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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby solo » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:14 am

- Do not try and learn too many things at once
- Learn about ruby's
- Switch off autosave and get into a routine of saving after major steps (autosave slows down system)
- Only texture at end as textures bog down model
- Do not model new components in scene, open new instance to create new objects and then make them components and import into scene
- Use layers, I repeat use layers as it makes the scene manageable
- Purge entire model regularly
- Walk away, after 30 minutes or so leave your work station and return ater five minutes, as this helps with concentration and a great way to find mistakes as the renewed eye will find faults
- Import amazing models and destroy them in order to learn how they were made, I have learned a lot by other peoples techniques
- If you cannot figure it out, come here and ask
- keep your modeling machine lean, limit the amout of background apps to a bare minimum as it helps with speed and stability.
- Be organized, keep texture and component folders organized as ease of finding stuff means productive workflow.
- Most importantly as I've said before, have fun, enjoy the Sketchup experiance and keep playing as the skills you learn today will be forgotten next month unless you keep at it.

Hope this helps as this is the way I do it.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby 21D » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:16 am

solo wrote:- Do not try......

- Do not model new components in scene, open new instance to create new objects and then make them components and import into scene


....Hope this helps as this is the way I do it.


Hi there SOLO,
I ask may a "why"??
i also have the same workflow as you, but i do not know the why, for this point...
:thumb: :D
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby solo » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:24 am

Rachid,

The reason for this is that opening a new instance of SU enables you to work without interferance, clean and focused on the object you are building, it also helps for smooth workflow as the new instance is free of cumbersome geometry.
If you are using any unstable plugins and you should experiance a crash then only that object crashes and not the scene.
Ever try orbiting an object within a huge scene? well with a new instance where the object is built at 0,0 orbiting is easy and control over the building process is much better.

Hope this helps you undestand my workflow.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby idraft » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:27 am

Go to styles, wireframe and set your model to colour "by axis" ,...oh and dont try to read everything on this forum otherwise you will not get any work done. :roflmao:
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby 21D » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:32 am

@SoLo
Yup helped allot, and i did notice that orbiting in large models is quite a nuisance,
thanks for explaining to me Solo, am definitely going to add it to my work flow :D
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Tobobo » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:51 pm

I learnt from V1 and one of my best tips would be to learn triangulation of surfaces, then you will be able to understand why the sandbox tool is creating that really wired shape.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Jim57 » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:45 pm

Ever wonder why the screen navigates the way it does? Put your cursor where you want the action to happen. If you have one model in the foreground and another in the background, put your cursor over the one you want to spin & then orbit. If you are shrinking/expanding the view, you can travel through your scene by putting the cursor on the side you want to move away from. Shrink, then move to the opposite side to expand the view. Since everything moves around the cursor, you will move from one side of your scene to the other.

I work on a Macbook with a scrolling touchpad, so I can always shrink and expand my view easily, no matter what tool is up. This lets me get around without changing to a viewing tool.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Gaieus » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:39 am

Yes, definitely ood tips, Jim! :thumb:

One can so easily forget about such "evidences" even after a few months of using SU while it is obvious that simply navigating in/around a model also needs a (however small) learning curve.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby vinnie » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:06 am

Although I am a beginner myself, my beginner tip would be:
First thing before you draw anything, make sure you are drawing in the right unit.
Same with importing a drawing. Make sure on the options tab under review icon, check if it selected the same unit style as your drawing, or else the imported drawing would be wrong scaled.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby GreenToaster » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:56 pm

In addition to setting your units first, if you're going to draw a small object, like a watch, for example, you may also want to disable length snapping, or set this number to a smaller value.

Window --> Model Info --> Units . . .
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Gaieus » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:59 pm

In fact, I keep it off all the time.

BUT for a beginner, it CAN be useful until (s)he gets used to using precise vaues in the VCB/Measurement box and/or exploiting the full power of (other) inferences.

At the same time, when trying to trace something on an image, it can become a pain so turn it off immediately then.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby pbacot » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:07 pm

Required Newbie Watching.

Watch these great videos before getting too far. You may find one to answer your immediate question.

Experieced users will also learn things they never knew or forgot.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby jessejames » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:53 am

I would have to say the single most important thing you can do with any software is go through every menu item until you understand what they do. I mean EVERYTHING. From the filemenu on... all the way to preferences and the help menu. You may not understand every menu items usage right away, but you will find later on that by familiarizing yourself with these options you will learn the software much quicker.

When i first started in computers--maybe 2 years ago, i am a late bloomer, i know :)--i had no idea of usergroups, Usenet, chatrooms, much less how to find information on the net. I did not buy a video or read a book, i just opened the software and learned the damn thing.

Get up close an personal with the user interface and your learning will be so much more fun

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Gaieus » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:13 pm

:thumb:
Exactly. This is what Jean (Johnny) Lemire also suggests at his 3D BaseCamp session in the "Tips & Tricks" panel (last presenter in this video).
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Jim » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:31 am

Do NOT assign shortcuts to the numberpad keys, especially if you ever use the Numberpad to enter Measuremensts (VCB) values.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby GreenToaster » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:44 pm

Jim wrote:Do NOT assign shortcuts to the numberpad keys, especially if you ever use the Numberpad to enter Measuremensts (VCB) values.

:idea: And . . . don't use X as a shortcut key or you won't be able to create linear or radial patterns.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby remus » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:09 pm

Similarly, dont use "/" as a shortcut either as its already used for arrays.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby boofredlay » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:23 pm

GreenToaster wrote: :idea: And . . . don't use X as a shortcut key or you won't be able to create linear or radial patterns.

Not true. I have used X as my x-ray shortcut for years and have never had a problem.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby GreenToaster » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:46 pm

Do this and it won't work - and I guarantee it:

Step 1
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Select a group (very important)


Step 2
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Window -->
Preferences -->
Shortcuts -->
Edit/Item/Flip Along/Group's Green -->
Add Shortcut (insert X in field) -->
Press the "+" button -->
OK


Step 3
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Copy the group -->
Now, the "x" function does NOT work

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Gaieus » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:48 pm

Maybe Eric uses the * symbol for multiplying in arrays ;)
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby boofredlay » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:18 pm

Brad you are correct. If I do that "X" will not work as a shortcut. I was simply responding to your general statement saying: "Don't use X as a shortcut..." because you can, and I do.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Chris Fullmer » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:13 pm

I use X for explode. No problems there either. Even if I move/array a group. It will not explode the group.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby JoelM3DM » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:07 pm

Another tip ... Some things that are very important for me, and probably helpful to others:

-- I have trouble controlling fine movements with my mouse, so I use a WACOM TABLET. It's wonderful for SU work. The stylus is easy to use. It has buttons I can set to whatever I want. I put the tablet on my lap when I am at my desk, and I also have a left mouse that I use sometimes, especially for Rclick.

-- And when I go to the local coffeeshop and work, I bring my laptop. I'm obsessive about lightweight. The Wacom Tablet is too heavy and I hate touchpads. I found just the thing: a V-MOUSE. http://www.v-mouse.com/ It is a very lightweight optical mouse that you hold like a pen. I also got a teeny-tiny mouse for my left hand that I use only for its buttons.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby remus » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:12 pm

JoelM3DM wrote:-- I have trouble controlling fine movements with my mouse, so I use a WACOM TABLET. It's wonderful for SU work. The stylus is easy to use. It has buttons I can set to whatever I want. I put the tablet on my lap when I am at my desk, and I also have a left mouse that I use sometimes, especially for Rclick.


Id second that, i really like my wacom.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby solo » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:13 pm

While on the subject of hardware that can help, I would really suggest folks trying the 'Space Explorer' or 'navigator', it's not for everyone and does take getting used to, but once you get going it can increase productivity tremendously. I use it daily and owe my ability to model as fast as I do to it.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby DocuMike » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:38 pm

This is my first post to this group. I've found that using a wireless KB/trackball has been a great help. For PC I use an Adesso WKB 3000UB (http://www.adesso.com/products_detail.asp?productid=336). It's like a 2 handed mouse so you can quickly toggle between orbit (scroll wheel in and trackball) and pan (scroll wheel in and L mouse and trackball) when moving around the model. I see they have many more models now. Some may be better (like programmable function keys) but I find this KB to be ergonomic heaven. Anyone else using it or other input tools like this?
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Luis Esteves » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:37 am

Hi all,

Before doing a big change that you are not sure of the result.....first, for security, make a copy of your work (save as). Sometimes, it's difficult to go back (even with CTRL+Z).
I think it's a good idea to save multiple releases of the same project, at importants steps.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby tesmeko » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:05 pm

Erase all the centerlines that was been used for autocad before importing.

Instead of using multiple curves, try to make points so you wouln't forget drawing the arc itself in sketchup as curves inn autocad almost seem to fail connecting in one of its ends.

For fast modeling try to just use the exterior wall lines, use the windowizer for the doors and windows, its easier and faster when you're in a hurry.

Enjoy every bit of it modeling.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Ecuadorian » Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:44 pm

1) When the 'scroll wheel zoom' is not working as you wish... Press Z and zoom the good, old fashioned way.

2) To zoom on the selection, Right click > Zoom extents.

3) Until you get used to the 3-point perspective SketchUp uses, you might want to activate the colored crosshairs (Window > Preferences > Drawing > Display crosshairs).

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Twistlok45 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:06 pm

As a complete newb myself, i would have to say use the instructor function to familiarize yourself with each tool and spend some time with each one.
Think of a simple project to do and see how it turns out.
Use this in conjunction with asking for advice and you will be pleasantly surprised.

I would like to thank Gaieus for helping me out with a simple pvc fitting tut.
With that, i was able to create more complicated fittings on my own, first try!

Thank you Gaieus for the help!
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