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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Gaieus » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:00 am

Welcome JC and I'm looking forward to seeing your posts in the gallery! :thumb:
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby fewdavid » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:44 am

hi everybody my name "FEW" from thailand Iam architect and use su for design and presentation glad to meet you and hope everybody comment to my post for work than better thankyou
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby BorgMan » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:54 am

Hiya peeps! I'm Michael, but frankly the whole interwebz knows me as BorgMan! I've been using SU5Pro for a couple of years now (from before the Google takeover), but I must say I'm quite happy with the program, with a switch to another 3D application nowhere near in sight. I usually model Star Trek (no cannon stuff, only my own) and sometimes dabble into architecture a bit; call it a hobby of mine ;) To be honest, the Google groups didn't really do it for me, so I decided to hop over here and see what you guys have to offer :)

So... Hi :D
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Gaieus » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:55 am

Hi Few and BorgMan - welcome to SCF!
I hope you will find this place friendly and will share some of your ideas / works over the board.
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Marian » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:40 pm

Welcome Borgman....you should make a thread for your Hayden class ship in the Gallery here too, it's a perfect example of sketchup mastery.
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Embedding sketchup files in 3D on a web page

Postby trumpetcase » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:25 pm

Hi!
I'm a CAD user and recently discovered Sketchup, it's great. I've signed up here mainly to find the answer to one question:
I am putting together a web page and I wondered if it would be possible to embed a sketchup file in a similar way to how google maps can be embedded on a page.

What I'm picturing here is, a building or something I've drawn, in a box on my webpage, with controls whereby visitors can rotate it and look at it in 3D right there on the webpage.

I guess this might mean importing it into another program? I could always make a video of it rotating or something, but what I really want is for it to be interactive, so the user can turn it around.

Any insights would be appreciated.
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby remus » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:12 pm

Hi trumpetcase, as far as i know there are 2 ways to embed an SU model into a webpage. Theres a program called hypercosm which, after installing a plugin, lets you view the model in full 3D.

Theres also a little thing from google (i cant rmeember what its called, sorry.) that lets you export a series of images from your model. This can then be placed in your website and viewed in a series, giving the impression of rotating the model in 3D.
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby trumpetcase » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:33 pm

Hi Remus thanks for the reply. Hypercosm seems to be roughly what I was looking for except as far as I can see it requires the user to download their player so is not hugely accessible. Also it is only for windows and I am a mac user. They say on their website to tell them if you want it for mac and if there's enough demand they might release a version - so I did.

As it happens I'd had a similar idea to the other alternative you suggest and I gave it a quick go using apples' iweb. I simply rotated the model incrementally and exported screen shots as png files using sketchup's own export facility, then put them in a folder numbered in order. I then imported this as an album into iweb. iweb creates an album preview image that, as you move your mouse across it, flicks through the images in that album, so immediately you get the effect of rotating the model, faster or slower depending how fast you move the mouse. So this is a pretty good option, except that it is possibly a bit clunky and high on memory, as web sites go, like most of iweb's end results.
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby trumpetcase » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:24 pm

It's me again. Tell me if I should be starting a new thread or something with this...! I thought I'd share with you all the email exchange I just had with a guy from hyercosm (you can find his email on their website) because it contains some interesting links

I said to him '...Am I right in understanding the user has to download your viewer in order to view the models on a webpage? Is it possible to have a simple interactive 3D model which can be viewed via flash? Simply to give the impression of rotating the model. I'm just thinking of maximum accessibility, not requiring the user to install something new.'
and he replied:

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It would be great if you didn't have to install a viewer of any kind,
but unfortunately, without a player the only things that you have
available to work with are: (1) Flash, (2) Java, and (3) Javascript.

People have tried for years to create 3D viewers using all three of
these technologies, but they are all much too slow. You can create toy
demos with them, but you can't view the types of 3D models that are
useful. For that, you need access to your machine's video card, which
requires a player.

Here are some examples that you can try out to see what I mean:
1) Flash
http://www.flashsandy.org/demos
http://www.cleoag.ru/labs/flex/parkseasons/
2) Java
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3dviewer.html
3) Javascript (the slowest of them all)
http://www.uselesspickles.com/triangles/demo.html

-abe
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby ROQ » Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:44 pm

Hello,
I'm new, live in Hollywood CA; have been using Sketchup since mid 2007 ('bout a year) for Design Review Board presentations with Southern California municipalities... as well as simply for illustration of work for clients.

Recently started doing long-distance design with online discussion and transfer of documents, text-messaging with tradesmen in the field, mobile calls with customers and contractors. Requires patience, but I see a huge future for this kind of work... contractors respond enthusiastically to the tools it provides for their client communications and their ability to see the effect of various ideas without the cost of trial and error, great flexibility.

I'm interested in learning how to add and make styles and tasteful backgrounds for renderings; am enjoying seeing the work of some very talented people on this forum.

Rafael O. Quezada
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Gaieus » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:58 pm

Hi Rafael - and welcome to the forums here!

I'm sure you will have a great chance to apply some of the great styles (and much more) our most valued contributors share here as well as get some inspiration in trhe Gallery of the board!

I keep being amazed what people can come up with there all the time! :thumb:
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby deathcloud » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:38 am

Gaieus wrote:Welcome JC and I'm looking forward to seeing your posts in the gallery! :thumb:

thanks mr. admin wow this forum was awsome i hope there is also a forum like this for filipinos.. theres few of my countrymen who uses sketchup for modelling they havnt seen the advantage of sketchup.. geezz.. i m also hosting a forum but for filipino architects.. but i spend more time reading here than maintaining my forum.. thanks for the warm welcome :fro:
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Gaieus » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:55 am

Well,

There are not too many professional architects (though in growing numbers) who use SU here in Hungary either. But things might change with time.

And yes, I saw your renders in the Gallery - really nice (just I'm so inferior at rendering that I didn't feel proper to comment and advise) ;)

BTW - did you know that you can make your forum link in your signature clickable? just type in the proper (full) URL http://www.arkinoy.tk
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby deathcloud » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:03 am

so do i sir i do not have an eye for comments ..since i was in college i am using sketchup till now im 2 years working its my weapon and at our office they respect what sketchup is capable with for i prove them they were wrong that sketchup was just a sketchy modeller.. see you around sir and il keep on posting and exploring renderings.. good day and thanks for the help sir.. il do it later im stil working with a banner that is a directing link
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby deathcloud » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:16 pm

sir gaeius can i link this forum to our forum permission from you sir
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Gaieus » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:54 am

Hi JC,

Sorry for not answering so long but I was away for a week.

Sure you can link this forum to anywhere - links are "free" on the internet! :D
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby ArchieB » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:05 pm

Hello
i am a student who loves to build and design any thing. As a kid i played with Knex and still do. Soon i'll be off to university and can't wait. I came across the sketchup software on a free ware site and after downloading it i was instantly drawn to it's realistic graphics,the tools and plugins designed for the software oh and the fact that it was free!
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Bahkieh » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:01 pm

Hi!
I recently discovered SketchUp while doing work for a drafting company.
I love the program and love being able to do things, even without AutoCAD knowledge.
Hopefully I browse and learn tons more from this forum!

Thanks!
Bahkieh
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Gaieus » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:05 am

Hello Both and welcome to the forums. I'm sure you'll have lots of fun using SU and also hope you'll have lots of fun getting to know the members here.
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby j_a_g.2012 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:27 pm

hey all!

i'm jim from the uk and i'm new here and to SU - downloaded it last friday, after struggling with some naff 3D animation progs over the years. I learnt 2D drafting and wireframes (A-CAD) in my 20's for hobbyist purposes, went on to 3dS and then got diverted in life (marriage, kids etc). Now i've found SU, played a little, to help shake off the rust and ended up by replicating a little "Wall-E" character/model for my 6 yr old son!! :roll: now looking to get into making buildings and very intrigued by the sketchyphysics plug in which i just installed.

looks like the learning curve is there, but thanks to the expertise here, possibly not as steep.

and i may not even get to use my favourite 3d modelling term of the early 90's : Non Uniform Rational B-Splines (ok, so that time doesn't count, does it?).

i might not be able to offer much in the way of advice, but i am keen to learn :)

cheers to all
jim / jAg
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby solo » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:29 pm

Welcome to SCF Jim.

I am sure you will enjoy your stay and learn much from many seasoned users and before you know it you too will be offering advice.
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby j_a_g.2012 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:02 pm

solo wrote:Welcome to SCF Jim.

I am sure you will enjoy your stay and learn much from many seasoned users and before you know it you too will be offering advice.


thnx. i'm just awed at the skills present here and the excellent tutorials.
i'm just going to take things slow & easy and re-learn that which i'd forgotten.

glad to be aboard

jim
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Ross Macintosh » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:49 pm

j_a_g.2012 wrote:I'm just going to take things slow...

Slow & steady is good, but the best advice is to keep having fun! The Wall-E model is a great idea for a fun learning project. (Now that you have him done you could turn him into a component and create a Wall-E assembly line -- or a Wall-E army -- or a... ). Jim I also hope you'll consider giving your clever son the opportunity to learn SketchUp. Kids can definitely learn SketchUp too + it can keep him off the street!

Jim - please post your Wall-E in the Gallery Forum.

To all the new users: Keep having fun! Push-pulling is fun! Just wait 'till you try 'Smooving' in the sandbox. (For adults only).

Regards, Ross
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby super sharp shooter » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:37 pm

Hi,
New to this forum, but not to sketchup...
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby xiaochouya » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:26 am

我来自中国,谢谢
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Gaieus » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:00 am

在这里欢迎
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby chris1184 » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:34 am

Hi guys i'm new here. Have been looking for this forum for a qiute long time :berserk: I would like to tell U something about my SU project!
So...i'm reconstructing old city in my home town (Gorzow Wlkp/Poland) that was destroyed in II world war. Almost 50% of building located inside old city wall was demolished so i decided to reconstruct them :) Sometimes it's hard becouse materials and pictures that i gethered are not enough to reconstruct in the way i would like to. But i think it looks not so bad for a amateour (using SU since july 08).
Why I use Scetch Up? Becouse it's easy becouse it gives me fun and becouse my projekt grows very fast every day. :ecstatic:
This is the link to my site where i'm uploding nev photos of landsber-gorzow projekt :arrow: http://landsberg-gorzow.blogspot.com/
If you guys have some questions ore notice something please leave your comment, i'll be thankful.

Chris
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Gaieus » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:49 am

Holy smokes, Chris, this is gorgeous! And you've been using SU for just a month! :thumb:

I can only give one suggestion really: since you are modeling very detailed, the profile lines ruin your details a little bit (as well as probably make detailed/high poly modeling a little slower fro your machine). So if you go to the Styles dialogue > In model > Edit tab, in the edge settings you can turn them off.

Now save this file (along with any further changes you wish to make in your custom Template) into the Resources/en_US/Templates folder in your SU application in Program Files (provided you use Windows) with a custom file name.

Now go to Window > Preferences > Templates and choose this as your template. But I'm pretty sure you have already known this anyway.

Also, for your gallery pictures, it is good to export your 2D images with a higher (say 2x) output and resize them in an external application - it will give better results (nice, finer lines etc. - which may be useful when you model so detailed).

There are a couple of people ehre who deal with historic reconstructions however (if you are interested): ELYSIUM (the ancient Rome), tomislavm (historic downtown Osijek), Julius (Pont du Gard), Pichuneke (Roman theatres) and others - search for their posts to see.

And please, post in teh Gallery, too (and not only links but images - people are too lazy to follow links :D )
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby chris1184 » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:36 am

Gaiesu thanks for your suggestions. :berserk: I didn't know about those details!! I was furious when i did pictures of this project and the profil lines cover other lines and make it all not clear. Ofcourse i will post them in the gallery after transforming this projekt with your suggestions so it looks nicer :)
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Re: Welcome new SketchUp user!

Postby Gaieus » Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:15 pm

Cool, I'm really glad that I could add something to these beautiful models.

You really seem to have the skills and enthusiasm for modeling so obviously you only need to pick up some small tips and tricks to make them perfect.

Do you also model the buildings from inside? At lest the church and stuff like that?
I have the plans of my cathedral from before it was rebuilt in the 19th century and I'm planning to make all its "versions" back to the 12th century as our episcopate will celebrate its millennium next year. All the Gothic vaultings and such - it will be a fun project!
This is a video of it in the 14th century (wmv - 14 Mb) modeled in SU but rendered in an external application. Though this one is not modeled from inside, the other churches in the distance are.
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