[Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.5a - 17 Sep 21

[Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.5a - 17 Sep 21

Postby fredo6 » Mon May 31, 2021 10:21 pm

The information on LordOfTheToolbars is maintained on the Plugin Home Page of LordOfTheToolbars. This is also where you can download the RBZ file.

REQUIREMENTS:
  • LibFredo6: v12.0a or above
  • Sketchup version: SU2017 and above
  • Platform: Windows and Mac OSX
  • Usage: Free for the time being
  • Expiration on: 31 Jan 2022

TO NEWCOMERS: If you land on this page and are unfamiliar with how to install Sketchup Extensions such as LibFredo6 or how to register on Sketchucation, please watch this video or refer to the Plugin page of LibFredo6.



LordOfTheToolbars (LOTT) is a set of tools helping you to configure your SketchUp workspace, especially when you have a lot of Toolbars.

The main features are
  • Single toolbar (Vignette Stripe) to access any command
  • Master List of all toolbars, extensions and native
  • History of commands, with Fast Navigation
  • Custom toolbars, mixing native and plugin icons
  • Personal Commands (document, folder, menu, ruby script)
  • CleanScreen mode, hiding most visual elements
  • Quick Finder, to search among icons and menus
  • Backup, Import and Export of configuration

LOTT - Example 1.png


LordOfTheToolbars - toolbar.png


Credit: all toolbar icons and button images by JClements





NO user manual for the time being. Have a look at the video and Quick Start section at the plugin page.



1) LordOfTheToolbars
A comprehensive coverage of the main features of LOTT by TutorialsUp


2) LordOfTheToolbars - Overview
A quick introduction to the main features of LOTT


3) LordOfTheToolbars - Vignette Stripe
A detailed presentation of the Vignette Stripe and its configuration


4) LordOfTheToolbars - Command History
A detailed presentation of the functionality related to the history of last commands executed
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars (not yet published)

Postby rv1974 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:06 am

At last some tool to clean these Stables of Augeas.
Wow: includes import\export, command search ("active type"), repeat last command.. :shock:
Any plans for right click menu as well?
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars (not yet published)

Postby pbacot » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:06 am

Looks wonderful Fredo. (Though I don't keep enough icons active to use it.)
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars (not yet published)

Postby Dav_ID » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:42 am

Bravo Fredo !
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars (not yet published)

Postby fredo6 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:00 pm

rv1974 wrote:
Any plans for right click menu as well?

For native commands, like explode, hide, ..., there are special icons defined which you can put in palettes.

For others, coming from plugins, this is supported on Windows. You define a Personal Command pointing to the menu, assign it an icon, and it becomes a command icon which can be inserted in palettes or custom toolbars.
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars (not yet published)

Postby Box » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:18 pm

Looking good Fredo.
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars (not yet published)

Postby rv1974 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:45 pm

fredo6 wrote:
rv1974 wrote:
Any plans for right click menu as well?

For native commands, like explode, hide, ..., there are special icons defined which you can put in palettes.

For others, coming from plugins, this is supported on Windows. You define a Personal Command pointing to the menu, assign it an icon, and it becomes a command icon which can be inserted in palettes or custom toolbars.

Maybe I'm not clear enough.. I'm talking about right click menu SU have (see attached I found on Web, mine is 3 times longer). Just because every plugin author thinks its a good idea to add his new entity and there's still no RCM editor (Trimble is too busy playing with logos) -RCM (its size and order) got out of control.
If only your upcoming plugin could edit RCM as well...
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars (not yet published)

Postby Mike Lucey » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:34 am

Well done Fredo.

This will bring some sanity to the heavy duty users that are struggling with diminishing screen real-estate. I've only one question. Do you know something we don't? ;)

Do you know something.jpeg


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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars (not yet published)

Postby fredo6 » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:25 am

Mike Lucey wrote:I've only one question. Do you know something we don't? ;)

I always care about future compatibility...
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars (not yet published)

Postby Mike Lucey » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:45 am

Fredo, I laughed when I saw your cursor hovering over 2091 for a second. I took the bait. Alas all here will be long gone by the time 2091 comes. I was at my local Planning Department yesterday lodging a planning application. I got talking to one of the staff and they proudly directed me to a lovely model of Ennis (my town) showing a whole load to new municipal projects that are in the pipeline. I was impressed to say the least. I then asked about the time line ..... the guy said it was planned for 2040! I said maybe my grandchildren should be looking at the model! I think he got my point.
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars (not yet published)

Postby rv1974 » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:29 am

A coward question from June 2021 (in 2091 I guess it'd be slightly less important for me): Will the tool let save the initial toolbar state before starting the carnival?
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3a - 02 Jun 21

Postby RLGL » Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:46 pm

WOW! :D
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3a - 02 Jun 21

Postby abcgsketch » Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:47 pm

Bravo Fredo!!

I was always needed this tool to keep my mental health with the evergrowing plugins and their palettes.
This little gem (better to say the Koh-I-Noor itself) with all the possible personalization possibilities is a huge help. I was watching the video with my mouth open discovering more and more and more features...

A big thank you, indeed!
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3a - 02 Jun 21

Postby rv1974 » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:12 am

Downloaded, first impressions- wow, huge step forward in quality of life. Many thanks Fredo!
A couple of things I noticed so far:
1. Clean mode with 2 displays.. It always starts on the left monitor. Could it start where SU currently is (on the right monitor in my case)
2. Command search. Could it, at least as option, pop-up (after shortcut) close to cursor and auto-disappear after needed command was chosen? Please take look:
https://youtu.be/TlGaB4DtGEw?t=115 @1.55
Naturally user is focused in cursor, so its way more comfortable to work as shown in video.
3. Search by fragment of the name works consistently well if "*" is used: *UV will show SketchUV, while UV alone- will not. May it be tweaked?
4. Command search. Could lastly chosen be suggested firstly if the same search was typed again?
5. Repeat last command. Another plugin author created similar tool and made one genius thing- he somehow assigned double space bar shortcut to it. Unfortunately his plugin could not be used because it greys out RC menu :) So could you implement double spacebar idea in your plugin?
6. Another idea: Could command search show user's shortcuts next to suggested commands?
Thanks for attention
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3a - 02 Jun 21

Postby rv1974 » Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:09 pm

First problem: at some I've lost this 'vignette stripe'. I tried everything: reset factory,
uninstall-reinstall plugin+fredolib- nothing. BTW no problems in ruby console. Trying to get it via shortcut flashes red sand clock for a fraction of second. Any idea how to get it back :?:
P.S. I don't know if its related, single time only the toolbars didn't got back after 'clean mode'- I just restarted the program.
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3a - 02 Jun 21

Postby fredo6 » Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:14 pm

rv1974 wrote:First problem: at some I've lost this 'vignette stripe'. I tried everything: reset factory,
uninstall-reinstall plugin+fredolib- nothing. BTW no problems in ruby console. Trying to get it via shortcut flashes red sand clock for a fraction of second. Any idea how to get it back :?:
P.S. I don't know if its related, single time only the toolbars didn't got back after 'clean mode'- I just restarted the program.


There is a menu entry for toggling the visibility of the Vignette Stripe. Otherwise, it might be off screen, in which case I don't have an elegant solution because the Vignette Stripe remembers its position. Possibily, you may have to go to the folder

C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Local\LIBFREDO6_DATA_Dir\Vaults

In this folder there are files with name LibFredo6_HtmlDialog_SU2020_RT125.dat, one for each version of Sketchup and Scale factor (above SU2020 and scale 1.25). This is where the configuration of each dialog is stored. If you delete the file, then you reset the position of ALL dialogs, including the vignette stripe.

Do you have multiple screen?
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3a - 02 Jun 21

Postby rv1974 » Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:03 pm

Do you have multiple screen?

yes,dual screen (see p.1 2 posts above). I'll play with vaults, thanks for suggestion!
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3c - 03 Jun 21

Postby fredo6 » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:40 pm

NEW RELEASE: LordOfTheToolbars v1.3c - 03 Jun 21

Requirements
  • LibFredo6: v11.8a or above
  • Sketchup version: SU2017 and above

LordOfTheToolbars 1.3c is a maintenance release with a first batch of bug fixing and adjustments, especially
  • Menu for Vignette Stripe reset position in case it is lost
  • Keep palettes within Sketchup window horizontally when dropped down

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Home Page of LordOfTheToolbars for information and Download.

Main post of this LordOfTheToolbars thread.
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3c - 03 Jun 21

Postby kakashi66 » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:48 pm

Another piece of quality coding by Fredo. I'm looking forward to trying it especially if I can put a group of icons on might right hand screen.

TBH I'm surprised as sketchup developed, no one thought about control toolbars like the tray idea. If I could organise plugins by maker in a tray I'd be a happy camper.
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3c - 03 Jun 21

Postby rv1974 » Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:27 am

I thought about "Fredo tray" too. It could include standard elements like tags, entity info etc plus new ones - vignette,LOTT toolbar,history and optionally command search (I still would prefer it glued to cursor though).
Edit: BTW the update didn't bring vignette back, I solved it by deletig volts files- thank you for solution!
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3e - 04 Jun 21

Postby rv1974 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:18 am

I'd prefer to see one-line (per command) search results instead of two. When command name is too popular user gets a mile-long results list which one line design could cut in half. Plus it's way easier to find the needed command.
P.S. Could history color setting by applied to command search as well? It'd aestetically unify plugin elements (and kill this nasty white where its possible)
Thanks
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3e - 04 Jun 21

Postby fredo6 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:23 pm

rv1974 wrote:I'd prefer to see one-line (per command) search results instead of two. When command name is too popular user gets a mile-long results list which one line design could cut in half. Plus it's way easier to find the needed command.
P.S. Could history color setting by applied to command search as well? It'd aestetically unify plugin elements (and kill this nasty white where its possible)
Thanks

Each item is on a single line. But if the text is too long for the width of the dialog, it wraps to the next line

LOTT - Minifind.png
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3e - 04 Jun 21

Postby makidoben » Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:48 pm

Usage: Free for the time being
What price would we be looking at if this plugin is going to be a cost after Expiration on: 31 Jul 2021... or would it still be free with a upgrade.
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3e - 04 Jun 21

Postby rv1974 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:57 pm

fredo6 wrote:Each item is on a single line. But if the text is too long for the width of the dialog, it wraps to the next line

Indeed, I squeezed the widget too much. thank you
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3e - 04 Jun 21

Postby fredo6 » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:35 pm

makidoben wrote:Usage: Free for the time being
What price would we be looking at if this plugin is going to be a cost after Expiration on: 31 Jul 2021... or would it still be free with a upgrade.

31 Jul 22 is just a technical date. I now try to put a limit to make sure users migrates to the latest versions, which ease the maintenance for me.

I have not decided whether and when LOTT would become a paid plugin. In any case, it should no more than $7 for a perpetual license, 3 seats, with a 30 days free trial period.
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3e - 04 Jun 21

Postby rv1974 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:03 am

Fredo please, if possible, implementtoolbars dropping out in upward direction. I'd like to keep the vignette at the bottom thus I need the custom toolbars to pop-UP upward. For bigger screens its better solution. Thank you.
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3e - 04 Jun 21

Postby PedroE » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:19 pm

Hello, I would like to make a suggestion and that is that each vignette could have a keyboard shortcut to have quick access to each vignette instead of cycling them, and if it were possible that you appear under the mouse like wacom toolbars. Thanks for sharing, you are a machine :)
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3e - 04 Jun 21

Postby PedroE » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:29 pm

Solid tools are missed
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3e - 04 Jun 21

Postby RLGL » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:41 am

Ver 1.3e residing in the SU release 21.1.279 dated June 8 on Win 10

First:
As previously mentioned Solid Tools is MIA.

Second:
Entity Information panel does not open from my Custom tray, for some strange reason it pops out in the default tray (not used). The other panels (components etc) open from my custom panels.
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Re: [Plugin] LordOfTheToolbars - v1.3e - 04 Jun 21

Postby abcgsketch » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:07 pm

fredo6 wrote:I have not decided whether and when LOTT would become a paid plugin. In any case, it should no more than $7 for a perpetual license, 3 seats, with a 30 days free trial period.


I would say 7$ is much more than a generous offer for such a necessary and powerful plugin!
I would be happy to contribute.
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