 pm

There is a conflict with this Plugin and those who use Maxwell with the Materials from Jason Maranto.
These Materials are RAL Libraries with attributes linked to Maxwell mxm. If you apply a Material Sketchup crashes imidiately.
This happens also with SuPodium and Driving Dimension from Ledas. Took a while to find out whats going wrong here.
If you need a reference Material I posted one here:
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=43138

Tested it with the new 1.5 also
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby utiler » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:52 pm

dex, it might be an idea to upload the latest releaes to the first post here otherwise you'll have people contiually asking where to D/L the latest version seeing your announcement about the release will be lost in the thread soon enough.... happens all the time!!
If you want people to D/L straight from your website then maybe just remove the ZIP file from the first post and provide a link to your site....


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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby bigstick » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:07 pm

No problem with Podium and SketchUp BIM - at least as far as I can see.

Metric version works okay so far.

There are some glitches, but I have some suggestions for next version:-

1. Fix font in dialogs. Ideally this ought to match the standard SU dialogs. Courier is ugly and big ;)
2. Add configuration options for beam sizes & profiles. Right click for properties?
3. Add customisation options for materials. Ability to choose from existing materials would be cool - allows these models to be rendered without (re)applying all materials.
4. Add ability to draw in perspective view. One of the nicer things about SU is the ability to do everything in 3d!
5. Creation of slabs doesn't seem to be working properly, and doesn't snap to intersections of geometry. It only snaps to intersections of SU_BIM elements, and not always consistently. Sometimes it will snap to the intersections at the centreline of joints, other times to the outer edges.
6. Clean joints at wall corner intersections. At the moment these overlap at each end of the intersection. This will probably cause problems with overlapping textures when rendered.
7. Place elevation grid(s) on own layer

Great start though, this is coming along nicely - thanks for all your hard work!
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby d_e_x » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:21 pm

wow! Thanks Bigstick for the list of suggestions and improvements. Most of them seem achievable. I might come back to you and ask for detailed explanations when we actually sit down and start doing them. For now, I've added these to our product roadmap.

others, please feel free to pump in your suggestions. The primary goal of SketchUpBIM is to listen to the industry, and create a product that is simple, and helpful to our industry :)
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby bigstick » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:06 pm

No problem at all, I'm very happy to help, and will even spend some time to test stuff if you wish :)
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby bigstick » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:49 pm

There is also a problem with this plugin in that it inserts your materials into every model. This is not a good thing because it means that unless the model is purged, it will be larger than it needs to be. In the past I have had problems when components or textures are inserted into every model by default.
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby utiler » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:43 am

dex, when I open SU after loading SketchUpBIM 1.5 the units are still imperial..... how do I change them to metric?
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby d_e_x » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:07 pm

utiler wrote:dex, when I open SU after loading SketchUpBIM 1.5 the units are still imperial..... how do I change them to metric?


Utiler, You can enter units along with input values. The default values are the same as those selected on the SketchUp File Template.

In the below example, the units are in 'feet'. However, the same input can be done as "5@200mm" or "5@0.2m" or "5@20cm" if you need to use metric units.

SketchUpBIM_Units_01.png


If the entire file should use metric, then simply, use the Metric Template while creating the SketchUp file, and SketchUpBIM will automatically switch all its input values to metric units.

SketchUpBIM_Units_02.png


Also watch the Advanced Tutorial at http://www.sketchupbim.com/tutorials.html to understand the implementation and usage of Units.
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby Pixero » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:29 pm

I've found that if I click on "layer 0", even when I'm not using the tools, the view is set to isometric.
Not good. :(
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby d_e_x » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:55 pm

Pixero wrote:I've found that if I click on "layer 0", even when I'm not using the tools, the view is set to isometric.
Not good. :(


pixero, another user has already pointed this out. We will modify the behavior of SketchUpBIM to preserve the original settings of SketchUp. If the user has set his view style to "perspective", it shall be preserved while switching layers that contain SketchUpBIM elements.

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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby utiler » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:53 am

Thanks dex, I thought if units were set in the default file the input values should 'default to those units rather than having to add the units string each time... is this possible for future releases?

great work by the way!!
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby d_e_x » Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:03 pm

utiler wrote:Thanks dex, I thought if units were set in the default file the input values should 'default to those units rather than having to add the units string each time... is this possible for future releases?

great work by the way!!


If no units are entered on the Input Dialog boxes, then SketchUpBIM will default to the pre-set units. Hence, it is not required to explicitly enter units if you want to use the same units as those set on the file template.

thanks Andrew for all your good words! It provides our team with a lot of encouragement :)
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby fionmacool » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:15 pm

I love the idea of this plugin- It's really great and I have been waiting for someone to produce something like this for a long time. I know I should be learning how to program SketchUp myself but I haven't had the time.

I recommend uninstalling the previous version of sketchupbim before installing. I had problems first time I installed the new v1.5

This is looking really good!

I wonder if anyone had thoughts about the comparison between this plugin and Revit. Here is a document I created ages ago on the topic. http://bit.ly/c6BWnE

Probably needs some updating now. Your suggestions are most welcome.
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby d_e_x » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:05 pm

Advanced Tutorial for SketchUpBIM 1.5.

The implementation and usage of UNITS in SketchUpBIM is discussed in the first 3 minutes of the Tutorial.

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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby SUFractal » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:35 pm

ATTENTION!!!!!!!

I've discovered a problem with this plugin/tool.

It conflicts with TIG's 'SectionCutFace' and Chuck Vali's Instant Roof plugins. And perhaps others as well, that I am not aware of.

Anyone else discovering any issues with it?
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Re: [Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

Postby thomthom » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:41 pm

SUFractal wrote:ATTENTION!!!!!!!

I've discovered a problem with this plugin/tool.

It conflicts with TIG's 'SectionCutFace' and Chuck Vali's Instant Roof plugins. And perhaps others as well, that I am not aware of.

Anyone else discovering any issues with it?


Can you describe what the conflict is? When reporting problems it is more useful the more information you give.
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