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by jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:28 pm
Beta 0.3.1 Changelog:- Fixed scattering on surfaces with holes
- Optimized RAM usage when scattering lots and lots of items
- Hidden geometry is now discarded
- Fixed focus issues on Sketchup 2016
- The expanded/collapsed state of the dialog rollouts is now saved
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by solo » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:38 pm
I'm still having issues with holes. holes.jpg
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by jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:40 pm
Can you send me that file?
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by solo » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:42 pm
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by jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:49 pm
I'm not seeing that 
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by cotty » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:55 pm
For me, it looks like this (0.3.0)... holes_solo.JPG
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by jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:07 pm
cotty wrote:For me, it looks like this (0.3.0)...
Can you try on 0.3.1 ?
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by cotty » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:11 pm
I'm not able to download it, it's so slow that my browser cancelled the download several times... (After I got it, I will try) skattererror.JPG
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by fivebythree » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:30 pm
Menu items have disappeared...
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by eliotnz » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:10 pm
Seems to have worked perfectly this end. All menu items accounted for and deals with holes much, much better. Great update
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by jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:17 pm
Cotty > Can you retry to download? I modified the hosting of the files
fivebythree > Do you experience this with Skatter only? Could you try to uninstall and reinstall Skatter?
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by cotty » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:35 pm
jiminy-billy-bob wrote:Cotty > Can you retry to download? I modified the hosting of the files
Thank you for looking into this. I can see the changed file source, but the download starts and the speed is reduced to 0 kb/s in some steps and stops with an error after some minutes... skattererror2.jpg
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by dan16198899 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:22 am
Hi, I was making some test with holes, and I included a slope, and there are some empty spaces in it, I used one of the libraries, I changed some values without luck. I´ve installed version 0.3.1
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by jiminy-billy-bob » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:13 am
Could you share the model? Thanks
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by plot-paris » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:44 pm
Solo's model seems to be working fine for me...
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by dan16198899 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:55 pm
jiminy-billy-bob wrote:Could you share the model? Thanks
Yes, no problem, I edited my post with the file in it.
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by solo » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:59 pm
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by jiminy-billy-bob » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:59 pm
Thanks!
Well, the issue is simply that the slope is too steep. You can either reduce the steepness of the slope, or enter a smaller spacing value.
Keep in mind that for now there is only vertical projection. If you look from above, that slope is actually pretty small compared to its real size. That's why there are holes : Too few items for the size of the surface of the slope.
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by solo » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:02 pm
Funny thing, I retested the noles scene today and it works perfectly, Gremlins. holes.jpg
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by krokaa » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:54 pm
Are the proxies not bound to the group it’s scattered on? Having trouble hiding it, I also tried to put it in a layer and hide it with no luck. This is a problem in my workflow when I’m working on large areas.
I wish the “Render only” stays preselected. I forgot to check it many times with the result of mayor crash caused by memory overload. I also whish the select arrow would be default when I’m outside of the Skatter menu. Seems like it goes to windows courser as a default.
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by Pixero » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:35 pm
krokaa wrote:I wish the “Render only” stays preselected.
I agree.
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by valerostudio » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:39 pm
Solo's file works for me also, tried in 2016 with Thea and 2015 with VRay.
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by jiminy-billy-bob » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:06 pm
krokaa wrote:Are the proxies not bound to the group it’s scattered on? Having trouble hiding it, I also tried to put it in a layer and hide it with no luck. This is a problem in my workflow when I’m working on large areas.
I won't bound them to the surfaces, as you can have as many surfaces as you want (or curves, or even Points Sets). But I will add the ability to bound a "Render only" setup to a layer. krokaa wrote:I wish the “Render only” stays preselected. I forgot to check it many times with the result of mayor crash caused by memory overload.
Ok, I will have its state saved. So if it's checked, it'll be checked next time you open Skatter. And the other way around. krokaa wrote:I also whish the select arrow would be default when I’m outside of the Skatter menu. Seems like it goes to windows courser as a default.
Unfortunatly that's not possible. To display the preview in the viewport, I need to activate a custom tool. I can't display the preview if any other tool is activated. That's just how the Sketchup API works.
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by cotty » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:49 am
jiminy-billy-bob wrote:cotty wrote:For me, it looks like this (0.3.0)...
Can you try on 0.3.1 ?
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by krokaa » Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:55 pm
Maybe its possible already but I wish I could group scatters and save them to the library for later use. In testing I found that I sometimes have 6-10 scatters on one surface and when the result is god I want to keep it as a group. Later it would be neat with a possibility to export that as a pack for sharing or migration. What about a translation falloff? I’m having great fun using your Skatter as a primitive particle system and I can see a lot of possibilities there. Rain, falling snow, sparks, sandstorms and so on. I guess your to do list is getting longer every day. Skatter for me is after Thea Render the most useful tool for Sketchup ever for the visual stuff. Thanks again. 
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