Designing Wine Cellars

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Designing Wine Cellars

Postby Ron - CellarMaker » Tue May 12, 2009 4:25 pm

I am a newbie to Sketchup. I have a custom woodworking shop, and we specialize in designing and building wine cellars among other things. I was wondering if anyone has designed any wine cellars in SketchUp and could give me some advice, or point me to some models that may exist. I am really interested in using this program as much as possible. Still a lot to learn!!

Thanks,

Ron Porter - CellarMaker
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Re: Designing Wine Cellars

Postby Gaieus » Tue May 12, 2009 4:34 pm

Hi Ron and welcome!

I had a look at your website (nice one, indeed) since I come from a wine region myself.

You say you are (or rather have been so far) mainly a woodworker (I see you have already "signed up" for that forum). Beside making custom wine cellar "furniture", what else would be special for wine cellars (I guess in this case it's not you who builds the cellar itself)? Or actually what makes woodworking for wine cellars special?
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Re: Designing Wine Cellars

Postby bubbalove » Tue May 12, 2009 4:36 pm

Make sure that you use components for things that repeat a lot!
If you'll go to the 3d warehouse there are some models there you could take a look at.

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/

Here's one...

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... revstart=0

and another...

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... revstart=0
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Re: Designing Wine Cellars

Postby boofredlay » Tue May 12, 2009 5:32 pm

Stick around Ron and you will get some great help here.

My advice is start on something simple, post it up and ask for comments. We would be glad to steer you down the right vine. :D
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Re: Designing Wine Cellars

Postby gasher » Tue May 12, 2009 8:56 pm

Hi Ron,

I am interested in seeing your models as you continue to learn. There are some very helpful folks here.

I am sure you will be publishing some vintage models soon!
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Re: Designing Wine Cellars

Postby mateo soletic » Tue May 12, 2009 9:18 pm

Hi Ron,
Welcome to the forum.
I have some custom made materials I collected for that sort
of thing. There are some more somewhere on my hard disk.
If its any use to you ill have a look and find for some more.
Hope they can be of some use to you.
Cheers,
Mateo.
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Re: Designing Wine Cellars

Postby Ron - CellarMaker » Wed May 13, 2009 12:58 pm

Wow! Thanks for the quick response from all of you. I spent half the day yesterday looking at several tutorials. It looks like quite a learning curve, but I think I will get it.

We do some quite large wine cellars, and they can have literally thousands of parts, so you can imagine my need to figure out the most expedient way of drawing this. My other software does very well in rendering an approximation in 3D, but it is not completely accurate as to the dimensioning. Sketchup looks like it will solve that problem.

Mateo, I loved your renderings. I did a bar and wine display very similar to your lower one in the Atlanta Airport last year. Very nice job. If I can ever get close to that kind of professional level drawing I will be very happy.

I hope I don't wear you folks out with too many questions (but I just might!!) :D

One thing I have already noticed on some sample drawings I tried yesterday is this - I drew 2 vertical boards and placed a horizontal 3/4 x 3/4 piece on them (as you would on a wine rack). When I moved/copied the piece, it was hollow. When I copied that piece to the other side of the rack,one entire side of the horozontal piece was missing. Any suggestions?

Thanks for any help you might offer.

Ron Porter
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Re: Designing Wine Cellars

Postby Ron - CellarMaker » Wed May 13, 2009 1:23 pm

Coen,
Sorry about that. I'll have to learn all the rules here. Thanks for the heads up. I'll limit my further questions to the woodworkers forum.

Gaieus,
Wine cellars can have hundreds if not thousands of parts. And yes, sometimes I also build the room or building that houses the cellar. There are a number of different design elements that are typical in a cellar, for example, both large and small diamond bins, high reveal displays (where the bottles are layed on an angle so you can read the labels, and of course single bottle racking. The interior corners of a racking system can be curved, there can be ladders involved if it is very high. There is almost no end to all the design features that can be involved in a good cellar. I am soon going to be designing a large (10,000 bottle) cellar that will be housed in a round building. There will be an exterior corridor around the perimiter of this building that will feel like a circular hallway with racking on both sides of it from floor to ceiling. Lots of curves, very tall, with ladders, and a mix of racking/storage design!! Help!!

As you can see, I need to master this software, as my designs can be complicated. I'll stick to the woodworking forum so as to not cause any problems. But if you have any suggestions (or answers, as I will will no doubt have tons of questions) please check over there. Any input you have will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to you both for your response.

Ron Porter
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Re: Designing Wine Cellars

Postby Gaieus » Wed May 13, 2009 1:37 pm

Ron - CellarMaker wrote:Coen,
Sorry about that. I'll have to learn all the rules here. Thanks for the heads up. I'll limit my further questions to the woodworkers forum.

No problem,I have "merged" the two posts. ;)

Ron - CellarMaker wrote:I'll stick to the woodworking forum so as to not cause any problems. But if you have any suggestions (or answers, as I will will no doubt have tons of questions) please check over there. Any input you have will be greatly appreciated.

I also regularly visit this forum but I'm sure the folks here will answer all your questions properly. :thumb:
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