Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby jaxcoffee » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:59 pm

For anyone who is interested in being involved in a historical preservation project, please visit our Google Group and site. We could use modelers and web site administration help, so come on over and join the team.

Google Approved!!
http://sketchupdate.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... aries.html


See some completed models below!

We will be starting off the project by modeling all the existing Carnegie Library buildings in California.(KMZ file of locations at links below) This will be the test case for gaging interest in this type of project, for moving into a program covering the US and other countries.

Pitching this project to the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the original Andrew Carnegie Foundation is the objective. Involvement now could turn into a much longer term projects later.

If your interested in volunteering your time and abilities now we would really appreciate your help to get this off the ground.

Thanks

http://groups.google.com/group/3d-carnegie

http://sites.google.com/site/3dcarnegie/

If anyone is interested in taking a look at the beginnings of our project and collection, it can be found here.

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... b34d864ef9

Look forward to working with some of you in preserving an important part of American architecture.

Yreka Carnegie By Leedeetee.jpg

Paso Robles Carnegie By Jax.jpg

Willits Carnegie By Museummaker.jpg

Bayliss Carnegie By Jax.jpg

Chico Canegie By Jax.jpg

Orland Carnegie By Jax.jpg

Upland Carnegie By Jax.jpg

Willows Carnegie By Jax.jpg

Dixon Carnegie By Jax.jpg

Colton Carnegie By Jax.jpg

Riverbank By Museummaker.jpg

Gridley By Lee.jpg

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... b273de8729
Eureka By Museummaker.jpg

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... a3da887a17
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Re: Need Modelers for Project

Postby Mike Lucey » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:34 pm

Jack,

This a great project and one that deserves support :thumb:

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Re: Need Modelers for Project

Postby jaxcoffee » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:11 pm

Mike Lucey wrote:Jack,

This a great project and one that deserves support :thumb:

Mike


Thank you very much Mike. I'm hoping others will see it as you and I do.

Should be interesting!
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Re: Need Modelers for Project

Postby Gaieus » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:39 am

Hi Jax,

I'd suggest to edit the topic subject to something like "Need Modelers for Project - California" as I guess if there are some people interested around there, this would catch their eyes (if, say, they are browsing the "New posts" list in the forum).

And good luck, as I told, hope that some people joins and your project will launch successfully!
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Re: Need Modelers for Project

Postby jaxcoffee » Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:41 pm

Gaieus wrote:Hi Jax,

I'd suggest to edit the topic subject to something like "Need Modelers for Project - California" as I guess if there are some people interested around there, this would catch their eyes (if, say, they are browsing the "New posts" list in the forum).

And good luck, as I told, hope that some people joins and your project will launch successfully!


PM's sent, but they are stuck in my outbox. HELP!
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby thomthom » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:11 pm

jaxcoffee wrote:PM's sent, but they are stuck in my outbox. HELP!

Means they've not been read yet.
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby jaxcoffee » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:39 pm

thomthom wrote:
jaxcoffee wrote:PM's sent, but they are stuck in my outbox. HELP!

Means they've not been read yet.



Read, as in needing approval before they send?

Never had that type of issue before. Something new?
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby Gaieus » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:20 pm

Hi Jax,

I have answered your PM as well as your email - but for the others' sake; a PM is listed in the "Outbox" until the recipient reads it - then it will "move" to the "Sent messages" box. So no bug or anything just not everybody whom you wrote has read your messages yet.

BTW - are there any takers for the project yet?
It seems to be fun - too bad I am thousands of miles away (there should be another 3D BaseCamp so that we can all visit Mountain View again!)
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby jaxcoffee » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:19 pm

Gaieus wrote:Hi Jax,

I have answered your PM as well as your email - but for the others' sake; a PM is listed in the "Outbox" until the recipient reads it - then it will "move" to the "Sent messages" box. So no bug or anything just not everybody whom you wrote has read your messages yet.

BTW - are there any takers for the project yet?
It seems to be fun - too bad I am thousands of miles away (there should be another 3D BaseCamp so that we can all visit Mountain View again!)
:D


Yes! I am very pleased to say that Patrick, Museummaker has joined in.

And we are all thousands of miles away. Remember, this is the internet. I have modeled a couple of northern California Carnegie buildings already that are thousands of miles away.

We have a great resource for this project.

http://www.carnegie-libraries.org/

These folks are sending use all the graphics they put together for this site. Talk about someone who has traveled along ways. Think how many miles these people took to get the information they did. It's amazing!

Finding these types of sites, and hunting down other information, is all part of the fun in a project like this.

Mike has shown an interest. I guess he has discovered there are quite a few Carnegie buildings in his area and in Europe also. Once we get this test case part of the project close to completion, all those other locations should be interesting to hunt out.

So! No excuses. Come join in Gaieus. We would appreciate your contribution.
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby Gaieus » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:22 pm

From a "distance", you need good images and measurements of the buildings.
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Postby jaxcoffee » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:02 pm

Gaieus wrote:From a "distance", you need good images and measurements of the buildings.


That is very true. But this GE modeling, so being spot on isn't as critical, yet we want to be as accurate as possible for the historic value we are creating.

Hoping to garner enough interest so that local folks in the location of some of the Carnegie's would be willing to gather some of that information. It's part of the challenge, especially working with some of the admin folks in the cities. Some have been very helpful, some you would think are guarding their gold. They just won't release some of what they have.

My biggest issue so far has been in my own town. Go figure. Can't get my city to release any as built drawings of our Carnegie. Fear of copy rights seems to be their issue, but working through this kind of stuff is all apart of it.

Makes it kind of sweet when you land on someone who has CAD floor plans and elevations. Makes you feel like you discovered some hidden treasure of something. Kind of cool!
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby Gaieus » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:16 pm

Then I guess I am lucky to have my city as vector plan:
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Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:37 pm

You hold hold of vector plans of your entire city?
Free or did you have to shell out some buck for that?
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Postby Gaieus » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:48 pm

Yup, the whole (with all those fancy layers they make for GIS) and free ;)
(We use them in the Museum, the Heritage Protection Services as well as the City Hall I used to work). I was allowed to have it as I do a whole bunch of works with it (would be pretty easy to quickly pull up a bunch of blocks for GE actually).
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby leedeetee » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:42 pm

Hey Jax!

I'm in!

Not sure how much time I can dedicate to this but you can be sure I'll help out as and when I can!

Just one question, what's a Carnegie?! Sorry to be a bit dense but us Brits only know it as the name of the Philanthropist and as a suffix to sports teams!
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby jaxcoffee » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:58 pm

leedeetee wrote:Hey Jax!

I'm in!

Not sure how much time I can dedicate to this but you can be sure I'll help out as and when I can!

Just one question, what's a Carnegie?! Sorry to be a bit dense but us Brits only know it as the name of the Philanthropist and as a suffix to sports teams!


Do a Google Search on Andrew Carnegie. He was the Philanthropist that donated funds for all the Carnegie Library buildings to be built. Even Though today, many of the buildings are no longer libraries, they are still "Carnegie's" and worthy of being preserved as part of the historical record.
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Postby leedeetee » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:08 am

jaxcoffee wrote:Do a Google Search on Andrew Carnegie. He was the Philanthropist that donated funds for all the Carnegie Library buildings to be built. Even Though today, many of the buildings are no longer libraries, they are still "Carnegie's" and worthy of being preserved as part of the historical record.

Ah right yes, I am aware of him and his works! Was more wondering about the terminology. :) Makes perfect sense now.

I have started my first model anyway, and hope to get it finished today (its 9am, Sunday here!). Thoroughly enjoyable!
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby jaxcoffee » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:15 am

leedeetee wrote:
jaxcoffee wrote:Do a Google Search on Andrew Carnegie. He was the Philanthropist that donated funds for all the Carnegie Library buildings to be built. Even Though today, many of the buildings are no longer libraries, they are still "Carnegie's" and worthy of being preserved as part of the historical record.

Ah right yes, I am aware of him and his works! Was more wondering about the terminology. :) Makes perfect sense now.

I have started my first model anyway, and hope to get it finished today (its 9am, Sunday here!). Thoroughly enjoyable!


Haven't seen anything yet. Stop off at one of those York pub's for a cold one? LOL! Look forward to see what you come up with.
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby leedeetee » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:31 am

jaxcoffee wrote:
leedeetee wrote:
jaxcoffee wrote:Do a Google Search on Andrew Carnegie. He was the Philanthropist that donated funds for all the Carnegie Library buildings to be built. Even Though today, many of the buildings are no longer libraries, they are still "Carnegie's" and worthy of being preserved as part of the historical record.

Ah right yes, I am aware of him and his works! Was more wondering about the terminology. :) Makes perfect sense now.

I have started my first model anyway, and hope to get it finished today (its 9am, Sunday here!). Thoroughly enjoyable!


Haven't seen anything yet. Stop off at one of those York pub's for a cold one? LOL! Look forward to see what you come up with.

Bit behind schedule but will get Yreka finished tonight. :-)

Few quick questions though, I believe Yreka was built in two parts (an extension was built in 1980) and so I am modeling both at the minute - is that the correct way to procced?

Also, despite my best efforts I am unable to find any perpendicular images of the sides of the library. I have enough info from angled photographs of the front to construct *something* resembling the real world, which is what i will do, so hope this is OK also.
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby jaxcoffee » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:26 pm

leedeetee wrote:
jaxcoffee wrote:
leedeetee wrote:
jaxcoffee wrote:Do a Google Search on Andrew Carnegie. He was the Philanthropist that donated funds for all the Carnegie Library buildings to be built. Even Though today, many of the buildings are no longer libraries, they are still "Carnegie's" and worthy of being preserved as part of the historical record.

Ah right yes, I am aware of him and his works! Was more wondering about the terminology. :) Makes perfect sense now.

I have started my first model anyway, and hope to get it finished today (its 9am, Sunday here!). Thoroughly enjoyable!


Haven't seen anything yet. Stop off at one of those York pub's for a cold one? LOL! Look forward to see what you come up with.

Bit behind schedule but will get Yreka finished tonight. :-)

Few quick questions though, I believe Yreka was built in two parts (an extension was built in 1980) and so I am modeling both at the minute - is that the correct way to procced?

Also, despite my best efforts I am unable to find any perpendicular images of the sides of the library. I have enough info from angled photographs of the front to construct *something* resembling the real world, which is what i will do, so hope this is OK also.


Upload the SKP file to the 3D Carnegie group or Google docs and I'll take a look, and instruct where I can.

Thanks for your contribution. Hope to see more!
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby jaxcoffee » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:47 pm

The amount of models for the state of California is growing for our project.

Here is a link to the collection on the 3D warehouse, showing models that have been completed and approved for viewing in the Google Earth 3D layer.

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... b34d864ef9

Come join us in modeling this great collection of unique buildings.

We just recently got 4GB of photos from a resource of all the Carnegie's in California, so for anyone who picks a building, and can't quite get the information they need from Street View, let me know and I will upload what you need to help you along.

Thanks to Lee and Patrick for being part of the modeling team. Hope your having fun!!
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby Gaieus » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:09 am

Congrats Jax, hope the project will be even more successful! :thumb:
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Collection is growing everyday, but we still need help.

Postby jaxcoffee » Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:53 pm

We really could use more help in getting all 88 of the California Carnegie buildings modeled and presented.

We have come along way in a few days, but have a lot of work ahead of us. Not to mention a lot of fun also.

Take a look!

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... b34d864ef9

Come join the team and contribute what you can.
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby Gaieus » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:02 pm

Jax,

I am really happy to see the success you have achieved so far and I could even say I am "proud" of you but I am a lazy butt and if ever I model something, that really needs to be modelled to meet my deadline.

But at least I am following the project with great interest! ;)
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Re: Need Modelers for Project - Modeling California First!

Postby jaxcoffee » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:01 am

Gaieus wrote:Jax,

I am really happy to see the success you have achieved so far and I could even say I am "proud" of you but I am a lazy butt and if ever I model something, that really needs to be modelled to meet my deadline.

But at least I am following the project with great interest! ;)


Thank you my friend. Your interest is always appreciated.

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Postby Gaieus » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:33 pm

Mike Lucey wrote:This a great project and one that deserves support :thumb:

Indeed!
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Postby museummaker » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:37 pm

I actually started using SU for GE but moved on to other uses as I got better at modeling and doing more complex things. Its actually fun to get back to some very simple models.

The Carnagie Libraries offer many types of architecture to choose from. It takes a little detective work to figure out the geometry of some of the buildings, but between GE, Street View and the large collection of photos we received they come together fairly quickly.

Thanks for your support Gaius!
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Postby jaxcoffee » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:49 pm

Gaieus wrote:
Mike Lucey wrote:This a great project and one that deserves support :thumb:

Indeed!
:thumb:


Yes! Your support and mention is a great help Gaieus.

Thank you so much.

Paso Dobles? :roflmao:
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Re: Need Modelers for Project

Postby Gaieus » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:15 am

jaxcoffee wrote:...Paso Dobles? :roflmao:

:oops:
Sorry for the typo - corrected!
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@MuseumMaker - I actually stumbled upon SU when seeing some 3D models on GE, too. It was not too much after Google acquired SU and made its first free version. I also started using it with that intention (modelling for GE) however have waded far away from that initial idea now (but who knows - maybe I will get back some time).
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Become a part of history!

Postby jaxcoffee » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:36 am

The count of Carnegie Library building models uploaded to the 3D warehouse at present is 21, but we still have a long way to go. Not to mention 49 more states and the rest of Europe.

Still hoping for more involvement from some of you outstanding modelers. Please take a moment, and have a look at our collection. Download the KMZ file that has all the locations already mapped out for you, and pick a Carnegie to model.

Become a part of history, and help us record, for all to see these amazing yet simple structures.

The collection

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... b34d864ef9

The group page
http://groups.google.com/group/3d-carnegie
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