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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby pilou » Thu May 28, 2009 9:40 am

Take a look at the Duh thread ;)
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby mogogirl » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:26 pm

As I'm still a beginner, take this for what it is worth. The biggest help for me was the Aidan Chopra series of videos on YouTube. I now also have the companion guide.."SketchUp for Dummies". He is very plain spoken and easy to understand and has lots of great tips. Just perfect for a complete newbie to 3D graphics like me!

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby idraft » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:14 am

If you are always having trouble opening your models because you work with different versions eg SU6 & SU7 you can drag and drop your model over the SU shortcut you created on your desktop. This opens SU straight away.

If anyone knows a way to right click and open with the correct SU version in your pull down menu that would be handy too. :enlight: after all how do you tell if your model has been created in SU 6/7 without exploring properties. They have the same symbol "whatsamecallit"
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby =Physicsguy= » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:26 am

You'll want to become familiar with the functions of all the tools. Things are much easier if you understand what you are doing. You should also group any object you create, so you don't run into problems where two faces have the same edge. Save your works frequently.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby TIG » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:01 am

Make shortcuts of frequently used tools/operations... it will make life so much easier.
Get used to using them you will quickly speed up considerably...

Some obvious ones are built-in like...
<Spacebar>=Select
M=ove
L=ine
A=rc
C=ircle
P=ushpull
F=ollowme
S=cale
T=apemeasue [*actually I swap this to T=extTool and D=istanceTool(i.e.tapemeasure) + alt+D=imensions]
R=otate
E=raser
Z=oom
...
However, some extra ones speed things up even more, like... [here's what I use but you should choose your own]
Q = Quick reverse faces - you have to have a face selected for Reverse to show in the Preferences Shortcut filter...
H =Hide - again you have to have a selection for Hide to show in the Preferences Shortcut filter...
shift+H = unHide - again you have to have a selection for Hide to show in the Preferences Shortcut filter...
ctrl+H = Hide rest of model during an edit - toggle
ctrl+alt+H = Hide similar components during an edit - toggle
U = Un-select everything - ctrl+T is also built-in... but I think that just pressing U is quicker...
shift+X = eXplode
alt+S = Smooth
alt+E= Entity-Info
alt+M = Material browser
alt+B = Component Browser
alt+X = Xray mode toggle
alt+G = hidden Geometry toggle
alt+V = show Axes toggle
\ = Delete all Guides
F2 = open Ruby-Console
etc etc

I also swap G to 'Make Group' and make B 'Make Component' [as B=Block in ACAD]; however, if you want to keep G as your 'Make Component' shortcut, try adding shift+G for 'Make Group' - making groups is a vital way of keeping your geometry separated and tidy - shortcut key is very useful...

The well known...
ctrl+Z = Undo
ctrl+X = Cut
ctrl+C = Copy
ctrl+V = Paste
_Can be added to with this...
ctrl+shift+V = Paste in Place - p[art of a quick way to cut something from one group and paste it into another in the same place...
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby GreenToaster » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:33 pm

Draw something that has an amorphic shape - sketch it out by hand, then create it with S/U. This may be more challenging than you think - pick something "easy" to begin with. Human body parts - head, hand, foot - are really very challenging to reproduce with accurate proportions and details.

Start with something simple and fun - it's a great way to learn more about S/U.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Gloryboy » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:24 am

Use the forum like it's your best friend...ask for help when you are in trouble. No sense stumbling in the dark when someone is more than willing to shed some light on your problem.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby arklandesign » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:49 pm

As a month old sketchup user the things that have assisted me most recently, are the following:

1. When working on a model and making changes always save with the same name but add version 2 or 3 or 13... This way, if you make a mistake you can always go back to a previously saved version.

2. Locking groups assists in keeping ones sanity, it's only one extra click to do or undo, but can save one a lot of anguish.

3. Sometimes orbiting with the eraser or the move tool active, is akin to running around with a virtual pair of scissors.

I think the most important rule to remember is always... always.... group... It took me some time to get into the habit, but it makes all the difference. Also, always check components downloaded from 3DWH for extra layers and mistakes and purge them to the default layer, B4 introducing them into ones own model. Don't take it for granted that the model one has downloaded is safe to use... they sometimes simply aren't. Ever since I picked up this tip from Gaeius in this forum, life has been a lot more stress free.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Gaieus » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:00 pm

arklandesign wrote:...Sometimes orbiting with the eraser or the move tool active, is akin to running around with a virtual pair of scissors...

Haha. How true. And how much I recognise my girlfriend (who is NOT using "virtual" weapons only)
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby •BTM » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:44 am

• If you ever want to select an object enclosed in faces, instead of zooming into it, delete an enclosing face, select the object, then undo. The object will stay selected.

• If you ever wish you had a tool for doing something specific, such as push/pull on curved surfaces, making tapers, creating bezier curves, sculpting, flattening geometry, painting materials randomly on faces, rounding corners, or something else, you might find what you're looking for in the plugins forum.

• Look for free textures on the internet. The ones that come with sketchup aren't usually that good.

• Figure out the keyboard shortcuts for all the tools. If you don't know one, just guess. ( L = line, R = rectangle, C = circle, O = orbit, etc.)
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby takesh h » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:59 am

Use Outliner to select groups and components.
If you have comprehensive naming convention for them, selecting deeply nested components within others is a piece of cake.
It will drastically reduce the need of zooming in + out and orbiting around the space because it will grant you access even to components outside of your screen... or no matter how small they appear on the screen.
So... Let's start grouping and naming them!
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Cyberdactyl » Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:21 pm

Didn't see this mentioned in the thread, however, I may have missed it.

If you're working in tight and especially inside detailed areas, create a scene saving that perspective and position. If you get turned around and disoriented, you can quickly return to the view.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Tobobo » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:29 pm

I have one,

If you are working in a big detailed model that is slow to open or change scenes. Set up a scene with only the basic geometry on so you can use it to move around. This is helpful when creating an animation.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby bakbek » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:35 am

Hi all,

I keep watching this forum, but never did post much... but I've just posted a new article on my blog at http://www.ronenbekerman.com called 9 SketchUP Tips for better 3d modeling workflow that sums up my tips for a SketchUP beginner users or even more experienced ones.

Do check it out.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby ~GoldenFrog®~ » Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:20 am

The axes tool is a nice one. you can line up your axes with the perhaps not sraight face that you are working on. I think its in the "Large tool set" Hope I help someone with this. :ugeek:
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby aadbuild » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:32 am

1. do these tutorials http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/gsu7/videos.html
2.get a 3 button mouse
3.ctrl Z will undo last action
4.stay away from the move tool (like an X with arrows on the endes)to start with.
5. print the keyboard short cuts and put them in a place you can see until you get used to them
6.get the book "Sketchup for dummies" big help.
7. learn about components Short cut is "G"
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Rafa » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:34 am

I'm a complete begginner, so here is my tip. :mrgreen:
Sooner or later you will be using some plugins or ruby scripts.
Try one at a time, know what it does, and if it works for you, save a copy in an ordered folder.
You can always re-install the main aplication, but find again a usefull plugin may take time.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby honoluludesktop » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:52 am

I too am still a beginner, but have come to understand that its not always necessary to look for a plugin to do what you want. Often there are ways to do things by SU commands that are not obvious to us beginners. "Move" not only moves, but copies, creates arrays, rotates, etc. So my tip is, at first as a beginner, try hard to find a way to do it without a plugin, because that forces you to understand the program better.

Also read this page everytime a tip is posted:-)
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Anssi » Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:05 pm

honoluludesktop wrote:its not always necessary to look for a plugin to do what you want. Often there are ways to do things by SU commands that are not obvious to us beginners. "Move" not only moves, but copies, creates arrays, rotates, etc. So my tip is, at first as a beginner, try hard to find a way to do it without a plugin, because that forces you to understand the program better.

And tho learn these tricks, look at Johnny Lemire's cool tutorials (many of them to be found in these pages, in .SKP format), even if you think you know how to do what the tut is about. They still make my jaw drop.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Gaieus » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:59 pm

Indeed. Jean (Johnny) performs these tuts in a way you will always understand why and how SU (or in fact, YOU) is/are doing things like they can be done in a certain way.

Native SU - native learners of it...
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby bmscmoreira » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:05 pm

Well, here is my tip (hope someone hasn't said this yet, if so... its never enough to repeat)
Since Sketchup works with front and back faces (a plane has both) be sure that front faces are always facing you and the camera. Having a mixture of front/back faces makes applying materials harder in Sketchup and a lot of other problems when, later on, you will export sketchup scenes to be rendered in an external renderer software.
By default, back faces display in a blue/gray shade which sometimes is confusing with the front faces (which display white). So, I always work with red back-faces: the switch can be done in the styles/edit panel of Sketchup.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby boofredlay » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:55 am

If this was mentioned before sorry. However, here is something I use all the time. Use the X, Y & Z axis to create construction lines with the Tape Measure tool :tape: . There is no need to have a face already drawn.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Scrub,Burn,Repeat » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:55 am

use the shift key, early and often.

08-Feb-2010 edit: avoid using mouse to select "hide" from context-click menu. every once in a while the mouse will mistakenly click "erase", and the result will appear the same as if mouse had clicked "hide". Unfortunately, much later (even later after a few unhide-all's) you will wonder to where some parts have disappeared.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby kambing300 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:32 am

DON'T bring your old CAD preconceptions to SketchUp! Groups, components, guides, and accuracy are just fine, but FIRST, discover what's DIFFERENT about SU: the 'sticky' geometry! Get comfortable with 'Move' and 'toggle autofold'; these two tools are all you need to create amazing objects from elementary geometry. Forget everything you know about CAD and discover what is possible! Have fun!
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby pmolson » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:27 pm

First open beer, then open sketchup!

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby pmolson » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:02 pm

Beginners of an appropriate age of course.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby flyashy » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:07 am

Remember that once you've changed the arc/circle segment resolution ( by typing the number of segments in the mesurements window while drawing them i.e. 100s instead of 24s etc) it remains that way until you change it again.

For example let's say you're drawing a 50' Dia. Circle it'll be all right to type in a large number of segments, but then it'll stay at that number for any new circles you draw. so you might end up drawing 200 segment circles for a 3" dia Pipe component and your model will just collapse under all the weight of edges!

The easier way to have finer segmented curves is to change the resolution afterwards from the entity info window.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby majid » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:11 pm

set your units first
pay careful attention to "OPTIONS" while importing/exporting.
be skillful on selection methods.(usinf context meno, shift , Ctrl,...)
make group/components (depending on your aim) to avoid "gluing" all objects to each other.
while you have even 2 repetitive object, start using components instead of doing repetitive jobs.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby halane34 » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:20 am

Como todavía soy un principiante, toma esto por lo que vale la pena. La mejor ayuda para mí fue la serie de Aidan Chopra de videos en YouTube. Ahora también tienen la guía complementaria .. "de SketchUp para Dummies". Está muy claro que habla y fácil de entender y tiene un montón de buenas sugerencias. Es perfecto para un novato de gráficos 3D como yo!
Espero que esto ayude!
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby KXI System » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:27 am

halane34 wrote:Como todavía soy un principiante, toma esto por lo que vale la pena. La mejor ayuda para mí fue la serie de Aidan Chopra de videos en YouTube. Ahora también tienen la guía complementaria .. "de SketchUp para Dummies". Está muy claro que habla y fácil de entender y tiene un montón de buenas sugerencias. Es perfecto para un novato de gráficos 3D como yo!
Espero que esto ayude!


Translation:
As I'm still a beginner, take this for what it's worth. The best help for me was the number of Aidan Chopra videos on YouTube. Now also have the companion guide .. SketchUp for Dummies ". It's very clear and easy to understand speech and has lots of good suggestions. It's perfect for beginners to 3D graphics as I do hope this helps!


SO true!
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