Simple Artisan examples collection

Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby john2 » Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:22 am



This is really awesome. Can you explain the procedure for making this please? :thumb:
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Hieru » Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:37 am

The modelling stages illustrated are pretty straightforward. Is there a particular stage you don't understand?
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby baz » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:42 pm

john2 wrote:


This is really awesome. Can you explain the procedure for making this please? :thumb:

Yes it is quite awesome. Perhaps you could tell us which parts of the 'procedure' that you are wanting?
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby john2 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:15 pm

Hexagonal chain onwards, it was rotated and copied around a central axis,. Then what happened? You did a joint push pull I suppose, but how did the final outcome, the bend occur?
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby olishea » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:01 pm

Free Form Deformation plugin. FFD. A classic.

Could also do it with a couple of other plugins.

There are some other similar things on this thread:

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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:54 pm

Click image....



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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby mitcorb » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:04 pm

Very nice, Rich:
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Box » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:19 am

I was just fiddling with some ideas while eating lunch and thought it might fit this thread.

I wanted a solid egg shape with pulled legs.
I can make it in glass, I just wanted to see if I could model and effectively show it.
So a very quick model, and an equally quick render.
The whole thing could have been done in a 30min challenge.

So here's the proxy and the artisan result.
Egg proxy.JPG

And a very fast Twilight render.
Eggs0.JPG
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby pilou » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:23 am

Philippe Stark revival! :)
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby cotty » Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:20 am

Nice example, Box!
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby panixia » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:25 pm

really nice.. just try to achieve a bit cleaner topology in the bottom to avoid those little smoothing artifacts.. :thumb:
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Box » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:39 pm

I'm not quite sure which artifacts you mean but I deliberately wanted to create the stretch you get when you pull hot glass.
I took this another step further and made the full Faberge/Stark lemon juicer with a turned wood base. The glass picks up the wood texture nicely.
The client specifically asked for something earthy with a modern feel and mentioned both Faberge and Stark and then threw in "but we love oriental Lacquer-ware". They looked at this today and said when can we have it.
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Rich O Brien » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:42 pm

wow!

can you wing me the proxy?
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Box » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:53 pm

If by the proxy you mean the rough before subdivide and smooth, No, fraid not, I'm far too casual to keep that. If I don't like something I start again or go back. Once it's working I move ahead so all I have is the model.
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Rich O Brien » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:40 pm

it's ok. i just wanted to have a doodle....

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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby panixia » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:04 pm

Box wrote:I'm not quite sure which artifacts you mean

i mean the subdivision artifacts between the legs and the base wich usually can be simply avoided doing exactly what rich did with those control loops..
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby cotty » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:29 pm

panixia wrote:i mean the subdivision artifacts between the legs and the base wich usually can be simply avoided doing exactly what rich did with those control loops..


He did this intentionally...

Box wrote: I deliberately wanted to create the stretch you get when you pull hot glass


I think he reached a realistic effect in this special case. :thumb:
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Box » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:45 am

Thanks Cotty, Yes, I'm fully aware of how to make the faces flat or regular. That's not what I wanted, so they aren't Artifacts they are design decisions.
Look at the shape you get when you pull a spoon out of thick honey, it's a fluid solid and behaves in a very particular way. The surface tension isn't uniform so you get stretching.
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby solo » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:55 am

Rich O Brien wrote:it's ok. i just wanted to have a doodle....

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Blender?
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby pilou » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:03 am

Ultra nice! :fro:
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby panixia » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:07 pm

Box wrote:Thanks Cotty, Yes, I'm fully aware of how to make the faces flat or regular. That's not what I wanted, so they aren't Artifacts they are design decisions.
Look at the shape you get when you pull a spoon out of thick honey, it's a fluid solid and behaves in a very particular way. The surface tension isn't uniform so you get stretching.

ok if it's intentional and you are happy with thw result that's fine :thumb:
i was only pointing it in case you did'nt know of the control loops stuff, when you know what you are doing, "rules" can be broke here and there :enlight:
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Hieru » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:40 am

panixia wrote:i was only pointing it in case you did'nt know of the control loops stuff, when you know what you are doing, "rules" can be broke here and there :enlight:

Makes sense to me.

Molten glass has a much greater surface tension than something like honey, so whilst you will get deformation when pulling away gathers of glass, flat surfaces will tend to remain pretty even.

If I was modelling this I would add control loops and then move their position to allow for varying degrees of deformation/stretch.

I'd forget about actually making it in glass as it would be an absolute nightmare. Pulling multiple gathers off the plate whilst maintaining it's shape is one thing, but then adding in a pre-blown centre piece and twisting the gathers before everything collapses is insane....and then you'll have to keep everything in place whilst reheating the plate so that it will form-fit with the wood.....aaaarghhhh!!!!
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Box » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:51 am

Obviously my 35 years of working with molten glass are meaningless.
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Rich O Brien » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:40 pm

solo wrote:Blender?


yes, and rendered using freestyle edges
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Hieru » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:41 pm

Box wrote:Obviously my 35 years of working with molten glass are meaningless.

Pretty sure I didn't say that or give cause for you to take offence.

If you aren't bothered about the topology and the model/render works for your purposes, then you've done a good job. I was just offering some friendly advice on how you could improve the model next time around.

And just because I can see the difficulty in making the design in reality, it doesn't follow that I think you don't know what you are doing and you are not up to doing the job.
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby Box » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:05 pm

I must have a better look at Blender when I have time.
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby panixia » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:45 am

quadface/vertextools training.. work in progress.. 8-)
any good reference for ear topology?

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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby baz » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:08 pm

panixia wrote:quadface/ 8-)
any good reference for ear topology?


Pardon, could you say that again?
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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby olishea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:28 pm

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Re: Simple Artisan examples collection

Postby baz » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:58 pm

Ah...thanks Oli, I woz a bit sarcastic, as in simple aritsan examples. Go for it tho, its educational :)
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