The A show (post your Thea images)

Re: The A show

Postby Ultimatez 32 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:05 pm

Hey solo maybe you can make this thread 'Post your thea render renders' or something like that. It'll be great! Anyways majid, great renders so far! I especially like that studio one.

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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby solo » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:14 pm

Done...
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby timmy16744 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:59 am

i've been trying to get a good skin material, havent quite got it yet but here is a render of a girl i did quickly in thea, well not quickly...i let it run over night so it ran for 10 hours (about 500 passes on my mbp) :)
solo, or anyone else who uses thea, have you been able to create a realistic skin material. if so would you be able to post it? thanks
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby majid » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:55 pm

it seems nice :thumb: , but in my sight a bit too shiny :roll: . guessing that the real skin is not only a color , but also it has textures ,part to part, and sketchup is not good app for those sort of texturing. you may do the texturing ussing blender , max , etc... good tecturing definitely will improve the model (thers is a good tutorial on sketchupartists web site on blender-sketchup texturing ;) )
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby joppermann » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:57 am

real skin also has translucency. The material needs to have a few layers with the top one being more translucent. How you go about that I am not entirely sure. I do know that is how CGI animators do it however. So perhaps try doing alittle research on that and see if you can get anyideas.

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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby gistman » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:11 am

Sorry to jack the thread-

@timmy16744- have a look for at this: http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_humanhead_home.html and, http://developer.nvidia.com/object/doc_ ... .html#skin

It's all about the sum-of-Guassians formulation of subsurface scattering within a multi-layered skin model... ;-)

So Solo you seem sold on THEA? I just had a second and was amazed at your post... I'm going to a meeting and will be back later to check and read the entire thread... So far your images look ridiculously fantastical!
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby gistman » Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:31 am

WOW WOW WOW...

Majid- Really nice work. How do you feel about the ease of learning Thea now that you've seen it Kerky and Twilight?

"Thea render, biased method is used and it has been rendered at about 2 hour on my crappy machine " That's quite a rendering for 2 hours...

Solo- Haha, reading through your posts with the renderings seemed like a fantastic sales pitch...

"Thea biased render 4mins 31s"

"not forgetting the amazing solid exporter Tomasz created." <-- Which by the way is probably the most complex .rb ever written for SU Certainly the best thing literally since sliced bread, seriously. I dream of the say I can buy more than a few drinks... although at this point he's probably spent so much time developing the latest plugins he would probably prefer a little cash... Then a round of drinks!

"9 minutes 7 seconds, original size 1718x527, no post work"

" those buttons have strong kung-fu."

SOLD- Although the check out process is a little funny? I'm also getting more and more suspicious / paranoid about internet security... I thought I had read somewhere that it was threw paypal, but it doesn't say that (from what I could see) while on the "Cart" page.

I unfortunately have flubbed the whole process... I backed out of paypal when I realized I didn't add the SU2TH plugin - Woops.

Anyone have thoughts on THEA being sold as a package? Like- If you have SU and MAC buy this one... If you use Windows and SU buy this one... I sometimes pretend to not be as smart as I really am in order to test the UI on websites and software... :oops: ( which really means I blew it)

As far as I'm concerned, using the plug-ins is a must. I remember having to export an .obj from SU then load it to KT... Get the plug-in.

Be careful and make sure you have both the Thea Render License and the appropriate plug-in...

Hopefully I just didn't buy 14 copies...


Thank you guys for posting these great images- I'm looking forward to see more from you guys and maybe show a little of my own work.

It's been a good day- Hope everyone is doing well.


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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby majid » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:03 am

gistman wrote:...
Majid- Really nice work. How do you feel about the ease of learning Thea now that you've seen it Kerky and Twilight?
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in my sight it is now "integrated and clear" each thing has it's own place and after a while of playing you'd be familliar with it.while Kt 2008 was toooooo clear and easy to use comparing to previous version, BTW making right materials needs using "layering system" that is really confusing for a beginner, so then twilight has made it easy tto make the materials, placing lights... and also I like it bkz it's working inside the SU and so no need to have "export-merge" process as it is needed in such render engines as Thea , maxwell, kt... etc. now , "scene", "workspace","settings" are the main panels that each one "says" you what is it doing". then at each sub-panel you'll find related questions. also I was hoping to have some minor change (such as an optoion to see a larger version of material ball , as there is such option in Fry render, and not only ability to see the textures larger).
I am also noob at Thea, and so there are times that my changes in settings (I mean biased) causes undesired results. BTW I like the "clearness" and ease of Thea.
here are just some playing,(after wisiting a furniture exhibition) models are raw (Su+wings3D to subdvide). the balls about toke 6-7 min!!! (biased) but the tray scene about one hour to be cooked!!! and less noise (unbiased). I used unbiased bks was not sure about lighting and was interested to make some good caustics, so used the relight system after rendering to have it "clearly" (while I guess now I culd use the same settings in biased way :roll: )
also maybe we must be patient about the Thea , as it is a beta, and in it's starting steps :)
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby michaliszissiou » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:16 am

majid wrote:it seems nice :thumb: , but in my sight a bit too shiny :roll: . guessing that the real skin is not only a color , but also it has textures ,part to part, and sketchup is not good app for those sort of texturing. you may do the texturing ussing blender , max , etc... good tecturing definitely will improve the model (thers is a good tutorial on sketchupartists web site on blender-sketchup texturing ;) )

Cheers majid. :D
It looks like you already mastered thea, impressive renders, well done. :thumb:

About SubSurfaceScattering 'SSS': Its complicated and mostly is in use for realistic portraits - skin. A good tip here is to render a second layer (skin parts only) using a few warm area lights behind. Then PP the two layers. BTW nice model (the girl), excellent choice for an office environment. :lol:
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby teofas » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:31 pm

really amazing stuff going on in this treath my friend!! keep posting!
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby sepo » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:02 pm

"BTW nice model (the girl), excellent choice for an office environment."

I wonder what kind of office is that. :mrgreen:
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby michaliszissiou » Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:27 pm

My office. :mrgreen:
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby teofas » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:06 am

ohh you 2 dirty mind people...shes just going to the swimming pool :? hehe
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Re: The A show

Postby notareal » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:36 pm

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notareal wrote:@sepo and others with png alpha, updated the guide at SU2TH forum.



Thanks Notareal, I was able to get it working fine, but it sure is a lot of steps. I couldn't image trying to render one of my landscape designs and having to do that 50 or more times for all the plants I use. Hopefully Tomasz will get it to the point that the SU2TH exporter will do all of those steps automatically for every .png or .tif image with transparency.


In case someone missed latest update, Thea Studio build 350 has now a automatic clipmap from png aplha when png (with aplha) used as a diffuse texture.
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby majid » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:14 pm

it seems finally i could figur out , how displacement works
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby michaliszissiou » Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:14 pm

nice render majid. :thumb:
Displacement works much better with B&W 16 bit images. These images should look almost grey, no contrast at all, the middle grey tone is crucial its the neutral. 8 bit images tend to cause steps effects.
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby majid » Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:03 pm

it is a raw sketch of a wip (also after next two weeks, that i'll be away on a trip). however su is not good on curve texturing at all, it was a bit hard for me , but for the nest version, certainly will improve it, maybe adding more detail,...
here I was seeking a late sunset mood, so increased the overall contrast in Thea, no post pro.
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby michaliszissiou » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:23 pm

Nice renders majid,
"however su is not good on curve texturing at all, it was a bit hard for me , but for the next version, certainly will improve it, maybe adding more detail,..."
Don't be so sure... the whole SU concept is against this. Its about UV mapping. Except... well, have you heard about 'ptex'?
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby notareal » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:58 pm

Ptex sounds like a great concept, who knows if it will find a way to SU and wider... As the Ptex library is now available as open source under the BSD. Just dream... no more UV mapping troubles.
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby majid » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:11 am

Ptex sound great :berserk: as UVmapping for me is a nightmare still (so lazy to learn Max or Blender mapping, and generraly no need for an architec ;) )....
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby choppir » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:16 pm

very very very impressive!!!

For that price it's an amazing renderer!

Very good images mate.
Well done!

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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby solo » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:41 pm

I'm still amazed at the speed of the BSD engine, here is one similar to a series of integrated bathroom instalations that I'm getting done for a catalogue, this is half the size of original (resized for posting) as they need to be 300dpi for print.
This render took 1 minute 49 seconds, unbelievable.

I'd like to show the actual renders and designs but I'm bound by an NDA for the moment, but as soon as it goes live I'll link it to this post. (modelled with Sketchup)

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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby david_h » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:46 pm

Wow Pete! That is one cool lookin' coffee pot. Could be a little messy tho' with half the side missing. Still it is a great render.
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby solo » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:48 pm

Another render I did the other day, just playing around with a few materials and DOF.

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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby dermotcoll » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:49 pm

Coke and pumpkins - strange diet you have there Solo!!!

Great render by the way! :thumb:
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby solo » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:51 pm

Could be a little messy tho' with half the side missing. Still it is a great render.


LOl, I guess so, but this is not the actual product, this is one I tested with, it's missing lots of detail like the actual (name branded) fixtures and plumbing.
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby solo » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:53 pm

Coke and pumpkins - strange diet you have there Solo!!!


Pumpkins? :shock: :evil:

That's a cushion, see this one I did with a wooly material I created with the Thea material editor.

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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby david_h » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:00 pm

will you please just stop IT! You're makin' me feel bad about myself. . . :mrgreen:
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Re: The A show (post your Thea images)

Postby stefanq » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:04 pm

:o
OMG OMG OMG Pete...all the materials looks amazing! V-Ray seams "old" to me right now
Fantastic images, congrats!
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Postby d12dozr » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:42 pm

:shock: yeah, that cushion is perfectly amazing!! Good work as usual, Pete :thumb:
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