Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

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Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby fredo6 » Tue May 17, 2016 12:57 pm

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Animator supports the generation of Videos wherever you can play an animation interactively. By default, there is NO rendering (Natural mode).

Animator is designed to support the integration with Rendering software designed for Sketchup with 2 methods:

1) DIRECT INTEGRATION: Animator calls the Rendering software, which should expose a few APIs. This method has the benefit that most video generation parameters are specified in Animator (frame rate, dimensions, video formats, portion of the animation, etc...). Users will simply select the Rendering method if it is installed and compatible with Animator
Animator Generation of Video rendering methods.png

This requires however some validation work with me, as I left flexibility to the APIs to be supported by the rendering software.
The technical specifications are described in the following document

Animator - Integration with Render Software - v1.0 - 31 Mar 16.pdf


2) REVERSE INTEGRATION: The Rendering Software calls Animator, it is already done for some Animation or Physics plugins (like SketchyPhysics). All parameters are thus defined in the Rendering software. Animator exposes an API allowing an external program to:
  • Select the animation unit to be rendered
  • instantiate the animation at any specified time
This method does NOT require interaction with me.
The technical specifications of the Animator API are described in the following document:

Animator - API for Render Software - v1.1 - 31 Mar 16.pdf
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Re: Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby tkeepers » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:55 pm

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE THIS COMPARABLE WITH vRAY?

tHANKS!
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Re: Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby Rich O Brien » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:39 pm

tkeepers wrote:CAN SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE THIS COMPARABLE WITH vRAY?

tHANKS!


I'm sure they'll hear you
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Re: Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby Spartipilo » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:15 pm

The Vray compatibility can be 'worked around' if you have a lot of patience. You can make all the animation in Animator, then move frame by frame adding a new SketchUp Scene, and adjust fix the SketchUp scene transition duration to match the frame duration. You'll get 20-30 scenes per animation second, but at least it will work.

Fredo, is there a way to add a Frame-To-Scene action to transform (in an one-way direction) the frames with the elements positions into SketchUp Scenes in order to use them as Frames for vRay?
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Re: Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby Danbru » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:50 pm

I use Maxwell Render Plugin, is there a way I can render my animations using it?
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Re: Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby fredo6 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:48 pm

Danbru wrote:I use Maxwell Render Plugin, is there a way I can render my animations using it?
Thanks for everything

Unfortunately, Maxwell is not supported. I don't even know who to contact there and I am not sure they would be interested in the integration as I don't see Animation to be a popular demand in Sketchup actually.

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Re: Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby Danbru » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:32 am

Hey, Fredo!
Thanks for the quickly reply.
I see, so I decided to install Thea Render for my animations,
I installed the studio and the plugin but the "render tab" in the "generation of video" window wont appear. :(
What could be going wrong?
Thanks, your plugins are awesome btw! :)
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Re: Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby applemango85 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:18 pm

So I have a question (probably asked before)

Which rendering programs (plugins for sketchup or standalone rendered) are compatible with animator as of now?

Also out of this list of renderers which works best (in terms of looks, ease of use and glitches)


I own vray for sketchup but at the moment it doesn’t sound like it has the best compatibility with animator. I don’t know if sketchup users have one renderer for stills and another for animation as every rendering software has their individual strengths
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Re: Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby fredo6 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:21 pm

applemango85 wrote:So I have a question (probably asked before)

Which rendering programs (plugins for sketchup or standalone rendered) are compatible with animator as of now?

Also out of this list of renderers which works best (in terms of looks, ease of use and glitches)


I own vray for sketchup but at the moment it doesn’t sound like it has the best compatibility with animator. I don’t know if sketchup users have one renderer for stills and another for animation as every rendering software has their individual strengths

The best compatibility is with Thea (bi-direction) and AmbientOcclusion Ex and SketchFX Ex (but they are specialized).
Vray is supported but not stable with version 3.6. And I don't really have support.

In general, Animator is so confidential in terms of usage that I don't think Renderer Software companies care too much. Most likely, this is also true for other animation plugins for Sketchup.

Now, whether for Animation or for still rendering, it's up to you to judge what is the best render program. Rendering an animation is just rendering each individual image of the animated sequence.

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Re: Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby applemango85 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:08 pm

Thanks fredo

Though with the release of Thea version 2 it may be all change

I think it was listed somewhere that twilight render pro was compactable as well - what’s your opinion on the results from that renderer?

I thought AmbientOcclusion was a straight so so renderer - what’s specialised about it.

Once again it’s a great plugin
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Re: Animator and Rendering Software (for developers)

Postby fredo6 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:26 pm

applemango85 wrote:Though with the release of Thea version 2 it may be all change

I think it was listed somewhere that twilight render pro was compactable as well - what’s your opinion on the results from that renderer?

I thought AmbientOcclusion was a straight so so renderer - what’s specialised about it.

Once again it’s a great plugin

I am not comparing rendering software, which I don't really know in detail, but just their stability with Animator. Twilight works as well, but may sometimes hang. AmbientOcclusion is very stable, but it seems to me that it does not have all the bells and whistles that others have (but maybe that's because I am not an expert in rendering).

I'll try to check with Thea 2.x when I have time.

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