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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby pilou » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:53 am

Enable "Hidden geometry" can help for curved forms and explain why some surfaces can't be selected ;)
Works also fine with the Joint Push Pull (the plug to add first!
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Edson » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:03 am

the three pillars of modelling well (IMHO, of course):
1. work ALWAYS on layer 0;
2. GROUP whatever geometry you are creating (in case there should be more than one copy of it, make it a COMPONENT);
3. place it on another LAYER whose name makes sense (essential for controlling the model's visualization).
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby HFM » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:45 pm

Edson wrote:the three pillars of modelling well (IMHO, of course):
1. work ALWAYS on layer 0;
2. GROUP whatever geometry you are creating (in case there should be more than one copy of it, make it a COMPONENT);
3. place it on another LAYER whose name makes sense (essential for controlling the model's visualization).


A big Amen to that, I always work this way :thumb:

My tip:

While selecting different kind of materials for your model to try out looks, don't forget to delete them afterward since SketchUp will remember every single material you've selected, clogging op your model's file size in the process.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Jean Lemire » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:46 pm

Hi Folks.

My first tip: READ THE HELP.

Just ideas.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby boofredlay » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:34 pm

But that is just one idea Jean :D

Use construction lines (with the tape measure tool) as much as is necessary.
And I also agree with Alan, watch all the training videos... many times over.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Anssi » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:15 pm

Don't curse the SU inferencing, learn its quirks so it start working for you. One of the keys is to use Shift (locking) creatively with the inferences.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby modelhead » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:07 am

That's so true Anssi....I was a fighter at first but now It's my best friend.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Hazza » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:19 am

Anssi wrote:Don't curse the SU inferencing, learn its quirks so it start working for you. One of the keys is to use Shift (locking) creatively with the inferences.

I never fought it, I just needed practice to get it to do what I wanted. I knew the Shift key locked tools like the protractor but didn't know it locked inferencing too, thanks.

Boofredlay wrote:And I also agree with Alan, watch all the training videos... many times over.

That's one of the things I didn't do, I was too keen to just jump right in, I downloaded all of the SU5 videos, watched one or 2 and got bored. I enjoyed the doing and learning by mistakes more than just sitting passively watching someone else do it.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Alan Fraser » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:05 am

No, no. You don't sit and watch...getting bored. You watch part way through, then say to yourself "Let's see if I understood that bit right." pause the video and try for yourself. Watch a bit more....pause it again....especially with the much longer V6 videos. Otherwise, by the time you reach the end, you've forgotten the stuff at the beginning.
You know what they say about showing somebody something is better than telling them about it...but doing it for yourself is best of all.

I'll bet a lot of people here learnt much of their expertise by reading questions from people that they didn't know the answer to right away. So they jumped right in...maybe refreshed their own memory by watching a video or reading the Help...and figured out the answer themselves.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Ross Macintosh » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:21 am

Have Fun! Play!
It is human nature to jump right in, be ambitious, and attempt a "real project" when you are just getting your feet wet. That's what most of us did and its great so long as you can avoid frustrating yourself. Frustrations can zap your spirit. SketchUp should be a joy - and it can be.

Mix it up with some playing. Just fooling around and exploring tools and ideas is a fast-track to becoming more comfortable in SketchUp. It can be a remarkably intuitive program but you need to understand the flexibility it offers. You find that understanding through play and just trying different things.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Gidon Yuval » Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:51 am

Don't try out tools and techniques that are new to you on a model that you are working on. Rather, open a new file and try out the tool or technique there. Once you feel comortable with it then, and only then, should you begin using the tool/technique on your models.
Nothing is more frustrating or agonising than messing up a model you need with unfammiliar tools to the extent that you have to start the whole thing over again.

before using "follow me" on something like this:
Brass Medallion.jpg

try it on some thing like this:
simple follow me.jpg

Before wraping textures on something like this:
Brown set.jpg

try different textures on something like this:
simple texture wrap.jpg

And like everybody said already: Have fun with it.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Hazza » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:48 am

Another tip:

If you are repeating the same action over and over again, someone has probably already created a Ruby plugin to do it automatically for you.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Alan Fraser » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:31 am

What!...someone's written a Ruby that says "No, you stupid B####rd, move along the OTHER axis." ;)
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Hazza » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:00 pm

Alan Fraser wrote:What!...someone's written a Ruby that says "No, you stupid B####rd, move along the OTHER axis." ;)

I said ACTION, not mistake :)

In a related beginners hint:
If you are having diffuculty getting SU to draw in the axis you want, change the camera angle. (eg, it's impossible to get SU to draw in the blue axis if you are looking from above.)

Related to the above:
It is easier to click, release, move the mouse and click again, than to click, drag and release. This is because you can middle click with ease using the first method but you will struggle holding down both using the second when you want to change the camera angle.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby JuanV.Soler » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:39 pm

Click every now and then the Zoom Extents buttom.
you may get a surprise of something existing on the drawing board that you are not aware of.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Hazza » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:46 am

Another beginners tip:

The behaviour of most tools can be altered by using different keys. SU will tell you what those keys are in the status bar along the bottom of the window, read them.

For example, when you select the "Tape measure" tool you can toggle guide points on and off using the "Ctrl" key.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby GreenToaster » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:33 am

I create a small box so I can quickly reorient the screen cursor onto either of the three default planes - put the cursor on one of the faces of the box, hold down shift to lock the orientation - this works but I'm sure there's a shortcut but I've never discovered what it is.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Edson » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:32 am

GreenToaster wrote:I create a small box so I can quickly reorient the screen cursor onto either of the three default planes - put the cursor on one of the faces of the box, hold down shift to lock the orientation - this works but I'm sure there's a shortcut but I've never discovered what it is.
:)

this is a very good tip. i have seen people on videos do that on the axes but i can hardly reproduce that. doing what you suggest works 100% of the time.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Rogue® » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:45 am

If you struggle with placing things or moving lines etc, use the direction keys on your keyboard to lock to either: blue (up or down), red (right), green (left) and to use end points or lines in your model to move to. Take a look at: Window> Preferences> Shortcuts to get a better idea of these things.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby SchreiberBike » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:08 am

It's possible to select a single point with the move tool and move it.

I wish I had learned that when I was a beginner.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Gaieus » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:27 am

SchreiberBike wrote:It's possible to select a single point with the move tool and move it.

:thumb:
In addition to this: make sure nothing is (pre)selected when you do this - just click somewhere empty place to deselect anything that may have been selected before.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby watkins » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:30 am

Dear All,

When trying to start a rectangle, line etc with the first click coincident with one of the axes, I often find that inferencing won't work (the cursor cannot find the axis). I get over this by double clicking on the axis with the tape measure tool, creating a construction line co-linear with the axis. Inferencing then works.

A second tip concerns the scale tool. A little used option is entering dimensions rather than a scale factor. Draw a box 1000 mm on a side. Select all and then select the scale tool. Then enter 800mm,400mm,600mm in the VCB and the box will rescale exactly. This option is useful for turning circles/cylinders into ellipses/elliptical shapes with exact major and minor axes.

Kind regards,
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby skaught » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:13 pm

If you are going to export your model as a 2D jpg image, try going into the options tab on your exporting window and set the image size to a width of 3000.


That way when you Resample to a higher resolution in photoshop or whatever your image looks cleaner.

ps: go to the help menu and watch every video tutorial you can!!!
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Anssi » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:47 pm

skaught wrote:If you are going to export your model as a 2D jpg image, try going into the options tab on your exporting window and set the image size to a width of 3000.
That way when you Resample to a higher resolution in photoshop or whatever your image looks cleaner.

I would put this quite the other way round:
The best looking 2D image exports (jpg, png, tif)are exported this way:
- in the export options (button in the right bottom area of the Export File dialog box) turn OFF antialiasing
- calculate how big an image you need for printing, and export a larger (1.5...3x in pixel width)image than you need. The maximum is 9999 x 9999 pixels
- resize the image in Photoshop (or your favourite image editor) using a good downsampling algorithm, like Bicubic in Photoshop.

This gives much better antialiasing than SU is capable of, and kills off some of the ugly moiré that often appears with tile, brick and other repeating textures exported from SU

With Antialiasing on, image export from SU usually crashes or freezes for most people at around 3000 pixels or bigger. This is a known bug/memory issue.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby mxabucknell » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:07 pm

I don't know if this has been raised before, but my tip would most certainly have to be...

Intersect with model is under the edit menu.

If I had known this when I started sketchup, I would have been making cooler models faster
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How do I save the component I made in my general component l

Postby flo » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:42 pm

My tip would be:
"If you are going to use more than one copy of an item in the model make it a component,

Fine-Now that I made a component I'd like it to be available to me in my component list whenever I open a new sketchup. Is this possible?
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby solo » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:52 pm

Yes, right click and save as .... in a folder within your component library.
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby d.alexnine » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:16 pm

Just in case this has not been brought up more than three or four times;
take the time out and watch basecamp vids....
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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Kenny » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:06 pm

To deselect you can use ctrl-T as well as clicking in white space. I use this a lot to avoid zooming out to get white space to click in.

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Re: What's your beginners tip?

Postby Click Draw » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:15 pm

One thing is while learning is to have a definate project to draw. Don't just sit in front of the computer and figure out what you can draw. Say your gonna build a basic house, and start drawing. Learn keyboard shortcuts as much as possible and also learn what holding ctrl,shift,etc will do when you are performing a function like copying. (like may functions, this is ONE way) To copy, select the object,click on a part of the object(prefferrably a corner of major part of the object),then,before you move the mouse, click the ctrl button, then move your new copy. Hope that makes sense...
Have fun like Solo says....very true.
Cheers, Jeff
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