(REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

(REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby EarthMover » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:57 pm

Looking for a plugin, similar to lattice maker, but one specific for brick and tile.

Perhaps after choosing a face, it would start with a prompt asking to choose parameters -

1- Tile or Running Bond

2 - Brick / Tile Width

3 - Brick / Tile Height

4 - Joint Width

5 - Joint Depth

Accept

The plugin then divides the face based on bond style and Brick / Tile WxH.

Then offsets each face by 1/2 of the joint width.

Then extrudes each brick / tile by the joint depth.

Ideal plugin would have -

One step undo
Remember settings
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Doable :?: I imagine the code already exists....somewhere between Jim's "Protrude" and TIG's many different window and lattice tools. Seems like something that would be valuable to many. (Perhaps one day I'll drink magic tea and wake up a talented Ruby scripter!) :mrgreen:
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby jenujacob » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:40 pm

oooooooooh.. this would be soooooo cooooool!!! and if its customisable.. it would be great!! just the other day i was wishing there was a 'groove' tool.. to convert some lines to grooves around a building!!!
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby jenujacob » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:08 pm

bumpty bump bump! :D
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby EarthMover » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:30 pm

I'm with you Jenu. Surprised more people have gotten behind this request.

Anyhow - here is a technique I came up with for making 3D brick and tile the long way around. (compared to a plugin) Benefit is it keeps the file size small as they are almost all components and rendering is a bit quicker than using a displacement map. Unfortunately it doesn't work on non rectangular shapes. There is also a bit of a bug when running ThomThom's Replace Selected script that flips half of the components backward. Other than that, it could be a quick technique for foreground surfaces that are close to the render view.

(Is there a script out there that will divide up non-rectangular surfaces?)

Technique in the video uses Matt666's "Groups and Components Tools" viewtopic.php?t=17590 & ThomThom's "Selection Toys" viewtopic.php?t=14975 & ThomThom's "Component Comparison" viewtopic.php?t=30143 (Also Jim's Divide Faces from the Protrude plugin - can't find the link at the moment)

(EDIT - Similar technique would be to use kyyu's plugin - Group PushPull 2D Faces viewtopic.php?t=31279 plugin instead of Matt666's, run ThomThom's component comparison to make them all group copies, then use Selection Toys to convert them to components. This seems to keep the component comparison plugin from reversing the faces, so it may be a better option.)

Video - (Obviously in these examples, it would be just as easy to do the tiles by making an array copy of one component, but it's an example based on the premise of being able to divide up any shape into tiles or bricks. Technically you could take a non uniform surface and drape a tile pattern onto it and apply these techniques.





Quick render of the brick with a texture and bump applied -

Brick Wall Render Test.jpg


Quick render of the Tile -

Tile Render Test.jpg


And model is attached
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby TIG » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:06 pm

Adam...

I am "sleeping on it" - it shouldn't be too difficult... but I do have some Terrazzo flooring to finish..... ;)

Maybe next week [year!]... :roll:
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby mitcorb » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:37 pm

@TIG:
Is that terrazzo a Plugin or a Pour in? :mrgreen:
And then a new tool: a Grind in.
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby TIG » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:44 pm

mitcorb wrote:@TIG:
Is that terrazzo a Plugin or a Pour in? :mrgreen:
And then a new tool: a Grind in.

It's all 'real' tiles [unfortunately] ! Ironic as that's sort of Adam's request!!
I have already laid a hallway in mahogany-parquet [sanding it level was a bugger] and a bathroom in terrazzo AND its walls too: how much grout do you really need!!
I 'love' grouting [not] :roll:
But it has to be done...
Sometimes the 'real' world is just not as 'nice' as the 'virtual' one................
Otherwise I would have selected the floor area and used the material paint-bucket with a suitable texture and then adjusted it a little... then 'save' = it's 'done'! Back to the 'unreal' world here... :bounce:
PS: My knees are starting to ache! ;)
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby SpookyChick1013 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:52 pm

Tig, with regard to the mahogany parquet, you have my deepest sympathy. I've done that ONCE. Never,ever,ever,EVER again. :knockout:

Our next house we are going to build and since I am designing it the floor is going to be stone or ceramic tile. ( my partner won't agree to something simple like epoxy coated cement, even though it would be SO much easier.):lol:

@ EarthMover; Yeah a plugin like this would be handy. BTW nice renders, especially the tile. Which render program do you use?
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby TIG » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:59 pm

Particularly with reclaimed herringbone pattern tongued and grooved mahogany parquet blocks that have to marry into some existing ones ! I sanded....I sanded....I sanded....
Still... it looks good after all that - even if I say so myself - "you can't see the join"... :o
The terrazzo is a doddle by comparison - it's just time consuming - the change in the weather means that dusty cutting 'outside' etc is awkward - 'cus inside is almost done and I'll get lynched if I make too much mess [again]... ;)
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby SpookyChick1013 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:26 am

TIG wrote:
Particularly with reclaimed herringbone pattern tongued and grooved mahogany parquet blocks that have to marry into some existing ones ! I sanded....I sanded....I sanded....

Oh the Hororors! The HORROR of it all!! Yeah, that is the worst part about wood flooring is all the joins, especially if you are using reclaimed stuff


the change in the weather means that dusty cutting 'outside' etc is awkward
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The UK's infamous equinoctical rains, I presume? I live in the desert, so its sunny and 43c one day, and 25c with monsoonal thunderstorms the next, at least through autumn. The rest of the year it's just in the 40's and sunny...Lovely....

Anyway, best of luck with the flooring.
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby jenujacob » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:38 pm

wow! adam, the Force of the Plugins is strong with you! haha!
excellent method! and what a treasure house of plugins we have here on SCF! now i am off to play with the toys u've introduced me to! haha!
and TIG! hope the parquet job goes/went well.... ;)
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby EarthMover » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:17 pm

The Jenu & TIG. Hopefully we can find an automated solution. Tile I think is easy, but brick patterns, not so much.

Here's another trick I came up with for creating tiles on non uniform shapes, using Soap Skin & Bubble with Protrude plugins. I also used Selection toys to select softened edges and delete them -



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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby TIG » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:36 pm

You are right... Stacked tiling is working, staggered 'brick' patterns are more difficult just need to sort the algorithm for the even courses' last part-tile/brick... :geek:
Maybe tomorrow... :ugeek:
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby EarthMover » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:54 pm

No herringbone patterns then I guess! :lol: I'm assuming it would probably be easier to somehow drape repeating vector hatches onto a surface to divide it up, instead of trying to do it parametrically. Perhaps it's an idea though....a "hatch projection" tool with various extruding parameters. If there were an "angled extrude", it would open up a lot of possibilities to create things like roofing tiles and siding material in 3D. Perhaps in Sketchup version 15 when we get high poly support! :roll:
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby TIG » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:30 pm

Herringbone could be a FUTURE option!
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby EarthMover » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:31 pm

TIG wrote:Herringbone could be a FUTURE option!



That would be amazing! :D :D
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby TIG » Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:07 pm

I've stalled a bit on this... some paid teaching sessions have come up at my local University's School of Architecture [SketchUp+Ruby] so I'm sorry but some other projects have had to go onto the 'back-burner'... perhaps I could get them to finish it as part of their course if they're bright ;)
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby EarthMover » Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:32 pm

No worries my friend. Always take care of you and your family first. We'll wait as long as it takes. Good luck with the gig! :)
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby Jpac » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:39 pm

If you were interested in just creating your own texture, there is a program called brick'n'tiles. It will create a 2D texture with the criteria that you set up based on the textures that you give it.http://www.bricksntiles.com/creating-textures/
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby EarthMover » Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:06 pm

Awesome John, thanks...that will come in handy. There is also this one from Acme Brick - http://www.brick.com/md/index.htm
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby dcyale » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:24 am

Did anyone ever find a plugin that will take a flat face and convert it to a 3D brick face?
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Postby ramonbastos » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:15 pm

This is exactly what i wanted! Come on Ruby Masters, give us a xmas gift :D
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby solo » Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:57 pm

I'd also like to see something like this, hopefully something can be achieved.
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby CadFather » Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:07 pm

http://sketchucation.com/resources/pluginstore?pln=s4u_toComponents_v3.0.0

meanwhile, this might come in handy as well (make sure to check the video)
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby jolran » Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:50 pm

Hi.

was wondering if this would be of interest ?

Had a look in 2Dboolean and it's possible to add method for choosing a material for pushpull after cleanup. No tiling in this piece, though..

Need some choices in menu, ideas ? Choose material for pushpull & distance ?

Normally I got other things to do, but if you are interested I could spend a day or two on this...
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Re: (REQ) Brick & Tile Maker

Postby Justo79 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:22 pm

Apologies if this has been stated already, but I couldn't find where this request ties into a plugin that has been created on here...

sdmitch has a 'blog' - http://sdmitch.blogspot.com.au/

Scroll down to
Tile&Brick Maker - Interactive tool to create tile and brick pattern on face.
Thanks Sam
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