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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby pbacot » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:22 pm

The extra inch is helpful when hanging sheet rock--two 4' high boards.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:51 am

The horizontal trim elements (frieze, band, skirt) are now interacting with the exterior window and door trim as one would expect:



When no trim is installed (wall to the right) the band board is cut at the opening(s) flush with the sheathing and cladding. When trim is installed the band board and skirt terminate at the edge of the window/door trim.

Little details really, but the devil is in the details.

Reminds me of the days working construction for a general contractor in Utah some 20 years ago. I was installing faux log siding on a high end residence and if our pieces butted up with a gap anymore than 1/32" he would make us pull it off and redo it (especially on the front of the house).
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby pilou » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:12 am

Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:24 am

pilou wrote:Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?


Please uninstall first, I think this is the safe bet, I've seen issues with installing over top of previous versions.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:27 am

Today was one of those days where I got seriously pulled sideways, so rather than jump back into the larger important items I put out a few small fires and some low hanging fruit, kind of needed a break anyways after working straight through the 4th.

Flat two and four panel doors, single and double options:



A slightly more contemporary look versus the more traditional six panel doors.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:39 am

Version 0.8.4c - 07.07.2018
- Horizontal trim elements terminate at window and door trim.
- Added the following door types: flat four panel, flat two panel (single and double).
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby Charlie__V » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:37 pm

medeek wrote:
pilou wrote:Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?


Please uninstall first, I think this is the safe bet, I've seen issues with installing over top of previous versions.


And re-start Sketchup after installing extension. (Seems necessary......perhaps no?)
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:07 pm

Charlie__V wrote:
medeek wrote:
pilou wrote:Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?


Please uninstall first, I think this is the safe bet, I've seen issues with installing over top of previous versions.


And re-start Sketchup after installing extension. (Seems necessary......perhaps no?)


If you entered your serial number for the first time then yes a restart of SketchUp is required.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:29 pm

Had a question on door hardware this morning.

I should point out that within the door install menu (and door edit menu) the user can pick between seven different styles of door hardware. Currently only Style1, Style2 and Style3 are active which means that the component (.skp) file exists in the components sub-folder.

If you want to add more hardware components, just name them (Style4, Style5, Style6 or Style7) and place them in the "components" sub-folder.

At some point I will probably move the door hardware into the "library" sub-folder and provide a better system for selecting and adding additional hardware within the global settings. The current system is limited and rather primitive.

Note that Style2 is a lever handle while Style1 is a typical doorknob. Style3 is a doorknob/deadbolt combo.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:39 pm

Just for curiosity sake I gave crown molding some more thought this morning and it quickly became apparent to me that interior trim is far more complicated than I originally thought.

The problem arises when you have a long ext. or int. wall that is adjacent to multiple rooms, where multiple walls tee into this wall. Some of these rooms may have crown molding and some may not.

To make this completely parametric would require some very serious logic.

Another option would be to decouple the crown molding from the wall panels and just make a separate tool for this function.

Option C would be just to leave this venue to other plugins like Profile Builder. The problem with this option is that with baseboard and chair rail the door and window openings would have to be manually removed.

For now I don't have an optimal solution for interior trim, I will need to give this some more thought.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:37 am

Plugin utilization breakdown:



Foundation Plugin: Not parametric, slab on grade foundation, less than a minute

Wall Plugin: Fully parametric, exterior walls only with some doors and windows, about a minute

Truss Plugin: Rafter roof not parametric and required manual editing to complete this roof framing, approximately 30-45 minutes of trimming members with the trim tool (Truss Plugin).

Based on this test the area I am falling down in most is the roof. I need to be able to automatically create complex roofs and also have them fully parametric, this has always been the holy grail of the Truss Plugin and I have not yet achieved it.

In my mind the Wall Plugin has already surpassed the Truss Plugin in ability and functionality.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby pilou » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:08 am

Cool assemby of 3 specialized plugins! :enlight:
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:23 pm

I really like what I am able to do with the Wall Plugin now. Granted it does have a few missing elements but overall it can throw up some walls quickly and is full parametric. My issue is really with the Truss Plugin and its inability to handle full automation and parametric design.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby pbacot » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:32 pm

While the wall plugin has so many options to consider I can see how the complexity of truss design is difficult to cover in a plugin for all (or most) considerations. Nevertheless great work all around!
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:38 pm

I just noticed this morning that I don't have a vertical offset for doors, funny nobody else has noticed this yet:

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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:21 am

Version 0.8.4d - 07.05.2018 thru 07.09.2018
- Added a vertical offset parameter for doors that allows a door to be positioned below the bottom plate of the wall.





Door is vertically offset 12" into blockout in concrete stemwall.
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Re: Medeek Wall Extension

Postby medeek » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:21 pm

To better reflect the distinction between a plugin and extension I will be re-branding the plugin and renaming it to just "Medeek Wall".

From here on out I will also be referring to it as an extension.

The entire collection of plugins will be re-branded as:

Medeek Architect - A SketchUp Extension Library

http://design.medeek.com/resources/resources.html
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:27 am

There may be an issue with calling the collection of plugins Medeek Architect because of the reserved status of the word architect and architecture. I'm not even sure who to contact in regard to this matter to check on any legal difficulties, but I will do some more research tomorrow.

Other ideas for names include:

Medeek Construction
Medeek Home
Medeek Arch
Medeek Designer
Medeek SU
Medeek Build

I kind of like the ring of Medeek Architect, but I don't know if it will fly.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby pbacot » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:34 am

There's "Chief Architect" --don't know if there's a licensed individual involved. Not the same as if you were trying to sell services as an architect but some people do get litigious and states do have widely encompassing protections on the word.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby pilou » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:54 am

Medeek 3D Construction ? ;)
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:55 am

Added the APL4 Beam-to-Column Tie per designer request:



Installed in pairs with total of six STN22 decorative washers.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby Bob James » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:52 am

Medeek Architecture Designer?
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby Charlie__V » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:49 pm

Medeek AAi for Sketchup (Artificial Architecture intelligence) :mrgreen:
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby KrisM » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:18 pm

I would put a request in for all the Simpson Outdoor Accent Connectors as well as the CPTZ Concealed Post tie. I've modeled some of these for one project but it would be great if they were incorporated into your extension (almost called it a plugin :) ).
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:06 pm

KrisM wrote:I would put a request in for all the Simpson Outdoor Accent Connectors as well as the CPTZ Concealed Post tie. I've modeled some of these for one project but it would be great if they were incorporated into your extension (almost called it a plugin :) ).


I was going to add the post feature to the foundation ext. but I think I will add it to the wall ext.

To this feature I will then add the ability to include post bases and caps. Then I will add in all of various Simpson hardware for free standing posts.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:00 am

Version 0.8.5 - 07.11.2018
- Added the Prairie Grille for picture windows.
- Added "Casement" and "Fixed" to the window installation types, these currently are modeled identical to the picture window type.
- Added a "No Header" option for windows.
- Updated the licensing system to include a 30 day limit of the trial version.
- Added Simpson Strong-Tie APL4 Beam-to-Column Tie to the beam hanger library.
- Name of plugin changed to "Medeek Wall".



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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:57 am

Trying to get to the big stuff but ended up working on some fires and adding some window grilles per customer requests.

The following grille options now available will be:

- None
- Standard
- Prairie
- Perimeter
- Short Fractional
- Farmhouse



View model here:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/ ... st-Grilles

Now that I've spent some time organizing the window module better adding various grille configurations is a breeze. If you need others added just let me know.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:05 pm

Version 0.8.5b - 07.12.2018
- Added the following Grille Types for all windows: Prairie, Perimeter, Short Fractional, Farmhouse, Grid2x2, Grid2x3, Grid3x2, Grid3x3.



A Grid3x2 would be three columns and two rows (6 lite).

There are now 10 variants available for window grilles. One of these days I might consider adding in the Diamond and Queen Anne patterns but right now I'm "grille fatigued". On to bigger and better things.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:26 am

Beyond the trim and grilles the only exterior window treatment I am missing is shutters:



I will need to add in another set of parameters for shutters and associated menus.

The parameters will be:

Shutter Geometry: Single or Double
Shutter Style: Louver, Raised Panel, Flat Panel, Board & Batten
Shutter Material
Shutter Thickness

By default they will be half the width of the window opening and their height will be the same as the window opening. The shutter(s) will be offset 2" from the edge of the window to simulate the space taken up by hinges. I will not be showing hinges or any other hardware so as to keep the poly count reasonable.

The poly count on the various styles should not be too much of a problem except for the louvered style. Not sure how to model this variant without adding a lot geometry which is going to make the model heavy.

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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby pilou » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:51 am

With the free PBR by Samuel inside SketchUp! ;)



or more elaborated :)

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