The Art of SketchUp - part 2: Sci-Fi

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Postby CoreMaster110 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:52 pm

Awesome :D :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby liam887 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:14 pm

Well I just got back from London late last night and have picked up more work while I was down there with only seven days before my deadline :-( so no chance of free time to make a ship in time for the 13th deadline.
Im glad I told you about this, I think you can win you have the best entry I have seen so far and your flying the banner for all the sketchup users!
As for the render and crashing try deleting everything not in the camera shot to take the size down thats what I have done in the past for some larger models!
Looks great good luck ill be following the judging and results over on the eve competition website.
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby ken28875 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:00 am

@ Roberto/Artysmedia: You're welcome. Anytime.

@ solidseal: honestly, I wasn't sure what to do about that second ship. I wanted to do something more interesting in shape and less symetrical. It is part of the main ship or it could be an escape ship.

dolphus wrote:Ken it was obvious when you posted the first views of the ship that this was going to be special....well you did not disappoint.....it is magnificent....a benchmark ...very well done... :thumb: ......next???????


@ Dolphus: Thank you , Sir. What's next? Well, I still have to finish the starship. I will probably go back to finishing the fantasy interior renders after the EVE contest.
Thanks for the explanation of the "Worm thing". Very nice stuff.

liam887 wrote:Well I just got back from London late last night and have picked up more work while I was down there with only seven days before my deadline :-( so no chance of free time to make a ship in time for the 13th deadline.
Im glad I told you about this, I think you can win you have the best entry I have seen so far and your flying the banner for all the sketchup users!
As for the render and crashing try deleting everything not in the camera shot to take the size down thats what I have done in the past for some larger models!
Looks great good luck ill be following the judging and results over on the eve competition website.


@ Liam: Thanks for your kind words and support. Hopefully, I will get one of the first 3 prizes. Sorry to hear that you will not be able to submit something. Yes, I thought about deleting things outside the camera for faster render, but this model is huge and it might be time consuming since I have many views.

By the way, pretty nice solar explorer. :thumb: Can't wait to see some renders and more close-up details. Oh, you might want to change "Exolorer" to "Explorer". Actually "Solar Exolorer" is an interesting name though. ;)

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So the starship is pretty much done. I have to do some b/w renders and the presentation for submission. Hopefully everything should be done by monday. Then I can go sleep and hibernate for a week. ;)

Thanks for viewing.

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby d12dozr » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:19 am

Excellent work, Ken...the level of detail is amazing.

Some of the small details are lost in the line overlay, if you want to make the lines finer you can export from SU at double the final resolution and re-size down afterward...just a thought, use it or toss it :)
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Postby michaliszissiou » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:16 pm

Great once again :thumb: . Heavy outline ruin the beauty of your model. IMO
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Postby liam887 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:56 pm

Yeah I didn't notice the spelling mistakes thanks for pointing it out, good job its still a WIP!
How big is the file in SU for this contest model, I would like to paint it up one day in photoshop if you would let me although not any time soon I have too much work on in real life and University, still disappointed I could not enter but im glad you will get one of the top three with an awesome sketchup model.

You know if you win they will put this in the game how awesome would that be!
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby ken28875 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:18 am

@ Marcus and Michalis: Thanks for your feedback. Yes, the plan was to have the lines thinner so you can see the details.

@ Liam: I would not mind to give the file to you if you want to do a paintover. But it is huge...something like 40 MB. For those who love numbers, the model has over 100 components and it has almost 2 millions polygons.

All right, I finally finished it. It took me 3 weeks, working a few hours each night. I am like a zombie now, but I think these sleepless nights were worth it.

Here is the final submission:



You can see the DeviantArt submission here:

http://browse.deviantart.com/contests/2010/eveonline/#/d30la31

What's next? I will go back to finish my 2 fantasy interiors that I was working on.

I hope you had enjoyed following this thread of the WIP of the Starship as much as I enjoyed working on it. I really appreciate everyone kind comments and support.

Thank you and have a good night (I will be sleeping for the next few days... ;) )

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby shura » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:38 am

MASSIVE!
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Postby liam887 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:34 am

Yeah thanks it has great lines to will be easier to paint and dont worry 40MB is ok but wont get round to it for a while im really busy with work and university.

amazing!
Be careful tho im sure the rules stated 6 line drawings and then an optional 'single' piece of concept work that can be rendered painted etc. You sure you can have that many images on the submission?
Anyway good luck thats a sure winner or top three it has to be if not I cant wait to see what the other entries were!!!! :o
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby ken28875 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:55 pm

@ Shura: haha, that's the idea. Thank you. :-)

@ Liam: Yes, I did carefully read the rules and was wondering how to break them without being disqualified. Rules are made to be broken, right? I browse all the other entries and most of them (the best ones) somehow broke the rules. Technically, we added more to the submission. Anyway, I think the most important parts are the 6 views as the colored render is optional. I believe this contest is not about who can have the best render but who can give them what they need to build a starship, which is the schematic line drawing . People at CCP have their own textures and set of colors for each race already. So this is my strategy, if I give them the best line drawing with details in real and accurate dimensions, I will have more chance to get a prize.

My other plan is actually to sell them the model if I win. They want the line drawing to build their model. But why do it when they can actually have the real model. I am guessing, it will take more than 3 weeks (working 4-5 hours a day) for a Maya or Max user to build this kind of detailed model. So they will save time and money if they buy mine. It's a win-win situation. ;)

So I may not be able to give you the model, if assuming I win and they want to buy my model. Will see.

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby Solidseal » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:21 pm

Very nice.
You are allready a winner. However, there are a few in the contest that have very very impressive ships.

Good luck

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby Ghalko » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:13 pm

Just an idea for the contest: I play a bit of Eve, so "Typhon" is awfully close to "Typhoon" a ship in an enemy faction. You might not want to actually name the ship, allowing CCP to do that as they have naming schemes.

I was thinking of submitting with an Angel faction ship (seen by unknown pilots and only recently confirmed as a background story.) But I am no where even close to as good, my ideas might be good, but can't get them to form very well. Only recently picked up plug-ins.

I wish you the best, though I will probably be shooting at yours rather than flying it. :twisted: Though it looks like it could certainly put a dent in anything it comes across. :shock:
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Postby dolphus » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:54 am

Holding thumbs for you Ken....you ARE a winner..the best!!! Good luck
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Postby teofas » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:42 am

wheres the bow icon!!!! i cant find it!!!! :?: hehe well you know what i think of your work, an inspiration brother!!
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby ken28875 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:54 am

@ Solidseal: Thanks for your kind words. Yes, there are many great submissions. It will be a tough decision for the judges.

@ Ghalko: Thanks for the feedback. I am not an Eve player and did not know much about the Eve universe till this contest. I just checked, and you were right, there is ship named Typhoon. Oh well...it's not a big deal...they can always rename my ship. LOL ;)

@ Thank you for you support, Mr. Cochrane.

@ Thank you for your nice comment, Teo. I am glad my sketchup models are an inspiration to you. Your Vray renders really inspire me to learn and improve my Vray skills.

Have a nice day!

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby liam887 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:36 am

epic, my work is in today so ill celebrate not having time to enter the competition by making one for fun anyway, wish me luck!
looks great by the way, you far exceeded my expectations on this job!
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby ken28875 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:44 pm

liam887 wrote:epic, my work is in today so ill celebrate not having time to enter the competition by making one for fun anyway, wish me luck!
looks great by the way, you far exceeded my expectations on this job!


Hi Liam,

Thanks for your kind words. Honestly, I wasn't sure where I was going and how the model would end up looking like. I just kept on working, adding details and figuring out at the same time how to model some parts of the starship. It's kind of a trial and error since it is the first time I did such a big detailed model.

Glad to hear you did finish yours. Which one was it by the way? Could you please send me the link?

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby ken28875 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:47 pm

Sharing some old student projects.

Modelled in Sketchup and exported into Studio Max for texturing and rendering.

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby numbthumb » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:03 pm

Wow...Stuff like this makes me feel totally incompetent. Congratulations, Ken! :thumb:
BTW whats´ wrong with the girl´s leg? :)
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby liam887 » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:29 am

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liam887 wrote:epic, my work is in today so ill celebrate not having time to enter the competition by making one for fun anyway, wish me luck!
looks great by the way, you far exceeded my expectations on this job!


Hi Liam,

Thanks for your kind words. Honestly, I wasn't sure where I was going and how the model would end up looking like. I just kept on working, adding details and figuring out at the same time how to model some parts of the starship. It's kind of a trial and error since it is the first time I did such a big detailed model.

Glad to hear you did finish yours. Which one was it by the way? Could you please send me the link?

Best,

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ahh no you misheard I never submitted but im going to make one anyway just for fun as I have more free time now and no looming deadlines :D I just posted some pre-lim work but its subject to change. I think I want the ship vertical orientated and change the whole design but still keeping some of the core components I have still modeled.
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby ken28875 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:18 pm

EVE Online Contest

The 15 finalists were chosen and I am quite disappointed with the judging. :x

I did not even get in! :cry: :cry:

Lots of people commented and disagreed with the chosen ones.

You can see them here:

http://news.deviantart.com/article/133308/

Oh, well...it was not a waste of time for me as it was quite a great experience working on my starship and improving my Sketchup modeling skills.

Thanks for all your kind comments and support during the 3 weeks I was working on the Starship.

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby dolphus » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:05 am

Ken I had a look at the other entrants and I must say I am astounded that your ship was not included, one can only wonder what the "judges" are smoking, in my opinion I would have been disappointed if you were not voted No 1, you been robbed...... :evil:
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby ken28875 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:51 am

Hey there,

Here's a personal project I did a couple of years ago.

Buildings and cars are modeled in Sketchup and the rest as well as the final render was done in Photoshop.

Have a great one,

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby michaliszissiou » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:40 pm

So the creature is a 2d painting?
Well done, you need a sculpture app Ken. :thumb: Its time to involved with this.
I could work some more on shadows, a hard-light overlay of a wall-plaster-painted tex could do the GI trick.
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby orgelf » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:28 pm

the Giant Spaceship is clearly a Masterpiece :berserk:

incredible !!

thanks for posting :thumb:
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby Ghalko » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:03 am

So about that awesome spaceship:

Another chance has come up, very similar rules but this time all Eve community feedback. http://www.evecontest.com/finalvote/

I might try but a 3 week window is really too small for someone with many ideas but no solid spaceship experience such as myself. Hope you resubmit, it would get my vote. :)

Let me know if I should post a separate thread or something.
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby ken28875 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:38 am

michaliszissiou wrote:So the creature is a 2d painting?
Well done, you need a sculpture app Ken. :thumb: Its time to involved with this.
I could work some more on shadows, a hard-light overlay of a wall-plaster-painted tex could do the GI trick.


@ Michalis: Yes, the creature is 2D painted in Photoshop. I have Z-brush on my computer but never had the time to practice. It is certainly on my list to do (or should I say to learn). You mentioned about 3D Coat. I will take a look. Thanks!


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orgelf wrote:the Giant Spaceship is clearly a Masterpiece :berserk:
incredible !!
thanks for posting :thumb:


@ Orgelf: Merci beaucoup. Glad you like it. :berserk:

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Ghalko wrote:So about that awesome spaceship:

Another chance has come up, very similar rules but this time all Eve community feedback. http://www.evecontest.com/finalvote/

I might try but a 3 week window is really too small for someone with many ideas but no solid spaceship experience such as myself. Hope you resubmit, it would get my vote. :)

Let me know if I should post a separate thread or something.


@ Ghalko: Wow, that is pretty cool. Thanks for the notice. How did you hear about it? I will certainly submit my starship again. Thanks for you vote. :thumb:

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To Liam: Are you there? If you are reading this, you now have a chance to enter. But I guess you might be busy with school lately. I have not seen you in the forum for a while. Anyway, hope all is well and that you will be able to enter the contest.

Have a great day everyone! :enlight:

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby Ghalko » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:11 pm

I heard about it because I play the game. It would be nice to see some more ships out there.

There are some NPC corporations or factions that don't have any ships to their credit. Sisters of Eve (careful with any web searches) is a humanitarian faction that does rescues and relief efforts, but it really doesn't have any of its own ships. Something along the lines of white ships with red (like the red cross) decals. The ship(s) wouldn't have to be quite as complex as your awesome one so they might not take as long.

One thing I noticed is that even though the rules are similar it definitely sounds like the 6 views plus the one colored (hopefully rendered) one is all they want. Also it is a bit more of how the ship would fit into the game so that whole Sisters of Eve thing might not be a good way to go. So if you want ideas just let me know. ;)
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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby ken28875 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:42 am

@ Bryan/Ghalko: Please check your private message and get back to me when you have time.

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Hi guys,

ASGVIS/V-Ray for Sketchup just had a Featured Artist article about me.

You can read it here:
http://software.asgvis.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=886&Itemid=466&utm_source=Publicaster&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Winning%20Subject&utm_term=Read%20more%20about%20Ken%20Nguyen

There are a couple images that were mainly done for the interview and not posted anywhere else. Here's one of them:


I have been working on a few more but did not have time to finish them. I will post them later.

Thanks for stopping by and have a great day! :)

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Re: The Art of sketchup - part 2: Sci-Fi

Postby SketchUpNoobie » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:14 pm

:shock: Looking at all the pictures of that ship actually made me feel a bit nauseous. The fact that you didn't even get in the top 15 made me even more sick. And this made it in before you? That's just wrong.

"Wow" doesn't do your models justice. :thumb: I was going to maybe post my sci-fi temple, but now? :lol: Excellent work!!! :ecstatic:
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