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Tips about running more than one Sketchup

Postby dukejazz » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:17 am

8-) 5 tips about running more than one sketchup

Tip 1) Run and do more with sketchup
You can run more than one sketchup programs at the same time.
Just hit your shortcut key twice and find out.

Tip 2) Cut and paste or paste in place
a) You can cut and past between between same levels of sketchup programs. 8-8 7-7 6-6
b) There are some copy programs that can copy many levels of copys with sketchup (25 level+ or more) M8 Free Multi Clipboard: Free Clip, Spartan Trial Upgrade

Tip 3) Use each sketchup for different task
Use one for laying out and other for creating the object.

Tip 4) Toolbars behavior
a) Remembers the last program exited is how the toolbars will look when you restart.
b) Common view can be saved by saving view - toolbar - saving toolbar positions.

Tip 5) Can use more plug-ins folders
a) By copying sketckup 8 to another location, you can load more plugins.
b) Also a empty plug-in folder is a great viewer
c) For zone testing for new downloaded plug-ins

(hint)
a) When copy is completed, make a new shortcut (sketchup2) to new sketchup.exe.
b) Load new plugins with a ruby toolbar.
c) Clean your registers, when needed.

All of this will help to over come the overloading of gray outs and bug splat.

(6 tips) for a better sketchup 8 m2...........pg 2

I made a plugin to make you life easier to control another sketchup
my tips that I posted here as help me to write this plugin.

History of the plugin
[plugin] Another_Sketchup v1.0 Dec 28 2011
[plugin] Another_Sketchup v1.1 Jan 18 2012
[plugin] Another_Sketchup plus v1.2 Jan 31 2012
[plugin] Another_Sketchup plus v1.2.1 feb 2 2012

(14 tips ) Sketchup noted Hints: by dukejazz in the making of Another Sketchup Plus ...........pg 2
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Re: 5 tips about runing more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby dukejazz » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:01 am

If you Know more please add to your tips here?
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Re: 5 tips about runing more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby tfdesign » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:52 pm

Hate to start yet another Mac vs PC war, but on a Mac, you're rid of this little curse, as you can have as many windows open at the same time in SU! By pressing the "Command" and "`" keys sequentially, you can scroll through your open windows within the current selected application.

Very useful! :D
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Re: 5 tips about runing more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby Jim » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:32 pm

tfdesign wrote:Hate to start yet another Mac vs PC war,


I think you misspelled "Love" :lol:

dukejazz wrote:Tip 5) Can use more plug-ins


Interesting idea of opening 2 SketchUp instances each with a different set of Plugins.

Related: There are couple (one free, one not) of Plugins that open a Component in a new SketchUp window for editing, then reload them in the original model:

1. viewtopic.php?t=33730

2. http://www.suplugins.com/edit.php
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Re: 5 tips about runing more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby tfdesign » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:42 pm

Jim wrote:
tfdesign wrote:Hate to start yet another Mac vs PC war,


I think you misspelled "Love" :lol:



Yes, you're quite right Jim! :oops: I'll rephrase that....

I don't want to start another blah blah war but.....blah blah blah........!

:lol:

It is a right pita about not being able to open multiple windows of SketchUp in Windows. Perhaps Google should introduce tabs for Windows users? (I also use, (and love) Windows 7!)

edit; Sorry, yes Chris is right. I swallow humble pie! :oops: 'Multiple windows' I meant to say. You can open multiple instances. It's just, from what I remember a little clunky- having all those SU icons in the dock. :?
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Re: 5 tips about runing more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby Chris Fullmer » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:45 pm

I'm still confused who can't open more than one window of SketchUp in Windows? I have 4 open right now. 3 from SU 8 and one from Su 7. I've had more open in the past. Its a non-issue for me. Am I doing something wrong?
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Re: 5 tips about runing more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby Box » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:23 pm

To roughly quote Gaieus from when I was confused about that,


Those are multiple instances of SU running. In the Mac, you can open multiple files in the same instance.
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Re: 5 tips about runing more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby tfdesign » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:39 pm

Yes, I just corrected myself. :) :oops:
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Re: 5 tips about runing more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby Aerilius » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:05 pm

About multiple versions of SketchUp:
As to what I tested, SketchUp sometimes loads the installation from the default directory even when you have double-clicked on the exe in another (copied) directory (the same main version number). I believe it remembers the location from the registry. :roll:

When you install another language version (I do that regularly for the help forums), SketchUp checks if its language is the same as the OS language; if not it falls back to English (for example French SU on German WinXP shows up in English). That can be quite annoying since Windows licenses are mostly for one single language.
A personal work-around is that I use Wine (when I'm not on XP), a software that pretends towards Windows programs being run on a real Windows. There I can run different SketchUp versions without knowing of each other and in different language setups.
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Re: 5 tips about runing more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby broomstick » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:22 pm

My tip would be: different versions save your life!

Keeping Sketchup 7 free at hand means you can import dwg files, and then open everything in Sketchup 8 free to do all the work!

;)
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Re: 5 tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby dukejazz » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:50 am

tip2 There are some copy programs that can copy many levels of copys with sketchup (25 level+) M8 Free Multi Clipboard: Free Clip
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clip on_clip off
This make a good way to caddy tranfer objects to another sketchup.
So if you 5 trees 5 plants and 5 rocks it be eazy to arrage into a scene in another sketchup.
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Re: 5 tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby jeff hammond » Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:36 pm

dukejazz wrote:Tip 2) Cut and past
a) You can cut and past between between same levels of sketchup programs. 8-8 7-7 6-6


my tip (or is this already obvious? :D )

use 'paste in place' instead of just 'paste'.. not only do you use the clipboard to easily bring geometry in&out of multiple windows, you use paste in place in order to put geometry in the exact same spot within the drawing area.

it's located in the file menu but should definitely be assigned to a keystroke.. i use ⇧⌘V
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Re: 5 tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby Gaieus » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:48 pm

Jeff Hammond wrote:i use ⇧⌘V

Is that Greek for Shift+Ctrl+V? :lol: (that's what I use actually)
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Re: 5 tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby jeff hammond » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:13 pm

Gaieus wrote:
Jeff Hammond wrote:i use ⇧⌘V

Is that Greek for Shift+Ctrl+V? :lol: (that's what I use actually)


yes, i do in fact have a greek keyboard! how'd you know?
:lol:
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Re: 5 tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby Gaieus » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:28 pm

Well, I did not really mean "Greek" but just the saying when something is "Greek to me". We (in Hungary) actually say "it's Chinese to me" but these proverbs have different variations.

"A hungry horse dreams of oats" would sound like "a hungry pig dreams of acorns" in Hungarian (well, would not really sound like this as I translated it...)
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Re: 5 tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby jeff hammond » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:31 pm

Gaieus wrote:Well, I did not really mean "Greek" but just the saying when something is "Greek to me". We (in Hungary) actually say "it's Chinese to me" but these proverbs have different variations.


nah.. i know that saying too (and i also use the chinese version more often than the greek)..
i was just making a joke out of it..
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Re: 5 tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby Gaieus » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:58 pm

Ah, one never knows... :lol:
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Re: 5 tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby dukejazz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:54 pm

Your guys are right!
My tips 2 should read

Tip 2) Cut and paste or paste in place
a) You can cut and past between between same levels of sketchup programs. 8-8 7-7 6-6
b) There are some copy programs that can copy many levels of copys with sketchup (25 level+ or more) M8 Free Multi Clipboard: Free Clip, Spartan Trial Upgrade

Spartan can store, name, and save hundreds of small pasteable objects
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Re: 5 tips about runing more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby irwanwr » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:05 pm

broomstick wrote:My tip would be: different versions save your life!

Keeping Sketchup 7 free at hand means you can import dwg files, and then open everything in Sketchup 8 free to do all the work!

;)

:thumb:
that is interesting. i think i need to search for SketchUp 7 to download.
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Re: tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby dukejazz » Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:16 am

6 tips for a better sketchup

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Load sketchup in 2 sec, with no plugin loaded
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Clean up skutchup Reg.
Load SketchUp8.reg to Wordpad.
Delete all ToolbarsUser-Bar informtion and also the ToolbarsUserCustom-Bar too. (may be a 1000) then save as sys clear.reg

Easy to load plug-ins.
Unlimited plug-in loads.
Load plug-in only when you need them.

(This is my best tip all year of 2011)
When sketchup starts it doesn't see any hidden ruby files, you can hide what you don't need to load yet,
and load the require ones that you do.
Later with a ruby toolbar script loader you can load the hidden ones you want. That's because your telling about the name, type and location of ea. plug-ins... thus no double buffering of plug-in folders and also the plug-ins are in the folder that are meant to be in.

Loads all plugins in normal plugin file.
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Low ram usage on startup.
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Easy to load Ruby toolbar
This perhaps is the only loader you need.
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Easy to do.
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Making a repeatable script loader ( use cancel to stop).
Easy to edit.
Just add rt_load
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Fix most gray outs.
When you need to start an .rbs, unhide it and start a 2rd SU.
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Re: 5 tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby dukejazz » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:45 am

Lower plugin memory usage, mean bigger skp graph files. Yes?
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Re: 5 tips about running more than one Sketchup, What yours?

Postby dukejazz » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:22 am

[plugin] Another_Sketchup 1.0

Works in Sketchup 6,7,or 8

It works in the context menu named " - Another Sketchup ".
Just give a right click on any object for automation of loading a another sketchup.

Its helps to rework any docucments objects.
When done reworking then paste in place back to your docucment.

It have the following submenus: - note

1 Copy selected to another Sketchup. -rework object
2 Move selected to another Sketchup. -rework object
3 Paste in place to another sketchup. -rework object
4 Copy all to another sketchup. -restart unhidden plugins
5 Copy all and Exit your Sketchup. - Please place in place back after it closes to any of the open sketchup or start a skp file to auto paste in place. If it paste in place to your new sketchup and you dont need it just hit undo. Warning the copy is lost if you clip to clipboard before you paste in place.
[plugin] Another_Sketchup_Plus v1.2 is now a toolbar
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Re: Tips about running more than one Sketchup

Postby dukejazz » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:23 am

14) tips
Some Sketchup noted Hints: by dukejazz in the making of Another Sketchup Plus Ver. 1.2

1 To manually (flush a clipboard) 3d entities clean: Use 3d text tool and copy a leter of text Then [cancel] out.
2 Another Sketchup (auto clear clipboard) uses a Cmd.link script to clear clipboard. A ruby API script that could do this, was not found.?
3 (Security reasons): Flush clipboard when you leave your work area.
4 (Never loose a documents) Make use of making copies of your document in your brower.
5 (Smart) Open brower's copies to rework on keeps you saving back to original.
6 (Limits gray-out) Keep startup and console loaded plug-ins to small and few.
7 (Keeps Skp file size small) In model, components and materials: uses (Via) Save and purge.
8 (Watch memory flow:) Task manager: It is normal for parents overhead memory to be larger than a child.
9 (Large doc gray-outs) Open a new parent copy of the document to paste back into it, because of larger overhead of note 8.
10 (Max File save size) Max file size is by power of zoom extents, and by zoom in/out decreases the save size?
11 (Polyreduce if you can) Overworking objects gives higher code counts.
12 (Bug splats)HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\Google\\SketchUp8.
a (Find) ToolbarsUser-Summary and ToolbarsUserCustom-Summary.
b (via) Right-click_ permission special _ to you _full control_ on and you read off. The resticted and system read only_full control is off . This (Locks) Toolbars to fix num ToolbarsUser_limits overloading your registers.
13 By using a Sketchup::require statement, in a rb, loads a rbs scrip to console.
14 Fix you startup rbs code to zero by via note 8. Another Sketchup Plus Ver. 1.2 runs as ruby script with extensions.
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