What is your favorite overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Artlantis
16
3%
Blender
5
1%
Fry Render
1
0%
iClone
0
No votes
IDX Renditioner
2
0%
Indigo
13
3%
Kerkythea
46
9%
Keyshot
11
2%
Light-Up
8
2%
Lumen RT
5
1%
Lumion
23
5%
LuxRender
1
0%
Maxwell
44
9%
Octane
7
1%
Piranesi
1
0%
Podium
24
5%
POV-Ray
1
0%
RenderIn
2
0%
ShaderLight
13
3%
Twilight
57
11%
Thea
68
14%
V-Ray
140
28%
Vue
10
2%
 
Total votes : 498

What is your favorite overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby valerostudio » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:07 pm

I kind of want to answer this once and for all. Now I know folks use more than one engine, but pick only one, the one you think is the absolute best. Taking into consideration render quality, render times, UI, ease of use, etc. Placed in alphabetical order as to not favor one over the other.
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby Rich O Brien » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:24 pm

A very valid poll...

where's TwiLight and ShaderLight? Or do you not rate them?
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby JD Hill » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:35 pm

Please don't take it wrong, but I generally think such polls are akin to: which is the best overall tool?

  • hammer
  • screwdriver
  • paint brush

By the way, do you think it's okay if I vote too? I was a Maxwell customer long before I was ever involved in its development. :)
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby boofredlay » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:36 pm

I don't see keyshot in there either.
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby tridem » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:50 pm

:? I currently use Kerkythea and Thea...it means I'm satisfied of them, but I never seriously tried most of render engines in this list, I tried some ones in the past and didn't like that time, but perhaps now I could...how can I say "this one" is the best?
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby Daniel » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:54 pm

Picking one software through a poll and calling it the best is too subjective. I think the best way to evaluate the various rendering softwares would be under different parameters. For instance, one rendering software might perform great for exterior renderings, but not so well for interior shots.
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:03 pm

I pick V-Ray solely for it's speed. (Once you know how to use it.) The speed it such a big factor for me that it makes up for the steep learning curve and currently standing bugs and issues.
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby jason_maranto » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:15 pm

I voted for Maxwell -- but I think that maybe it is forgotten sometimes that SketchUp itself contains quite a nice NPR render engine in and of itself (or combined with Layout).

It might be better to classify the different types of render engines since I find equally valid uses for both Photorealistic (Maxwell) and NPR (SketchUp/Layout).

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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby pilou » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:00 pm

Octave = Octane ?
where's TwiLight and ShaderLight? :o

and something like Cycles inside Blender ?
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby CadFather » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:38 pm

well, there's 'octave'... :lol:
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby Rich O Brien » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:48 pm

I've edited the poll to add the missing apps mentioned. It means re-voting but since the OP is not replying I didn't want the discussion to be about what's missing :?

As Vic reeves once said....

"88.2% of Statistics are made up on the spot"


So get voting :shock:
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby andybot » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:02 pm

vote early, vote often! :lol:

edit: just for the record, I think this is a flawed idea as others have said, and I'm sure will say. Interesting popularity contest though.
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Re: What is the best overall rendering engine for SketchUp?

Postby unigami » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:41 pm

How can anyone vote on this unless they have tried them all and compared them? Furthermore, how do you define "Best Overall"? There are so many factors to that; price, speed, flexibility, SU integration, support, etc. etc, and what is important to me, being a hobbyist, is certainly different than the needs of someone rendering for a living. I just don't think it is a valid poll...
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby pilou » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:46 pm

Blender but for a special reason :)
I have a very old computer so speed render is like as *25 with Blender if I make the same directly with something like Podium or Twillight inside Sketchup even at very low level ! ;)
7 seconds against 3 minutes ;)
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby irwanwr » Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:20 pm

wow, even Kerkythea can compete with paid version render apps :D
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby Marian » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:26 pm

I don't see Simlab Composer in there. :D

I guess the answer to your question depends heavily on people's needs, ability and budget. For me Simlab is very good right now, but I may also buy Thea one day.
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby valerostudio » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:44 pm

My apologies for forgetting a few and stirring the pot. I guess I wanted to see which was more popular and not the 'best'. There is no best rendering engine. All have there own advantages and disadvantages. I guess I wanted to see where the bigger user base was and so far it seems Thea is the leader.
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby david_h » Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:30 pm

I can only vote for one, but I use Podium, Thea and twilight.

I suck at all 3. ;)
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby Krisidious » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:34 pm

Vue and Lumion will blow your mind... so fast, so easy such incredible results. movies and renderings. what is also out of site is the price for either one. but it will make you look and feel like a master.

this was done in lumion demo in like 15 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52SCu0h ... RknWY1XpdG
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby sonder » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:37 am

I've tried Kerkythea, V-ray and Podium. Of the three, my favorite by far has been Kerkythea. I am really glad to see Thea in the lead, as I am buying that shortly. Kind of makes sense I guess!
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby Pixero » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:22 am

I have Thea, Twilight, Vray and LightUp. (Twilight and Vray aren't used much though.)
I think Vray for SU in it's current state isn't quite working for me. No instancing/proxies possible, and the set up time is much longer than with Thea. I did some tests that seem to indicate that Theas Adaptive (BSD) is a little faster than Vray with comparative settings.
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby david_h » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:08 pm

I'm planning on buying all of them. I want to expand my suckiness horizons. :)
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby julyyen » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:35 pm

irwanwr wrote:wow, even Kerkythea can compete with paid version render apps :D

Yep,

I also vote for Kerkythea and I think this render engine with proper settings and a good illuminated hdri can beat big boys!
Any news about new improved version (maybe with IBL :roll:)?
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby jason_maranto » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:02 pm

Perhaps a more revealing poll would be something like this:

On a scale of 1 to 10 what are the most important factors for choosing an external Render Engine to you:


Not Important - Most Important
Price:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Ease of Use:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Speed:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Quality of Output:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Photo Realism:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Flexibility/Features:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

SketchUp Integration:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Documentation/Training/Support:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Industry Standard/Familiarity:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Peer Recommendations:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

And then add the poll we are using here but change to "What is your preferred render engine."

I think that would tell us alot more useful information than the current poll -- something like this can be set up on http://www.surveymonkey.com/ pretty easily.

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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby irwanwr » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:12 am

julyyen wrote:I also vote for Kerkythea and I think this render engine with proper settings and a good illuminated hdri can beat big boys!
Any news about new improved version (maybe with IBL :roll:)?

Well, actually i use Kerkythea only now. Dropped any other "free" with restriction shorted paid version renderers. Agree with that potential it has behind settings as I can see the difference between. Might even beat those paid ones. I'd go for Thea if I got the chance.
Haven't heard much about the new release yet. But the latest Boost (beta?) release really impressed me with the shortened time needed to render in most settings.
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby Zoom123 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:12 pm

IS Kerkythea actively developed? Last version seems to be from 2008.

From the ones I tried so far I like Twilight most, which uses the Kerkythea engine, but it also has not been updated for more than a year.
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby irwanwr » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:29 pm

Hi there Zoom,

As I already mention up there in the recent reply, there is a Kerkythea Boost.
The one you mentioned is the Kerkythea Echo 2008.
Kerkythea Boost is still under development currently. Haven't got any further info when should it be published as a final release. It works a bit faster than the Echo release, I think.

Perhaps you should try to get the info from the Kerkythea forum. That's where I got the Kerkythea Boost.
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby notareal » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:49 pm

@Zoom123, There will be a new Kerkythea release in some point. At the moment you can try a development version. It will offer some speed improvement, but as been a development version - there are some known issues (better read trough bug topics :)).
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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby allanx » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:44 am

Based on my experience with Render engines in Sketchup I prefer and use Maxwell Render, because it has the best integration right now and has fast results, alot of preset materials and can run in slow computer...and the UI is great!!!

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Re: What is your favorite overall rendering engine for Sketc

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:03 am

allanx wrote:fast results

I tried Maxwell when looking for a rendering solution - and my biggest problem was that it was so slow. And I found no way to speed it up. Has the engine gotten faster? Or did I miss something essential in terms of performance optimisation?

It's also why I haven't been using unbiased engines in general - as I've felt it's taken all too long to complete a render with good enough results.
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