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FlexTools and Profile Builder

Postby SiPieFace » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:30 pm

I'm looking to purchase a couple of plug-ins that will speed up my work flow considerably.

Profile Builder looks ideal for the creation of multi-layered external and internal walls but it doesn't create parametric holes. I also love the flexibility of FlexTools (along with the WallCuter plugin) and what this has to offer.

An ideal situation would be if Wall Cutter and/or FlexTools (windows/doors) would cut parametric holes (and be adjustable on the fly) within Profile Builder multi-layered walls.

Has anyone tried this and had any success?
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Re: FlexTools and Profile Builder

Postby pilou » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:37 pm

Maybe try also Flextools! ;)

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Re: FlexTools and Profile Builder

Postby SiPieFace » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:08 pm

That is genuinely awesome. This could be a game changer for me. One last question is whether anyone has tried them in conjunction with Skalp? If I could model like this and output drawings with hatching on sections this would solve all of my current modelling issues.
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Re: FlexTools and Profile Builder

Postby juju » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:13 pm

SiPieFace wrote:One last question is whether anyone has tried them in conjunction with Skalp?

It works.
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Re: FlexTools and Profile Builder

Postby gameongrant » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:20 pm

I've found it works in theory but never the way I want it to. If you alter your wall (i.e. path) everything resets and you have to recut all the components again. I also group all my windows and doors which also creates problems with the cutting tool and it doesn't work. I'm sure you can get them to play better but it'll mean altering my workflow. I currently use Mike brightman's and it just doesn't work. I, like yourself would like to know the best method for using both tools for multilayered walls in architecture.
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Re: FlexTools and Profile Builder

Postby pilou » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:52 pm

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Re: FlexTools and Profile Builder

Postby SiPieFace » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:58 pm

gameongrant wrote:I've found it works in theory but never the way I want it to. If you alter your wall (i.e. path) everything resets and you have to recut all the components again. I also group all my windows and doors which also creates problems with the cutting tool and it doesn't work. I'm sure you can get them to play better but it'll mean altering my workflow. I currently use Mike brightman's and it just doesn't work. I, like yourself would like to know the best method for using both tools for multilayered walls in architecture.

What combo of plugins do you use? What's the basis of your workflow?

I've never had a look at the Condoc's method as I've never considered using SU right through the process (inception to completion), it's always been used for conceptual design and massing only then into AutoCAD or Revit. But now I'd like to go SU for the lot but I need some elements of parametric modelling in my workflow or there's just too much manual time-consuming 'dumb' modelling work required to get it all done and which my fees won't cover.

The search for suitable plug-ins comes from necessity and because of the total lack of interest by Trimble in adding genuine BIM (and parametric) features to SU.
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Re: FlexTools and Profile Builder

Postby pilou » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:05 am

Parametric Modeling but you must have some learning! ;)

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Re: FlexTools and Profile Builder

Postby SiPieFace » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:39 am

I'm an architect so my workflow and requirement for parametric modelling features within my software of choice relates to that. I need windows/doors to embed into walls and be adjustable on the fly and readjust to suit. Flex Tools appears to do this. I'd like to be able to create parametrically adjustable multi-layered walls (and floors) and Profile Builder appears to do the walls part at least. I need hatching for construction docs and Skalp does that but I need them all to work together.

I'd also like to able to parametrically tag windows, doors etc and generate linked schedules from these tags but have no idea if this is even possible in SU or LO......If SU had just 10% of the useful elements of Revit but retained it's user friendliness and organic nature it'd be all things to all architectural types......But we're still waiting Trimble.
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Re: FlexTools and Profile Builder

Postby nowarch » Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:38 pm

SiPieFace wrote:I'm an architect so my workflow and requirement for parametric modelling features within my software of choice relates to that. I need windows/doors to embed into walls and be adjustable on the fly and readjust to suit. Flex Tools appears to do this. I'd like to be able to create parametrically adjustable multi-layered walls (and floors) and Profile Builder appears to do the walls part at least. I need hatching for construction docs and Skalp does that but I need them all to work together.

I'd also like to able to parametrically tag windows, doors etc and generate linked schedules from these tags but have no idea if this is even possible in SU or LO......If SU had just 10% of the useful elements of Revit but retained it's user friendliness and organic nature it'd be all things to all architectural types......But we're still waiting Trimble.




Hi there. Well, it's been a long time since this was posted but i think now we can actually find some answers or at least, updates.

I`m also an architect trying desperately to compose a "perfect" worflow for Architectural Drawings and documentations and there`s a bunch of pluggins able to solve this issues whether is a full bim environment or not, the question is always more about the "scale" of the contracts or what you are looking to represent in the project.

So I`m absolutely sure that SU can today work in a Bim envirorment as far as you would need to. And yes, that`s not an easy path, but far distant difficult and "heavy" as Revit etc. I agree many of these features could come native in SU, but maybe this complexity would turn it into an expensive choice like the others. So this balance of SU view over modeling and than project and document is the way that makes it so valuable not in terms of cost (because this is what makes it still more interesting) but in simplicity, possibilities and an absolute friendly dashboard for its price, like said.

1001 bit tools and many others. PlusSpec for example is amazing and solves many things all alone but I definitely don't agree with a pluggin platform costing way more than the software itself. Personally, there's totally non sense. Here in Brasil, there's a pluggin called Gabster and others doing the same. Amazing features for incredible cost.

So I think the way out is to elaborate this "dream" dashboard. Although it will take some time and effort at first, when the learning curve process and acclimatization get overcomed than the whole thing will gonna work perfectly
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