[Plugin] SketchyFFD (Classic)

[Plugin] SketchyFFD (Classic)

Postby CPhillips » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:29 am

UPDATE April 2021
Hi Everyone. I am happy to announce that mind.sight.studios is going to be taking over development of SketchyFFD effective immediately. Please see this thread by Dale here for more information:

viewtopic.php?f=323&t=73658

And I'd like to thank TIG for helping keep SketchyFFD updated the last few years.

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[NOTE: These instructions are out of date. Please see this thread for updates]
viewtopic.php?f=323&t=73658

Instructions: (somewhat out of date. see updates for changes)
-Create a group with all the geometry you wish to deform. This group should contain just faces and/or lines.
-Right click the group and select one of the options in the FFD submenu. Either 2x2 or 3x3 or NxN FFD. Depending on the size of the model it could take a while (seconds I hope). At the end you should see a new group containing nothing but control points
-Open the control point group and move the control points as you wish. The object should deform as you move the points. NOTE: it can take a long time for complex models. Look at the status bar in the lower left to see the status of the deformation.

Bugs and limitations:
-BUG. If you start a FFD and the control points don't match the object you need to explode and regroup the object. Then try the FFD again.
-Only one FFD at a time. The script uses a few globals for speed.
-Only works on geometry in a group and only one layer deep.
-Sometimes hidden edges don't move right. Dont know why. Might be a bug in Sketchup.

Update Feb 12. New version:
-Support for NxN deforms.
-Mesh automatically when you move control points.
-Added status text progress when it is weighing and deforming the mesh.

Update Mar 21.
-Moved all FFD right click menu items to a sub menu.
-Fixed a bug that forced you to have a least 2 control point in each direction. You can now have do 2D grids. IE. 1x4x3.
-Added an option to create a NxN 2d patch. A grid with a control point at each intersection.

Updated May 9 2008
-Added ability to lock edges in the mesh so they don't move during FFD. Select edges then right click->FFD->Lock edges.
-Added an option to subdivide the mesh when doing a NxN deformation.

Updated Aug 24 2009
-Optimized the initial weighting to be about 3x faster. Idea by Stefan.

Updated 20110810 by TIG
-Code is now inside a module, all $ variables now @@ or @ types, the flaky observer code is fixed.

Updated 20130203 by TIG
- Recently reported NxN issues with NaN [0.0/0.0] & Infinity [1.0/0.0] fixed, which occurred when selected group was 2d & NxN height=1
and the NxN dialog now remembers the last used values that session for the NxN lattice [width, depth, height, subdivide]...
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby kwistenbiebel » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:13 pm

Wow Chris,
Thank you for sharing this ruby.
That is a great contribution!

[EDIT]: the ruby doesn't seem to work on my PC. updating the FF seems broken.
I must be doing something wrong....(I tried it on a sphere)
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby remus » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:04 pm

cheers chris, just had a really quick go with it and it seems to work fine for me. Thanks for all the work youve already put into this.
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby daniel s » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:47 pm

Fantastic script Chris!!!

Hope that somebody pick it up and help with the UI.

It works very fast!! To show interactively the deformation of the group in wireframe mode (like in Fredo6´s Shear) would be a good feature... perhaps will go more slow.. but will be a time saver because you don´t have to close the group, make a right click and select Update FFD and then wait to see if is the deformation you wanted and then make all the process again to fix it.

This is other ruby that looks like a SU7 feature :ecstatic:.

Thank You!!!!!!

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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby pilou » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:38 pm

impressive task :fro:
Works fine except the control points stay on the screen after deformation :?:
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby boofredlay » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:29 pm

Pilou wrote:impressive task :fro:
Works fine except the control points stay on the screen after deformation :?:

That is the new group created by the FFD. You can simply delete or hide it when done with it.

This is great! Thanks for this script.
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby boofredlay » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:44 pm

Here is a quickie test. I drew a circle with 24 segments and copy/push/pull. Then I ran the script and moved the points.
This is one more step towards organics indeed. :thumb:
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby pilou » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:48 pm

That is the new group created by the FFD. You can simply delete or hide it when done with it.

THX: very simple indeed ! :enlight:
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby krash88 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:11 pm

It looks great in it's current form, but I get this error in the console... Maybe I'm doing something wrong...

Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method `definition' for #<Sketchup::Group:0xbec0960>>
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:224:in `analizeLattice'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:60:in `updateFFD'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:13
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:13:in `call'
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby Mike Lucey » Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:55 pm

Thanks Chris, this could really be a useful Ruby for SketchUp.
I hope someone picks it up (as you say) and copper fastens it.
Even if they don't I imagine you will in your own good time
finalise the Script ;)

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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby CPhillips » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:38 pm

krash88 wrote:It looks great in it's current form, but I get this error in the console... Maybe I'm doing something wrong...

Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method `definition' for #<Sketchup::Group:0xbec0960>>
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:224:in `analizeLattice'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:60:in `updateFFD'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:13
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:13:in `call'



Ooops! I fixed it and updated the script in the original post. Kwistenbiebel this is probably the same bug you were seeing.

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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby CPhillips » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:20 am

Coen Naninck wrote:I can't get this script to work. Nothing happens.
I create a sphere, group it, right-click and do 3x3 FFD, enter the new group with Construction Points, move some to another position, exit the group, right-click the sphere group and choose Update FFD. Nothing happens.


Can you open the ruby console and see if it is printing any errors?

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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby kwistenbiebel » Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:58 am

...exactly the same here. I see no errors in the ruby panel though.
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby CPhillips » Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:21 am

kwistenbiebel wrote:...exactly the same here. I see no errors in the ruby panel though.


Wow. I tried it on 2 different machines and it works. Maybe you are using a Mac? Altho I don't see why that would make any difference..
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby kwistenbiebel » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:38 am

Does the plugin in any means uses web based 'action script' or 'javascript' as I had trouble before with corrupt Iexplorer settings?
(I refer to web panel based plugins like Skindigo that failed in the past on my pc due to 'script blockers' )
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby boofredlay » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:49 am

It is working fine on my home machine as well as my work machine. Both pc on xp. One new, the other 8 years old. :shock:
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby CPhillips » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:51 am

kwistenbiebel wrote:Does the plugin in any means uses web based 'action script' or 'javascript' as I had trouble before with corrupt Iexplorer settings?
(I refer to web panel based plugins like Skindigo that failed in the past on my pc due to 'script blockers' )


No other scripts at all. Just pure ruby.

Hrmm. Very strange. Try doing a 2x2 FFD on a simple box. With the ruby console open in case of errors.
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby Dave R » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:35 pm

Very cool script. Thank you.

I do seem to being doing something wrong with it though. (Leave it to me to break it. :roll: ) See the attached screen grab.

I drew a sphere centered on the blue axis and above the ground plane. After moving a single point marked at the top and updating, the egg moved off to where it is now. What did I do wrong?
FFD1.JPG
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby krash88 » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:39 pm

CPhillips wrote:
krash88 wrote:It looks great in it's current form, but I get this error in the console... Maybe I'm doing something wrong...

Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method `definition' for #<Sketchup::Group:0xbec0960>>
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:224:in `analizeLattice'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:60:in `updateFFD'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:13
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/SketchyFFD.rb:13:in `call'



Ooops! I fixed it and updated the script in the original post. Kwistenbiebel this is probably the same bug you were seeing.

Chris


It works great now! thanks for the fix!
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby CPhillips » Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:14 pm

Dave R wrote:Very cool script. Thank you.

I do seem to being doing something wrong with it though. (Leave it to me to break it. :roll: ) See the attached screen grab.

I drew a sphere centered on the blue axis and above the ground plane. After moving a single point marked at the top and updating, the egg moved off to where it is now. What did I do wrong?
FFD1.JPG

It looks like you did a "Update FFD" without first closing the control point group.

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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby Dave R » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:48 pm

Yup. That's what I did alright. :oops:

Thanks for the help.

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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby Dave R » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:07 am

Coen's post makes me ask, is there anyway to make this work on a component instead of or in addition to a group?
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby Dave R » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:22 pm

Where's the "dope slap" smilie? :roll: :lol:

I was doing it in reverse, trying to make a group of a components. Thanks Coen. I gotta think inside the box. :thumb:
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby CPhillips » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:18 pm

Coen Naninck wrote:You're welcome Dave!

What's a dope slap though?

Also, I have been experimenting more with this script. I had an idea to position the cloned Construction Points along a series of curved Edges that you usually see used on Soap Skin Bubble examples, but I haven't been successful. I am trying to see (and would like Chris to shed some light on this) if the Construction Points have coordinates assigned to them. What I mean is that if I clone the Construction Points from the top and use them in the bottom will this distort the FFD? Should I therefor use the top ones? Well I tested this and it does seem so that there are coordinates assigned to them because by running two tests, one with using the Construction Points from above and the other test by using the bottom ones, and the result were different. The second test is what you see below, which brings me to another point - it is interesting to see what kind of curvy geometry you can create with this script, cloning Construction Points and positioning them. I hope I can find a way to understand how to exactly control them so it becomes easy to make any kind of curved geometry I had hoped to create in the first place.


As it is currently written it creates the construction points at fixed points and then weights the model based on that initial position. I am actually surprised that coping the construction points works at all. :)

I think what you are asking for is: Take this mesh and start FFD with this group of arbitrary positioned control points. That should be possible and probably not to difficult.

But you would have to be careful. When you start a FFD it creates a table of weights for each construction point with 3 floats per vertex in the group to deform.
So if you have a mesh with 1000 verts and a 3x3 set of control points:
3x3x3=27 control points
27*1000*3=81,000 floats

When you update it loops through each vertex and calculates how much to move it based on the weighted changes in the control point. So the more control points you have the slower it is.

In your picture it looks like you have 9x9x3 control points. That comes to 729,000 floats. It would be really really slow to deform.

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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby juju » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:08 pm

I'd take "really really slow" over "no such function at all" any day.
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby Pixero » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:21 pm

I think its pretty clear what he means.
He much rather have a slow tool that does what he wants then not having that tool at all.
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby CPhillips » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:45 pm

Coen Naninck wrote:The example in the pic takes a few seconds to deform.

So do the points placed actually have different coordinates assigned to them? That's what I was asking in my previous post. I find it kinda hard to explain, I hope you know what I mean.


Yes they do. Each construction point has its original position stored in an attribute. Thats how I know how far the point moved. But that is only 1/2 the equation. You also need the pre-calculated weight. That is what is missing when you copy a control point. Its that quick because it doesn't have all the calculated weights to process.

If you want to try it with more control points do this:
-Select the group you want to deform.
-Open the ruby console and enter the following line:

startFFD(Sketchup.active_model.selection[0],7.0)

That will create a 8x8 control grid (8-1=7.0). Delete the points you don't intend to move to make it a bit faster.
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby CPhillips » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:22 am

I made a new version that has a NxN FFD. That means you can select how many control points there are in each direction. It isn't as slow as I expected.

Here is a 12x12x2. I am playing back my undo buffer so it looks faster than it is.

Ill post it once I fix a bug or two.

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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby juju » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:17 am

Coen Naninck wrote:
Juju wrote:I'd take "really really slow" over "no such function at all" any day.


Juju, I find your replies are often cryptic. What's the bottom line?


Pixero wrote:I think its pretty clear what he means.
He much rather have a slow tool that does what he wants then not having that tool at all.

Exactly! Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Re: SketchyFFD (Free Form Deformation)

Postby Fletch » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:29 am

Can't wait to play with this, Chris, thank you from the bottom of my heart... been wishing for this for a loooong time.
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