[Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinning)

Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby fredo6 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:57 pm

Einstein wrote:I made a loft and added a forced pair for each vertex of profile. Now there are some unnecessary pairs (yellow ones) between vertices and I was thinking if it's possible to remove them before applying the loft.
In this case both profiles - upper and lower - are hexagons. So intuitively, pairs should be created between vertices only. Instead, Curviloft connected each vertex of lower profile to edge midpoint of upper profile, which created a lot of unnecessary edges. So I'm thinking if I could force the tool to always match vertex-to-vertex when profiles have the same number of verts.

I think there is an option to match vertex to vertex.

Anyway, the best would be to post your model so that I have a look.

Keep in mind that for a human brain, you see indeed two similar hexagons, but for the script, these are two curves to match in different planes.

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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby Einstein » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:46 am

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Einstein wrote:I made a loft and added a forced pair for each vertex of profile. Now there are some unnecessary pairs (yellow ones) between vertices and I was thinking if it's possible to remove them before applying the loft.
In this case both profiles - upper and lower - are hexagons. So intuitively, pairs should be created between vertices only. Instead, Curviloft connected each vertex of lower profile to edge midpoint of upper profile, which created a lot of unnecessary edges. So I'm thinking if I could force the tool to always match vertex-to-vertex when profiles have the same number of verts.

I think there is an option to match vertex to vertex.

Anyway, the best would be to post your model so that I have a look.

Keep in mind that for a human brain, you see indeed two similar hexagons, but for the script, these are two curves to match in different planes.

Fredo


I used default method "Match vertex to vertex (when possible)" but looks like the case was interpreted as "impossible" :P

Here's an example:
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby fredo6 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:11 pm

I understand. There is something wrong in the vertex matching, also in the Loft by Spline tool. I'll need to have a closer look.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby reza1813 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:23 pm

Dear Fredo,
Hello, I kindly reach you to suggest some feature for the future update of Curviloft plugin.
1. I wonder to know why Curviloft doesn't create a surface when we have an Integrated curve. In fact, I always use the Soap Skin Bubble plugin in order to deal with this type of shape and unfortunately I have a problem to push surface properly. Would you mind any possibility to add this feature of Soap Skin Bubble plugin to the next version of Curviloft concerning to create the surface for all type of connected line and curve?
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2. Furthermore, this is the FormZ software. I wonder to know, Is there any possibility to change the type of surface and also how it is pushed and pulled in the Curviloft with some icon in order to increase or decrease it like FormZ software? (I know that there is some option in the spline method)
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby fredo6 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:14 pm

Well, there is space for several methods.

Curviloft does not use the same approach as Soap Skin & Bubble. When you have a continuous contour, you need to tell Curviloft where to break it in 3 or 4 pieces. You can use small segments for this, that is small standalone edges which you position along the contour.

For FormZ feature, this is also a different approach, based on Nurbs. The closest I see for this type of feature is Vertex Tools by Thomthom.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby Moi_SU » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:59 pm

Hi there,

I got so excited when I can accross this plugin, but sadly Curviloft is not working at all at the moment.
I have recently downloaded it - so it's a first time application.

Successfully installed LibFredo6 Version 8.9a and Curviloft 1.8a in SketchUp 2018. I can also load the CL toolset, but sadly it is not doing anything when clicking on the icons and following instructions.

Am I missing something?
Your help would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby Dave R » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:47 pm

Moi_SU wrote:Am I missing something?


Most likely. Upload your model so we can see what you are working with.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby fredo6 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:59 pm

Moi_SU wrote:Successfully installed LibFredo6 Version 8.9a and Curviloft 1.8a in SketchUp 2018. I can also load the CL toolset, but sadly it is not doing anything when clicking on the icons and following instructions.

Just in case, could you open the Ruby Console to see if there are errors displaying.

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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby Mousa_SA » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:36 pm

Hello,

I have noticed a strange behavior when I use "Loft by Spline" With half circles, it is only works if I choose 3 arcs, is it a normal behavior?
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby fredo6 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:44 pm

Mousa_SA wrote:I have noticed a strange behavior when I use "Loft by Spline" With half circles, it is only works if I choose 3 arcs, is it a normal behavior?

There is a bug with this kind of coplanar configuration, for some types of junction.

In your case, just make sure that the junction type is the 'straight line', as shown below:

Bug arc coplanar.png


I'll fix the bug later on.

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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby Mousa_SA » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:00 am

Thank you for the tips Fredo, it works fine now.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby Steve Jacobs » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:34 am

Hi,

Steve Jacobs here in Jersey UK

I am struggling to get Curviloft to load, any ideas

System Macbook Pro 2018
Sketchup Pro for Mac 2019

Screenshot below shows Fredo6 LibFredo6 installed and enabled

I sign in to Sketchucation and file downloads.

Try to open downloaded file and system gives me the message loading but hangs there for hours until I turn off the machine.

Tried many times in different combinations

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Regards


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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby Dave R » Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:41 pm

Steve Jacobs wrote:Screenshot below shows Fredo6 LibFredo6 installed and enabled


Your screenshot doesn't show. You can't just post a link to a file on your computer. Use the Upload Attachment tab below the message window area in your reply.

I sign in to Sketchucation and file downloads.

Steve Jacobs wrote:Try to open downloaded file and system gives me the message loading but hangs there for hours until I turn off the machine.


There's no need to open the downloaded file. In SketchUp, go to Window>Extension Manager and click on Install Extension (the red button at the lower left corner of the panel. Navigate to where the downloaded file was saved, select it and click Open.

A better thing to do is install the Sketchucation Tools extension, available under Resources, above, and use it to search for and install extensions from Sketchucation. It will install them without in one step so you don't have to download them and then install them via Extension Manager. It'll also remember the extensions you install with it so you can easily and quickly check for updates and install them. It'll also create a bundle of extensions that you can later use to automatically install the extensions either on a different computer or when you update to the next version of SKetchUp.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby AISmebel » Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:31 pm

Good afternoon. I have a problem with Curviloft and Curvizard plugins.
Perhaps the problem arose after updating LibFredo6.
Reinstalling the plugins did not help.
Delivered an earlier version of LibFredo6, the problem is not fixed.
Here is the link to the video: https://youtu.be/H06P-Fcx0Go
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby plot-paris » Tue May 12, 2020 5:59 pm

I have to admit, I didn' read through all posts in this thread.

Has it already been requested to have an "Upright Extrusion" option for the "Loft along Path" tool?

There are plugins out there that can do an upright follow-me operation. But none of them (as far as I know) can morph between two profiles along the way.

Therefore it would be awesome to have this functionality.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby WeeDxWackeR » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:40 pm

Hey Fredo,

I recently started using curviloft and it worked absolutely great for everything i ever did with it until now...

I'm trying to make a glass rounded swimming pool but for some reason, some edges start moving and others not.

I tried using the move tool to put the edges back where they should be but that ceated a curve that I dont want.

I wish you a great day.

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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby rv1974 » Tue May 11, 2021 8:55 am

Is there way to govern smoothing angle upon loft creation (inside the plugin)?
Out of the box I got too over-smoothed surface
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby pilou » Tue May 11, 2021 10:23 am

Give more Sections ?
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby rv1974 » Tue May 11, 2021 11:52 am

Pilou, I don't mean segmentation, I'm talking about surface smoothing (normals)
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby JClements » Tue May 11, 2021 3:58 pm

Have you tried the Soften Edges dialog?
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby rv1974 » Tue May 11, 2021 6:00 pm

The upper variant (on the attached picture) made with Soften dialog. My humble request is to get this result automatically (like profile builder does) without manual polishing afterwards.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby jgb » Tue May 11, 2021 10:05 pm

Turn "Show Hidden Geometry" on. Then using the "shift+Ctrl+erase tool" select the lines you want unsmoothed and unsoftened. You can play with combinations to get smooth unsoft or soft unsmoothed lines and that will take care of your over smoothed surfaces.

Then turn show hidden geometry off.

You can also select any line(s) and change the smooth or soft or hidden attribute in Entity Info.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby rv1974 » Wed May 12, 2021 5:15 am

Again, I suggested kind of more intelligent smoothing (similar to follow me or profile builder) IN plugin itself
Edit: extra pic added to illustrate the problem
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby jgb » Wed May 12, 2021 5:17 pm

The top back edge is also smoothed. If you unsmooth just that line and the one below (in the back) then the top will not be over smoothed.

The only other way you can get less smoothed top surface is to create a small smoothed radius on the top & bottom back edges. The size of the radius will control how much smoothing you do want.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby GrahamHowells » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:29 am

Have used your plugins for years. Now I can't load them.
Installation of Fredo6_Curiloft; Freddo6_FredoTools; Freddo6_Joint PushPull;
Subfolder missing.
Tried to install roundcorners from extension manager but it failed.

Tried to install LibFredo6 11.8a. received error message:
“undefined method ‘loadRBS’ for SCF:Module

Any advice on what I should do.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby Dave R » Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:25 pm

You might try updating the Sketchucation Extension Store installation. https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?p ... ationTools
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby GrahamHowells » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:33 am

Tried that, then tried to load Roundcorners and got this result:
UnZip Error: Could not unzip archive.

What next???
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby TIG » Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:57 am

When you say you tried 'to load' RoundCorners, how did you do that ?

There are two main ways...

1. download its RBZ file and use the SketchUp Extension Manager dialog to Install it...

2. auto-install it using the SketchUcation ExtensionStore³ dialog - find its entry and click to install.

Also remember that Fredo's tools need his LibFredo installing...

Also remember to restart SketchUp after the installations to ensure everything is synced...

After it's all successfully installed there should be tool-menu entries and toolbars etc...

PS: If you have recently updated your SketchUp installation it must be installed by selecting the downloaded installer's exe file, right-click, context-menu > "Run as administrator", with an existing installation choose 'Repair' when prompted...

Installing Windows apps in any other way, e.g. by double-clicking the exe to 'run' it, can lead to all sorts un unpredictable issues, usually affecting folder permissions etc...
Your normal user-account might have admin-powers but it it is not the same as doing it properly.

It does no harm to do the 'Repair'...
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby GrahamHowells » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:56 am

Thanks for your help, however i have tried all that.
When I start Sketchup the first notice on screen is
"Installation of Fredo6_Curviloft is probably incorrect. Subfolder is missing."

I press OK and then get the same message for FredoTools; JointPushPull and
"Script ToolsOnSurface is loaded but menus will show up only at next startup of Sketchup."

So I start the program again and exactly the same messages occur.

Tried the autp-install again and got the same message again = "UnZip Error: Could not unzip archive."

I'm running 2020 version of Sketchup.
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Re: [Plugin Beta] Curviloft 1.8a - 31 Oct 18 (Loft & Skinnin

Postby TIG » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:52 pm

The UnZIP error message suggests that the destination folder is not fully writable and SketchUp cannot unzip the RBZ archive into it ?
This can be a typical permissions error when an installation was not done using "Run as administrator"

You have not stated categorically that you have done the installation properly, or repaired it later...

Assuming you have repaired things but it's still not working then can you close SketchUp, and then find your Plugins folder which is in the folder
C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2020\SketchUp\
It's hidden by default, but using its path in Windows Explorer should get you there...
Select the Plugins folder icon, right-click > context-menu > Properties > Security
There will be several Group/user names listed - e.g. SYSTEM, maybe-Unknown [SketchUp?], Your user-name and Administrators etc...
Use the Edit... button on each entry in turn.
The entry's Permissions must be ticked to 'Full Control' > under the Allow column
After fixing all of these OK to save the changes, the changes should ripple down to affect any subfolders/files etc...
Restart SketchUp and try reinstalling LibFredo RBZ and any desired RBZ extensions.
Restart SketchUp to sync everything...

Report back...
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