Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby TIG » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:52 am

I can't tell your full path to the Plugins folder from the image... is it in the 'root' HD...Library path [good] or ...User...Library path [bad].
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby congellous » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:26 pm

TIG wrote:I can't tell your full path to the Plugins folder from the image... is it in the 'root' HD...Library path [good] or ...User...Library path [bad].


Definitely in the HD path
sometimes with the simple .rb's they work by just dropping them in so I don't get it.
How do you load them from the console ?
I just got the SketchyFFD which I have a live project to use it on and that won't work and it's a simple file ??

I'm on Mac 10.6.8 Sketchup pro 8
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby TIG » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:53 pm

The purpose of this thread is to explain how to extract files and subfolders of helper-files [with their contents intact] into the Plugins folder...
You don't usually need to 'load them from the console' :? , unless they are/were not in the Plugins folder at start-up.
Any .rb/.rbs file in the Plugins folder will be auto-loaded into Sketchup when it [re]starts.
Have you read all of the 'usage notes' of the problem these tools?
Some tools come as 'Extensions' which usually need a first-time activation from the Preferences dialog ...
While many such tools appear in the Plugins menu, some appear in other menus like Draw or Tools.
Some tools work just from a toolbar, which will need activating from View>Toolbars...
Some tools are context-sensitive and only appear in the right-click context-menu when you have appropriate things selected - e.g. a tool that only works on a component might not appear in the menu if there is not a component selected [AND 'SketchyFFD' needs one Group to be selected before it appears in the context-menu!!!].
A few tools only work by typing their commands into the Ruby Console, and some other 'scripts' appear to do nothing at all on their own, but they do provide support to allow other scripts to do their stuff [e.g. progressbar.rb or deBabelizer.rb]...........
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby Vicspa » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:17 pm

Hello all,
Being a former plugin junkie, I never had a problem installing, ...however I've had problems extracting unused plugins. After a good plugin folder cleanup, I still get a window that pops up warning me of error loading a file that belonged to SU 7 pro that I no longer have, (at least it does not come up on any search that I've done, see insert). Is there a guide to completely uninstall plugins successfully without leaving files behind to bug you.
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby TIG » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:40 pm

You don't need to worry about removing subfolders of files as they are never used if their associated 'loading' .rb file is disabled.
In your case you have a .rb file that is trying to load [or more specifically in this case, 'read'] something from a subfolder that you must have moved or deleted [it is wise to 'move' as you can always 'restore' later - once 'deleted' it's 'gone'!].
The error messages are usually quite helpful.
In the case of the image you posted the script having the problem is called 'File_ModelFunctionBat.rb'; which can't find a file called 'SearchPath.txt' inside the subfolder called 'ModelFunction'.
Either remove the 'File_ModelFunctionBat.rb' that is failing to load properly [probably what you want to do?] OR possibly reinstate the missing subfolder/files so that it does then find what's missing...
Either way the error will stop.

The Ruby Console errors show some faulty code - what is running to get this ??
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby Vicspa » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:03 pm

Hi TIG,
I'm pretty much a NOOB :bounce: when it comes to technical stuff like this, I did a search for 'File_ModelFunctionBat.rb', 'SearchPath.txt', 'ModelFunction' also did visual search in plugins folder,
and since nothing comes up, how can I restore this path???

As far as the faulty code, and what is running to get this, the best I can do is shrug my shoulders and say " I Dunno" :?
I think I belong in the " Duh" thread.
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby TIG » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:15 pm

vicspa wrote:Hi TIG,
I'm pretty much a NOOB :bounce: when it comes to technical stuff like this, I did a search for 'File_ModelFunctionBat.rb', 'SearchPath.txt', 'ModelFunction' also did visual search in plugins folder, and since nothing comes up, how can I restore this path???

As far as the faulty code, and what is running to get this, the best I can do is shrug my shoulders and say " I Dunno" :?


The Plugins folder that your version of Sketchup is using must contain a file called 'File_ModelFunctionBat.rb' to be generating the error :?
You don't need to do a special 'search'.
Open that Plugins folder in Windows, use view by name, and as a details list, it should be there [ensure that your Folder Options display ALL file-types, so the .rb end shows up].
Double-check that you are looking in the correct folder!
Scripts do also load from the Tools folder, BUT you should not have any additional files in there that have not been installed by Sketchup as part of it's standard installation setup.
Look in there for that rogue script too.
If you still can't find it type this into the Ruby Console $LOAD_PATH it return the paths of the folders used to load scripts; it should show the Plugins and Tools folder paths [double-check that you are looking in these folders], if it shows other paths look there too - so third party tools can add paths to the $LOAD_PATH.......

You don't normally get error messages in the Ruby Console unless you have just activated a tool, or a running tool has got to a situation which causes it an error.
What do you do immediately before the errors you posted appear ???
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby TIG » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:21 pm

Another thought... does your Plugins folder window have a button on it saying something like 'Compatibility Files' - if so you probably don't have the full-permissions you need to change the Plugins folder's contents. Click it and see what it says...
I recommend that you make yourself an Administrator under the User panel.
Also set the Plugins folder's right-click > Properties > Security > Edit settings [for yourself] to be 'full' [==all_ticked], also do this for the Components, Scenes and Materials folders, which can all need your access/changes from time to time...
Not saying this IS the issue... but it won't help!
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby Vicspa » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:35 pm

TIG, Thanks for putting up with me, I hit SU icon in taskbar, SU comes up with this.
Typed in as you suggested in ruby console see below, and also clip from plugins folder if the section where the 'File_ModelFunctionBat.rb' should be.
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby congellous » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:25 pm

TIG wrote:The purpose of this thread is to explain how to extract files and subfolders of helper-files [with their contents intact] into the Plugins folder...
You don't usually need to 'load them from the console' :? , unless they are/were not in the Plugins folder at start-up.
Any .rb/.rbs file in the Plugins folder will be auto-loaded into Sketchup when it [re]starts.
Have you read all of the 'usage notes' of the problem these tools?
Some tools come as 'Extensions' which usually need a first-time activation from the Preferences dialog ...
While many such tools appear in the Plugins menu, some appear in other menus like Draw or Tools.
Some tools work just from a toolbar, which will need activating from View>Toolbars...
Some tools are context-sensitive and only appear in the right-click context-menu when you have appropriate things selected - e.g. a tool that only works on a component might not appear in the menu if there is not a component selected [AND 'SketchyFFD' needs one Group to be selected before it appears in the context-menu!!!].
A few tools only work by typing their commands into the Ruby Console, and some other 'scripts' appear to do nothing at all on their own, but they do provide support to allow other scripts to do their stuff [e.g. progressbar.rb or deBabelizer.rb]...........

All right chill out, I've know how to check extensions and menu's lol
Which thread should I use for a guide to installing the plug ins then please
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby TIG » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:06 pm

Congellous

For someone who knows 'how to do everything' you seem sadly lacking in some basic concepts. :roll:

IF you [re]read my posts, and some other nearby posts, you would realize there is really no 'magic' to 'installing' Plugins.
You certainly don't need to do any code in the Console etc for what you are trying to do...

As I wrote:-
For a simple tool... just put its .rb file in the Plugins folder and restart Sketchup to auto-load the script. Where you then find the tool, and how you use it depends on the design of the tool and what its individual usage notes say...
For a more complex tool... the usual format is that it arrives inside a zipped archive; containing a .rb 'loader' file and several support files, which are usually in a subfolder [where they should remain when the extracted set is then moved into the Plugins folder].

The problem example you gave of SketchyFFD is the simplest to install... it's a single .rb file that you put into the Plugins folder. On a restart of Sketchup, if you first select a Group then the SketchyFFD menu item appears in the right-click context-menu...

If you have failed to do this simplest of installs, then it might be that you have not understood the setup of your system properly...
MAC plugins go into the Macintosh HD [Root] level ...Library... Plugins folder, and NEVER the ...User...Plugins folder.
This IS explained clearly in this thread, and also elsewhere quite frequently!
To find out exactly where YOUR plugins folder is... paste this text into the Ruby Console (+<enter>)
Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins")
It will return the full-path to the Plugins folder you should use...
Find it!
[Also learn to read more than a few lines of help, and let it sink in!]
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:10 pm

If you are using SketchUp 8 M2 (latest version) you can use this utility to install .rb and .zip plugins. (In addition to .zip) It will place the files in the correct location.
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Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

Postby Dan Rathbun » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:46 am

    The culprit file is named:

    _File_ModelFunctionBat.rb

    (... note that the filename begins with an underscore character, and may be listed at the top of the folder.)

    It is NEVER a good idea, to copy OLD plugins, from PREVIOUS versions, into a NEW version's "Plugins" folder EN MASSE.
    Copy one at a time. Test it. Try the next one, etc.

    But it's best to check if the plugin author has updated the plugin for the new Sketchup version, first.
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby yanrothwell » Wed May 23, 2012 12:26 pm

      Hello experts.

      I have read your instructions and tried all the ways that have been suggested; I have cut and pasted the individual file from the google site, I have copied the zipped file and extracted it directly within the plugins folder (C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Google SketchUp 8\Plugins), I have moved the file rather than copying it. I have deleted the previous files before copying them over. I do not have SU 8 loaded while doing this (I have even uninstalled skecthup and then reinstalled it!). And each time it comes up with: Error Loading File parametric_grid.rb no such file to load -- ./parametric.rb

      I have also tried different files from different sources.

      What on earth is the problem? Just how idiotic am I being?

      It wouldn't be that I have a 64 bit Win 6 installed would it?

      Any pointers will be hopeful for me.

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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby Dave R » Wed May 23, 2012 3:02 pm

      Looks to me as if you haven't installed parametric.rb. http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/down ... metric.zip
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby yanrothwell » Thu May 24, 2012 11:55 am

      Dave R wrote:Looks to me as if you haven't installed parametric.rb. http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/down ... metric.zip
      Sorry if I :cry: sounded annoyed on the last post.

      That is indeedy indeed the file I am trying to install (parametric.rb). I have just tried using the installer, (thank you ThomThom) - which works for other .rb files - and SU still refuses to see the parametric.rb for some reason.

      I bet it'll start working randomly, but for now, I'm getting a little frustrated, as I need to use the Soap Skin plugin, and it won't work without the parametric.rb file in there too.

      Me thinkings a fresh install of the whole lot again is needed.
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby Dave R » Thu May 24, 2012 12:22 pm

      I sent you a PM.
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby thomthom » Thu May 24, 2012 12:25 pm

      SoapSKinBubble doesn't need Parametric.rb - pretty sure I didn't need it. Nor is it specified on their website.
      Sounds there might be some other issue in your plugins folder...
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby Dave R » Thu May 24, 2012 12:40 pm

      The error message you posted indicates it's parametric_grid.rb that can't load because it doesn't find parametric.rb. Nothing to do with SSB. :roll:
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby yanrothwell » Thu May 24, 2012 12:48 pm

      Thanks for the info, I'm getting way over my head now. I'm now using the PM function with Dave to keep this thread tidy.
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby Lukas Wassberg » Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:16 pm

      I've had a hard time getting plugins to show up in Sketchup. Re installed and re-zipped, restarted etc. several times with no luck.
      But found out what the problme. This migth help other users with Mac.

      There are TWO sub folders named Plugins.
      1.) In Library/Applicaiton support/Goggle sketchup/Plugins (this is the corret folder to put your new plugins...)
      2.) If you right-click (Mac) on the Sketchup program located under Applications, you can choose to "show packaged". This lets you see the subfolders "hidden" in the the application. There is a Plugins folder here as well. (Don't put your new plugins here!)

      Thanks to all of you guys sharing all your knowledge and creating stunning plugins.

      Best,
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby Dave R » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:43 pm

      Welcome Lukas. You should have come here a long time ago. :D The thing about getting the right location to put the plugin files has been covered ad nauseum.
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby pedropon » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:41 pm

      Hi there,
      I am trying to install "The SCF Power Toolbar (version 1)"
      I tried to drop the "SCF Power Toolbar v1" in my plugins folder, try to install extension in the pref.
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      My Plugins folder
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      Nothing works
      Please help
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby Dave R » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:56 pm

      That's the wrong plugins folder shown in your second and third screenshots. Rather than rehash this again, go back and read the beginning of this thread.
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby Gaieus » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:58 pm

      Hi Pierre,

      Besides what Dave suggested, as you can see from the notes at the bottom of the plugin post here: viewtopic.php?t=14770
      it is a buggy plugin and no-one takes the time and responsibility to trouble shoot any issues.

      Please, try something else instead.
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby thomthom » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:08 am

      pedropon wrote:I am trying to install "The SCF Power Toolbar (version 1)"

      As mentioned by the others, it's the wrong location you're trying to install to.
      have a look at this article on installing plugins: http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2012/0 ... -sketchup/
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby pedropon » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:24 pm

      @Dave R, @Gaieus, @thomthom
      Thanks guys I will definitely try to find some better plugins and not waste my time with those.
      Can you point to some general interesting ones?
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby Dave R » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:29 pm

      Interesting plugins? Well, what do you need a plugin to do? Don't just install plugins because they exist.
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby thomthom » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:34 pm

      Hard to tell without know what and how you work. But you'll find the original plugins from that package you tried to install in the Plugins list: viewtopic.php?p=250026
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      Re: Zipped Plugins -- A Guide to Installing Them

      Postby Gaieus » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:09 am

      Yes, that toolbar plugin is "only" a collection of other plugins so you can actually install them (their up-to-date versions) one by one - and only that you really need.
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