Foundation Plugin

Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby db11 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:14 pm

I should note that specific assemblies and methods — whether foundation / wall / roof etc — are not spec'd by the PH standard, rather their performance is. How you get there is up to you.

So the 8" monolithic slab isn't hard and fast, though it's what we've settled on for combined strength and simplicity: any increase in concrete costs is made up for by simpler tray forming and prep. It could also be done with a 10" grade beam and 6" slab. Seems to me that since you've already enabled grade beams in your regular foundations, then you could use that shape for the upper face(s) of the underslab insulation. (another example where the boolean solid tools would simplify things).

As to the other measurement variables:

1. EPS thickness (obviously) with underslab and edge thickness as independent variables.
2. The width of the upper portion of the EPS footing profile is dependant on the combined outboard cavity wall / sheathing so that the rainscreen / envelope terminate flush with the EPS (as shown in the section drawing I sent you), .
3. The height of the upper portion is simply the slab depth.
4. The front edge profile (chamfer) is just to provide a good integrated drainage plane and connection to the frost protection, so not critical. For first go-round it could be square to simplify things.
5. Frost protection is uniform 4' around the perimeter @ 4" thick, so maybe width and thickness of FP EPS should be independent variables as well?

I'll check with the principal of our firm to see if he's OK with me posting an anonymized version of the EPS tray drawings I PM'd you, so that others can follow/engage the discussion.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:01 pm

Since I use the followme tool in the API, I can literally form any profile possible. What I need is a typical profile with a variable instead of a number for each critical dimension then I can incorporate it into the plugin. What should I call this kind of insulated slab? I don't want to use Passivhaus if it would violate your copyright protection. Or then again it may help you advertise and sell more houses using this type of foundation.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby db11 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:35 pm

Let me get back to you with a typical profile.

As for naming, Passivhaus / Passive House isn't our trademark, but rather that of the Passive House Institute (Passivhaus Institut in Germany, where it originated): http://www.passivehouse.com/index.html

I'll see if we can come up with a more generic but still descriptive name. We have simply used 'EPS Tray Foundation' as our descriptive term, so maybe that would work... if we can't find anything better.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:07 am

Is this type of construction generally rectangular or do you construct any shape or outline?

From a structural standpoint how do you deal with anchor bolts and even more importantly holdowns? The eight inches of concrete does not provide enough embedment depth for your typical holdown anchor bolts.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby db11 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:06 pm

I'll get to answering your questions later today, when I have some open time. In the meantime here are screenshots of the foundation / detail drawings (sans cartouche).

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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:48 pm

With your EPS form profile I am wondering what the function of the foot is that overshoots the exterior wall. Wouldn't an L-shaped profile work just as well?
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby nujak66 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:02 am

medeek wrote:I've had some discussion with other SketchUp users about developing the plugin for commercial use. Should I require that the user have PRO installed? A number of registered users of the plugin do not use it for commercial use, I would rather keep it open to all users but it would be easier to develop within PRO with its Boolean functions.


I say if it furthers your development, then make it for the PRO version.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby Garry K » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:14 am

For what ever it is worth I believe I share this sentiment with Nathaniel. I want my plugins to work with Make and Pro.

However I do use a few Pro only features. What I do is disable them in the web dialog if Make is running. So I can manage one source code and not worry. The features that I disable are not show stoppers.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:49 am

Tutorial 1:

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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:00 am

Version 1.1.4 - 06.11.2017
- Added pre-drawn face outline tool for stemwall and slab-on-grade foundations and slabs.

You can now click on a face (any closed polygon shape) and the plugin will generate the appropriate stemwall, SOG or slab.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:32 pm

Any call for drain pipe around the footing of these foundations?

Pipe diameter? 4", 6" How accurate do you want it to be? Any pipe specs that are normally used? I've never actually installed drain pipe around a footing so my experience with it is minimal other than calling out a 4" drain pipe on various plans.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby juju » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:19 am

rather leave that as a separate element the user can add, if and as per their requirements
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby KrisM » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:53 pm

I have a previously purchased copy of the Foundation plugin. I have just been notified when I started SketchUp that a new version is available. I go to the Medeek website and find the sentence that says go to Account Manager for the update. Log into Account manager but for the life of me, I can't find any way to get the current version. Am I supposed to download a trial version? Am I missing something obvious? I had the same trouble with the Truss plugin and never updated it. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby MtnArch » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:19 pm

This is how I do it: after you've logged into your account it should bring up the main screen that has the Plugins towards the bottom of the page. Pick on either one (say, the truss plugin), then when it shows your order number pick on it. At that window it should say "Download Now" at the top - pick that and save the new version to your computer.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby KrisM » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:26 pm

Worked like a charm. Thank you.

I would suggest that a sentence or two could be put in the Account manger page to explain this. Sometimes the obvious ... isn't.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:29 am

I apologize for the obvious confusion in where to go to download the latest version. I will look into this further and update the Account Manager accordingly.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby KrisM » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:39 am

Thanks for your response. I acknowledge and applaud your always being on top of things.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:20 am

You give me too much credit, if I was on top of things we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:44 am

Okay, try it now...

Login to the Account Manager and click on either the Truss Plugin or the Foundation Plugin. If you have an active license (not expired) a download button/link will now show rather than a purchase or renew button. Once your plugin serial expires the button will revert to a renew and/or purchase button. Not sure why I didn't fix this before, it was not a big deal.

If you click on your order number you will also see the download link as well. Just one less hoop to jump through.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby nujak66 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:18 am

Love the Video Tutorial Nathaniel!
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:13 pm

The renewal option is now available for the foundation plugin. The current renewal cost is $7.00 USD versus a $10.00 USD new license fee.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby Tandem » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:42 am

Great news for all licensed users of the Medeek Foundation Plugin.
Nathaniel just updated the Medeek Construction Library KickStarter project by adding a pledge that lets people upgrade their existing Foundation Plugin license to the Construction Library license for $35.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:55 am

Version 1.1.5 - 07.18.2017
- Fixed bug with slab reinforcement for Slab-on-Grade foundations (Polygon, Face).
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby dpaul » Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:28 pm

I have just started to experiment with the foundation plugin. The parametrics are great.

A question: might it be possible to have defaults for joists flush with the mud sill, i.e. to have the floor
assembly sit WITHIN the foundation wall?

With my thanks.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby pbacot » Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:22 pm

dpaul wrote:I have just started to experiment with the foundation plugin. The parametrics are great.

A question: might it be possible to have defaults for joists flush with the mud sill, i.e. to have the floor
assembly sit WITHIN the foundation wall?

With my thanks.



This is an increasingly typical condition for us too. The sheathing extends over the mudsill. Then we also have the condition where we raise the stemwall even higher to raise the wall framing above adjacent decks.
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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby facer » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:08 am

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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby facer » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:27 pm

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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby facer » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:53 am

Medeek Const Library - Kickstarter Status at: 20 Aug

All or nothing. This project will only be funded if it reaches its goal by Tue, August 29 2017

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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby facer » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:14 pm

Medeek Const Library - Kickstarter Status at: 26 Aug

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Re: Foundation Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:22 am

I've been considering adding in a waffle (pod) slab, the type that is common in Australia.

I've also been reading quite a few online articles that discuss some of the issue with this type of foundation:

https://www.cornellengineers.com.au/bew ... fle-slabs/

There does seem to be some advantages to this system but also some disadvantages.

https://wpma.org.au/members/members

Just wondering if anyone has any direct experience good or bad with this type of foundation system that they would be willing to share.
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