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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby pbacot » Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:22 am

Nice work!
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:34 am

22' truss, notice the change in the web configurations as compared to the 24' truss.



There still may be a few kinks to work out in the algorithm that determines how many webs to place but overall I'm pretty pleased with what I have so far.

I've officially added the attic truss updates to the plugin so they are now live.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby juju » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:58 am

Good work! Can you do it so the truss created is a grouped as a component (obviously other trusses generated are copies of the component).
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:58 pm

juju wrote:Good work! Can you do it so the truss created is a grouped as a component (obviously other trusses generated are copies of the component).


I think I get what you are asking here. Create the geometry of the first truss in the array as a component and then simply copy the original truss to make the others that way each truss can be manipulated as an entity yet if one truss is modified (the component) they will all be modified. Let me look into this.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby juju » Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:03 pm

medeek wrote:
juju wrote:Good work! Can you do it so the truss created is a grouped as a component (obviously other trusses generated are copies of the component).


I think I get what you are asking here. Create the geometry of the first truss in the array as a component and then simply copy the original truss to make the others that way each truss can be manipulated as an entity. Let me look into this.

most trusses end up looking the same, if the need arises to modify one, it can be made unique and modified; this way it's faster to change things and also results in smaller file sizes
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:10 pm

Thank-you for bringing me up to speed. I'm still wrapping my head around SketchUp, as most of my experience is with AutoCAD. I didn't even realize that SketchUp had the ability for "blocks", very cool.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby studio43 » Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:56 pm

I purchased the plugin How do I download the most current version?
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:04 pm

studio43 wrote:I purchased the plugin How do I download the most current version?


You can always grab the latest version in the Medeek Account Manager, Login and navigate to the plugin page, the download button will have the latest version.

I'm working on the group/component issue and hopefully should have that up later today.

SketchUp is actually pretty full featured, I'm pleasantly surprised.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:08 am

Trusses are now created as components with each individual member of the truss a group. Arrays of trusses are multiple instances of the same component.

I think this plugin may actually have some potential now.

A couple more screenshots for fun. A well designed truss is a beautiful thing to behold:





I really appreciate everyone's feedback, this has helped guide me in the right direction on all of this and improved my understanding of SketchUp immensely.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby jemagnussen » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:48 am

Hi Medeek,

Super plugin, just bought it... :)

Would you consider a metric version in the near future? It would be very helpfull to the "metric world" of designers.

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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby juju » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:15 am

jemagnussen wrote:Would you consider a metric version in the near future? It would be very helpfull to the "metric world" of designers.
Jesper

yes please! also the pitch of the truss in degrees instead of the x-in-12 system.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:34 am

jemagnussen wrote:Hi Medeek,

Super plugin, just bought it... :)

Would you consider a metric version in the near future? It would be very helpfull to the "metric world" of designers.

Best regards
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I don't think a metric version would be too hard to create. It would be cool if I could somehow have a configuration file of sorts so that imperial or metric could be semi-permanent setting that can be switched within SketchUp. Not really sure how to do this within the API but I will add that to the todo list.

I'm assuming the units of interest would be millimeters, correct me if I'm wrong. I think I will also open up the pitch variable so any pitch can be chosen instead of limiting it. I would also like have it in the settings where someone can manage the default values and choose between degrees or x/12 for the pitch.

I'm not really familiar with the metric lumber sizes. Would you want the variable completely open or limited to certain metric standard sizes?
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby juju » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:38 am

can it not reference the sketchup session to see which units are being used and then use that?
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby jemagnussen » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:30 am

Hi again,

JuJu's proposal of using the units being used by Sketchup would be the most intuitive. For using standard sizes I would imagine that an open approach would suit most users.

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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:23 pm

It's kind of funny how everyone else in the world is metric yet the USA is still using the old English units.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:24 am

Howe truss type is now active.

The latest plugin version is 1.0.4. I would highly recommend downloading the latest version since I have also spent some time this morning cleaning up my code and removing global methods and variables so that I don't clash with other extensions or modules.

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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:43 am

Monopitch trusses are also now live:



Currently the 2/2 and 3/3 configurations are available, more of this truss family will be added after I address the metric issue and a few of the other requested items.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby juju » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:03 am

thanks for the active development, looking forward to the metric version
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby juju » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:46 pm

If I may list a request, the way your tool currently works seems fine, but it could be more helpful (faster modeling) if one had the option of indicating the area of the trusses (with it auto-calculating the truss centers, with a maximum parameter setting) much in the same way tomot's truss tool does it.

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and maybe a quick launch icon that one can locate on the toolbar?
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:49 pm

Currently I am dumping the trusses at the origin (0,0,0) since that seemed like the most natural thing to do but I can see where a more intuitive placement system makes more sense and would eliminate the additional steps needed to move the array of trusses into place and possibly rotating them.

I like the idea of selecting a rectangle which auto-sizes and orients the trusses.

Adding a quick launch icon should not be too much trouble either.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby pbacot » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:34 pm

You're on fire! Good work.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:22 pm

I've added a toolbar/icon which admittedly is more convenient than having to open up the extensions menu item.

I'm not entirely sure I'm happy with the icon set I've created but it is really hard to make much of a 24x24 or 16x16 square.



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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:53 pm

I'm looking at adding in scissor trusses. Below is a matrix of common scissor truss configurations. Once they get much larger than a 6/6 I think they probably go to site assembled half trusses, I'm not entirely sure since I don't have any drawings or diagrams of anything larger than a 6/6.

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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:39 am

For the common truss types I've configured the plugin to detect the SketchUp template units and display a metric UI. I've also replaced the x/12 system with degrees for the metric interface. All member sizes and other dimensions are open for the metric interface as well.

Go ahead and give it a whirl, if it checks out then I will go ahead and update the attic and monopitch UI with the metric option.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby juju » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:52 pm

Hi Nathaniel, wow, I'm loving the progress and response time.

Icons: they seem easily recognizable enough, they should do fine
Truss configurations: excellent news! this plugin is getting better by the day
Unit: so the metric is implemented and live? Seems like I'll be parting with some money soon, even though I bought tomot's tool previously, the way this is developing (and the options offered by it) I'll definitely be interested in getting the paid tool instead of the trial version.

thanks!
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby juju » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:39 pm

juju wrote:Seems like I'll be parting with some money soon...

say hello to order #13, thanks.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:05 pm

juju wrote:
juju wrote:Seems like I'll be parting with some money soon...

say hello to order #13, thanks.


Wow. South Africa. Now I can say my customer base is worldwide. Thank-you for the support.

Hopefully the plugin does not disappoint.

There are so many things one can do with this it is almost overwhelming.

I was looking at gable end trusses last night and beyond the typical gable end truss you would have the option for a dropped top chord as well as structural gable end trusses.

Then there is all the variants and configurations associated with hip roofs that need attention (ie. California Style Hip Set.).

Send in the requests and I'll work on them as time allows.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby studio43 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:19 pm

I looked for the download button to get the latest version. All I can see is an option to "trial" and "Buy". Do I have to purchase the most up to date version even though I currently own a copy of version 1.0.0?
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby juju » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:44 pm

studio43 wrote:I looked for the download button to get the latest version. All I can see is an option to "trial" and "Buy". Do I have to purchase the most up to date version after I already bought ver 1.0?

Interesting question, I'd be interested to know how long upgrades will be available for as well. However, in order to buy the plugin you have to register a user account on the site, from there you can access the product (-s) you've purchased, so my guess will be that updates will be accessed/downloaded from there.
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Re: 3D Truss Models

Postby medeek » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:52 pm

studio43 wrote:I looked for the download button to get the latest version. All I can see is an option to "trial" and "Buy". Do I have to purchase the most up to date version after I already bought ver 1.0?


To get the latest version login to the Account Manager here:

https://design.medeek.com/login/

Click on the plugin link.

Your order number and data will appear, click on the order number, then click on the Download Now button, this will be the latest version.

All licenses currently purchased are permanent, this means you are entitled to all upgrades in the future. At some point I may move to a yearly license so that those licenses will only entitle the user 1 year of upgrades and then after that they will be required to purchase an upgrade to get the latest version. I don't want to make the licensing a burden to the users but I also want to be fair to myself if I spend alot of time and effort adding in more trusses and features.

You will notice that the License type in the Account Manager lists the License as permanent. This license and order is associated with your Client ID in the database. As long as you have access to your Client ID and can login you have access to the latest plugin.
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