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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby alsomar » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:24 pm

Box wrote:Somewhat reminiscent of Priscilla queen of the desert......

Anyway it's a good refecence, isn't it? :)
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Box » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:52 pm

That's the one!
Chris of the desert isn't quite the same somehow....
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby pilou » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:53 pm

So funny! :fro:

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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Box » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:39 am

Party Time!
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby ntxdave » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:37 pm

Box, that is really intriguing! Can that be combined with other animations? As an example, could you rotate the base and streamers at the same time as the animation you did?

I do car wash equipment and the brushes are a challenge. When the brush is not in action, the cloth strips just hang down when they go into action, they fly out somewhat similar to your animation except that the brush rotates and the pieces stand out similar to your animation and spin around as well.

Watching the thing you guys are doing with this plugin make me wonder it it could also be used to produce some water effects by using the same techniques but with a water texture instead of cloth. If not, maybe this could be Anton's next challenge (developing a plugin for presenting water in some manners similar o this plugin).
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby HornOxx » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:47 pm

Box wrote:Party Time!
:o :o astonishment time :D :D
just WOW !!! You're taking it to a new cool level :thumb: :D
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby HornOxx » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:03 pm

just another test - here I condensed(?) the clothes surface by giving it a wavy shape first to receive more cloth materia density for more "crumpled" cloth on my collider... (what a complicated sentence :D )
I forgot to mention that I copied the final drop state of the cloth into a new skup instance, deleted the entire surface to get only the frame line with which I produced a follow-me figure to simulate a cloth border with thickness ...
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby huckrorick » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:07 am

I don't know if I'll have time to do a lot with this, but I just bought it because watching what people have done with it, or just playing with it, is more fun than the movies.
Great work Anton.

Can you post something that explains a bit of how it works? What are the factors that influence the simulation?

I was imagining using it in the design of tent structures and hanging structures. Knowing how it works would help in understanding how to use it and how good it would be for such structures.

Also, the "end" state would be most important in this case.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Box » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:49 am

ntxdave wrote:Can that be combined with other animations? As an example, could you rotate the base and streamers at the same time as the animation you did?

You probably could but you would need some serious computing power. I edited my gif to give it some speed, here it is in real time on my ancient PC, notice how it stops when I orbit.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby alsomar » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:17 am

I tried to combine animations from SketchUp and ClockWorks with a rendered pic made with Thea Render. I used Photoshop to put them all together into a video file. The bust model is from Three D Scans.

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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Hieru » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:44 am

Box wrote:...notice how it stops when I orbit.

Isn't that part of the functionality of the pugin (to prevent it from hanging up due to the extra computations required)?
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby chippwalters » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:57 pm

Just so everyone understands, Anton's plugin is not intended as an animation tool. Animating cloth is part of the simulation to achieve proper draping and is used in pretty much all cloth draping toolsets I know of.

So, if you've ever used Marvelous Designer, Blender, or even Poser, you'll find a similar workflow where you position the cloth and then let the affectors act on it (like gravity, wind, elasticity, density, etc..) until it comes to a final resting position (or before if you stop the simulation).

The animations seen above are just screen captures of the simulation as it happens. Sometimes, depending on the complexity of the simulation, the frames go by very slow-- and in those cases the screen capture video is later sped up. Hope that helps.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby alsomar » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:44 pm

chippwalters wrote:Just so everyone understands, Anton's plugin is not intended as an animation tool. Animating cloth is part of the simulation to achieve proper draping and is used in pretty much all cloth draping toolsets I know of.

So, if you've ever used Marvelous Designer, Blender, or even Poser, you'll find a similar workflow where you position the cloth and then let the affectors act on it (like gravity, wind, elasticity, density, etc..) until it comes to a final resting position (or before if you stop the simulation).

The animations seen above are just screen captures of the simulation as it happens. Sometimes, depending on the complexity of the simulation, the frames go by very slow-- and in those cases the screen capture video is later sped up. Hope that helps.
But it can generate animations! Once the simulation is done, you can export all the frames to files (like jpg, png, etc) and put them together into a video file. Have a look to the last video I've uploaded (a couple of posts above)
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby chippwalters » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:48 pm

Thank you Alejandro, I stand corrected!

Also, you can export frames as OBJ files for use in another program as well. Pretty snazzy.

Still, animations are not the primary use of this tool. It is certainly not at this time worked into any sort of animation workflow within SketchUp, which is understandable given it's nature.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Box » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:06 pm

Here's a bit of a mix with SUbD to make a rudimentary bed.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby smashor » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:36 pm

How can I create wrinkles? Like in a piece of cloth in a chair or bed, something like that
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Box » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:05 pm

smashor wrote:How can I create wrinkles? Like in a piece of cloth in a chair or bed, something like that

Have you looked at any of the tutorial videos or the user manual in the first post of the thread!?
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby smashor » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:27 pm

Box wrote:
smashor wrote:How can I create wrinkles? Like in a piece of cloth in a chair or bed, something like that

Have you looked at any of the tutorial videos or the user manual in the first post of the thread!?


yes, but they dont teach that...
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Box » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:29 pm

Ok then, explain where you are having a problem and attach your model so we can see what the problem might be.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby david harned » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:43 pm

Hi Anton, Dave Harned here, friend of Pete Stoppel. Congratulations on Clothworks; phenomenal piece of work!

I have two quick questions:
- I can't seem to figure out how to drape a cloth so that it tucks into crevices fully, like a slip cover falling down "into" a sofa. I suspect the solution is to form a basic slip cover as opposed to draping a flat cloth, but wanted to ask.
- Kind of related to that ... could you envision a way to use Clothworks to make ocean waves? I would kill for the ability to create realistic waves hitting a beach, but so far I can't seem to manage it in SU. I tried draping cloth over "humps" that I've "Skattered" over a surface, but I haven't quite been able to achieve what I'm trying to.

Happy for any feedback. Thank you again for creating Clothworks for our community! Dave
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:47 pm

The higher the resolution of the cloth the better the drape result. This does mean the simulation runs slower to compute the draping.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Hieru » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:12 pm

Box wrote:Here's a bit of a mix with SUbD to make a rudimentary bed.

Very cool. Are those dimples made using pins on the underside of the cloth?
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Box » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:13 pm

Hieru wrote: pins on the underside of the cloth?

not on the underside, right there on top, just with the pin layer turned off.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:13 pm

Pins have a falloff range based on there size.

Well worth playing around with the scale to get very interesting results and surprises.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks - 28 March 2018

Postby marvsweden » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:17 pm

Anton_S wrote:
marvsweden wrote:Purchased. It's going to be exciting using it.
I'm on Mac/SU2018 and the toggle UI window/button doesn't work. It shows up once but if I toggle it by hitting the button it never shows up again until i shut down and restart SU.

Thanks for an important report! I will fix this by as soon as tomorrow (if possible).


Also found that I have to activate license on each SU restart.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:20 pm

@mars

A fix for that on Mac should come next. It occurs when you shutdown a Mac.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby smashor » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:30 pm

I was trying to make something like this, both cloths, but I cant quite the wrinkles and I dont know how I could do it like the part next to the pillow, thats folded up

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/ ... a-Solteiro
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Anton_S » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:37 pm

smashor wrote:How can I create wrinkles? Like in a piece of cloth in a chair or bed, something like that

Drop cloth at an angle. Say, 60 degrees with the horizontal. Could produce wrinkles. Then apply loop subdivision and follow with a couple iterations of Laplacian smoothing to eliminte self-overlaps and of course better the result.

Edit: But yes, easy way to add waves and wrinkles will be added in the next release.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Anton_S » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:59 pm

david harned wrote:Hi Anton, Dave Harned here, friend of Pete Stoppel. Congratulations on Clothworks; phenomenal piece of work!

Thank you, Dave! This plugin needs improvement but overtime with a few releases it will be perfect.

david harned wrote:I can't seem to figure out how to drape a cloth so that it tucks into crevices fully, like a slip cover falling down "into" a sofa. I suspect the solution is to form a basic slip cover as opposed to draping a flat cloth, but wanted to ask.

Drop cloth at an angle with the horizontal, so that more surface are of the cloth covers the part being draped. That way there will be more cloth in an area. Another thing you can do is initially drop cloth with high stiffness and then change it to low stiffness. That way it will reach the corners.

david harned wrote:Kind of related to that ... could you envision a way to use Clothworks to make ocean waves? I would kill for the ability to create realistic waves hitting a beach, but so far I can't seem to manage it in SU. I tried draping cloth over "humps" that I've "Skattered" over a surface, but I haven't quite been able to achieve what I'm trying to.

It is not possible to do waves yet.

The demand for waves and wrinkles is high. It seems that waves and wrinkles are in the same area, so adding one could fulfill the other. I will include this functionality in one of the next releases, which could be used to add linear/radial wave/wrinkle effect to the cloth. Shouldn't be to difficult (if not simple) to code.
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Re: [Plugin] ClothWorks v1.1.0 - 31 March 2018

Postby Anton_S » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:03 pm

Box wrote:Here's a bit of a mix with SUbD to make a rudimentary bed.

Box... One word. Clever! Just clever!
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