Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

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Postby olishea » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:17 pm

Frederik wrote:I still haven't learned to like the smoke from these wapers... :|
I saw this animation the other day and will start practicing that instead... :lol:


I think it's a case of really wanting to quit as well. If you aren't ready I think you'll always prefer a cigarette. Whereas for me, I feel sick even thinking of smoking a cigarette. I know vaping will never be the same, but I've learnt to prefer it. Not just the flavours and cool gadgets, but the flexibility to just take a couple of drags here and there....especially while waiting for computer to render etc.

Which vape setup have you been using by the way? Could it just be you don't like the flavours? Or is the vapour too smooth or too harsh?
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby Gareth » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:58 am

Thats a good point Oli.

Good equipment is important, but finding good vapes in the early stages pretty well sets up the path of interest and persistence.

I bought some absolutely crap nicotine liquids which took about 4 or 5 weeks to arrive, in the meantime I was vaping some quite nice non-nic liquids. Whilst I wasn't getting the nicotine hits I needed at that stage, I did find some pleasant flavours which I was then able to order from the US with nicotine in them.

For those who don't understand what I just said, in Australia we can't buy nicotine liquids from Australian suppliers, but they do however sell liquids made in the USA which are nicotine free. This gives us the opportunity to test those flavours and either buy them direct from the US supplier, or alternatively mix an unflavoured nicotine (which we also have to buy from overseas) with the liquids in Australia which can be bought as 'doublers'.

However, because we can't easily purchase liquids, one could easily be discouraged from persisting.
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby kwistenbiebel » Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:10 am

Hi Gareth,
I went through the same, starting with 0 mg nic juice (aaah..Australia :)), and while waiting for nic juice from the States discovered some tasty flavours.
The anticipation of that together with the great testimonies in this thread made me so eager to quit smoking, that it all just happened spontaneously. :)

It does make me wonder if I shouldn't go the 0 nic route again now and see what happens.
I believe I can do it, especially with the latest drippers out there with huge air holes (Trident etc...), zero nic might still be a very satisfying experience.
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby Gareth » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:39 am

Glad you are staying with it mate.

I still have one or two nice non-nic flavours from when I started in October and vape them occasionally. I can vape them for an hour or so, but I still want the 'nic kick' though...!

I'm still vaping 18mg and should probably try cutting down to 12mg soon.

Tried an analogue stinky a few days ago....took 3 drags of it....it was disgusting....!!
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby solo » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:02 am




I did it, one year and counting, technically I did it on the 3rd (it's the 3rd in Australia so it counts)

I will never smoke again.
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby Gareth » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:18 am

Well done Pete :ecstatic:

How are your energy levels, sense of taste, general well being etc after 1 year...?
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby solo » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:29 am

Gareth wrote:Well done Pete :ecstatic:

How are your energy levels, sense of taste, general well being etc after 1 year...?


Energy level is great, no coughing in morning, office smells great, and I now have a new appreciation for cheese and wine.

I can smell a smoker a mile away and they gross me out. :?

Oh, I also saved over $2000 this last year.
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby Gareth » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:27 am

yep....i noticed food and wine and coffee tastes so much better.

If you lived here in Australia, a packet of smokes would cost you around $20 a packet....so just a pack a day smoker here would have saved around $7,500....!!

I have a serviced office in Mawson Lakes near Adelaide and smoking in this building is prohibited.....but I sit here and vape all day.

It's bloody funny when I look out of my office window and watch all the smokers standing outside in the stinking heat in summer and the freezing cold of winter to feed their smelly habit while I sit here vaping in the comfort of my office...!! :lol:

.....and it doesn't trigger the smoke alarm either
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby stefanq » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:32 pm

Congrats Pete!!!!
I'm next, two days remaining!
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Postby kwistenbiebel » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:58 am

Wow, congratulations Oli, Pete and stefan (in a day :)).
I'll be joining the one year high mile club in June.

ps: @Gareth: Just so you know, vapour DOES set of smoke alarms.
I did it by accident when i moved into my new place a month ago.
Thought it was good to tell you this... on the other hand we could have gotten a good laugh out of you setting of your buildings alarm...but we're good people here lol :)
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Postby kwistenbiebel » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:59 am

I also had the honour to try an old fashioned cigarette a few months ago after not having smoked for a long time.
Yuk, yuk, yuk, that's all I can say :)
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby Gareth » Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:11 am

kwistenbiebel wrote:ps: @Gareth: Just so you know, vapour DOES set of smoke alarms.
I did it by accident when i moved into my new place a month ago.
Thought it was good to tell you this... on the other hand we could have gotten a good laugh out of you setting of your buildings alarm...but we're good people here lol :)




Geeeeeez......thanks for telling me that...! :lol:

I haven't had a problem yet though, and I vape all day with the smoke detector almost directly above me
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby kwistenbiebel » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:56 am

well it has been reported by many people (reddit e.g).
I am guessing it depends on the type of smoke detector.
The one in my house is a 'nasty' one lol :), it also beeps when I am taking a shower and forget to put on the fan...freightening :)
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby Gareth » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:38 am

you've got me paranoid now...!! :oops:

i have googled the question of smoke detectors and vaping, and indeed there are many instances of smoke detectors being activated :lol:

it would appear that some types of detectors are more likely to be activated
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby olishea » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:18 pm

Gareth wrote:you've got me paranoid now...!! :oops:

i have googled the question of smoke detectors and vaping, and indeed there are many instances of smoke detectors being activated :lol:

it would appear that some types of detectors are more likely to be activated


I used to vape directly beneath one too with no problems. There are two different types of fire alarm for different types of fires, maybe one picks up vapour more than the other. Which leads me to wonder....which is the best type of fire alarm for a house? Could do with updating soon....off topic i know haha

Ionization smoke detection is generally more responsive to flaming fires.
How they work: Ionization-type smoke alarms have a small amount of radioactive material between two electrically charged plates, which ionizes the air and causes current to flow between the plates. When smoke enters the chamber, it disrupts the flow of ions, thus reducing the flow of current and activating the alarm.

Photoelectric smoke detection is generally more responsive to fires that begin with a long period of smoldering (called “smoldering fires”).
How they work: Photoelectric-type alarms aim a light source into a sensing chamber at an angle away from the sensor. Smoke enters the chamber, reflecting light onto the light sensor; triggering the alarm.
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby olishea » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:13 pm

So what's the deal with cartomisers?

I remember Biebel and others discussing them...the reason I ask is because the EVOD coils are becoming quite terrible.

I like to use the EVOD out and about but the coils only last a couple of days now, some just taste burnt straight out the box.

So do I need to get pre punched cartomisers? Are they essentially a tube with a dual-coil inside?

What's the difference between pre-punched and regular? I know one has a ready-made hole but what are the implications of buying one over the other?

Getting tired of "clearomisers"! haha
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby Futurepast » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:41 pm

This is the one I use (2.5 ohm)....

http://www.myvaporstore.com/SMOKTech_51 ... 10dctc.htm

On my ProVari they last about a week to a week and a half at a power setting of 4. But with this setup, if they get dropped they leak. But, I find I can clean the base, threads, and retighten everything and keep going. Just a hassle at times lol
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby olishea » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:05 pm

thanks. i'm just looking for a good alternative to the EVOD for out and about. Kayfun still working like a charm, now I've found this very convenient filling valve:

http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yx ... ts/MF-K-GR
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby Futurepast » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:27 pm

Well I think I'm going to mix my own juice :bounce:

Anyone seen this site? http://e-liquid-recipes.com/

I found these suppliers here in the states:

http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com
http://www.ecigexpress.com
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Postby olishea » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:26 pm

Recipe site looks good. Only thing you have to work out is the concentration of nicotine. For example, I use Neat 54 nicotine liquid which is 54mg....so if someone is using say 100mg nicotine for example you'll just have to work that out and adjust your recipe.

My nicotine is PG based, by choice, so that also goes into your calculation for PG/VG ratio. Some people's recipes use 100mg nicotine with a 50/50 base so again, your values would change slightly.

Here are my recipes. My final nicotine level is 12mg and I'm using Neat 54 PG based nicotine (easier to syringe).

Before I mix anything I make some AG (Aqueous Glycerol) which is 85% VG and 15% De-ionised water. I make a 100ml batch of this every now and then and just keep it aside for when I need to mix. So basically 85ml VG to 15ml De-ionised water. So wherever you see AG, this is what I mean! It helps to make the liquid less viscous.

All figures are in ml (millilitres).
All flavourings are PG based.
All nicotine is PG based.

If you want to add more flavouring, you just take that away from the PG value. So if you want 2ml more flavouring, just put 2ml less PG in. This will keep the ratios in check. If you want more nicotine, again, just add more nicotine and remove this value from your PG. Say for example you want to add 5ml more nicotine, just take 5ml of PG away. Your AG level should always stay the same (unless you use VG based flavouring or nicotine).

12mg Nicotine - 60/40 PG/VG - 10% Flavour - 50ml batch - My special mix

11.1 Nicotine
13.9 PG
20 AG
2 blackberry flavouring
1.5 cantaloupe flavouring
1.5 peach flavouring

12mg Nicotine - 60/40 PG/VG - 10% Flavour - 50ml batch - Juicy Fruit (or whatever flavour you like)

11.1 Nicotine
13.9 PG
20 AG
5 Juicy Fruit Flavouring......change this to whatever flavouring you like.

12mg Nicotine - 60/40 PG/VG - 15% Flavour - 50ml batch

11.1 Nicotine
11.4 PG
20 AG
7.5 flavouring of your choice
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby Futurepast » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:27 pm

thanks for the info! :)
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby olishea » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:09 pm

No worries. Mixing your own is easy.

I gave up using my EVOD for out and about. Kanger have changed the coils and as a result they are very inconsistent, don't last as long and are costing too much to replace.

Anyway, after not using my Kayfun for a month or so, I recoiled it and was blown away!! I see why I fell in love with it; it's just so consistent and loads of creamy vapour. The Kayfun Version 4 is coming out soon too, wonder what that will be like. My Kayfun 3.1 has been discontinued now, I guess it's because the fill-up valve is easy to block; I just unscrew mine and fill up from the top, so much easier and quicker.
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby kwistenbiebel » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:20 am

olishea wrote:No worries. Mixing your own is easy.

I gave up using my EVOD for out and about. Kanger have changed the coils and as a result they are very inconsistent, don't last as long and are costing too much to replace.

Anyway, after not using my Kayfun for a month or so, I recoiled it and was blown away!! I see why I fell in love with it; it's just so consistent and loads of creamy vapour. The Kayfun Version 4 is coming out soon too, wonder what that will be like. My Kayfun 3.1 has been discontinued now, I guess it's because the fill-up valve is easy to block; I just unscrew mine and fill up from the top, so much easier and quicker.


I always fill my Kayfuns (clones) from the top. It's indeed as easy as filling a clearomiser. I take it you are familiar with the 'hold your finger on the airhole' trick to avoid leaking.

I totally get what you mean with the Evods, I am not using them either any more, they are loud, they don't last long and eventually they either taste burnt or leak. I only like them for their stealthy form factor.
My daily stealth and bring-to-work gear consists of Iclear16's. They are fabulous when you know how to work them. It's a warm tasty little vape with not too much vapor (stealth) and a good throat hit. Trick is to fill regular so you're always more than half filled and use the lowest voltage you can. Then they last a really long time.

As to Kayfuns and at-home-vape-gear in general , Kayfuns are good.... however I am totally in love with the Taifun GT at this stage. My Kayfuns are in the cupboard as I see myself taking the Taifun over anything else :)

As to cartomizers (your earlier post), I suggest only going for double punched cartos.
Boge LR really are the best performing ones. In general, cartos give a very consistent vape, no leaking. The draw is tight because the juice is typically soaked in filler material, so you really need the double punched or slotted ones. The flavour is very 'typical', a bit muted but fine. It is considered the old fashioned way of vaping, however a lot of people still consider it as the best all day vape with the least hassle.
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby olishea » Sun May 04, 2014 11:50 am

kwistenbiebel wrote:I always fill my Kayfuns (clones) from the top. It's indeed as easy as filling a clearomiser. I take it you are familiar with the 'hold your finger on the airhole' trick to avoid leaking.


Yeah I always put thumb over the airhole but it still floods a bit. Do you have to hold it upside down when you screw it back up or something? Only floods a tiny bit but it's still wasted E-liquid.

I found a place that does really cheap E-Liquid in the UK...at bulk and wholesale prices. I ordered 200ml of Vimto flavour (which is AMAZING), should be here on tuesday or wednesday.

You can buy liquid up to 25 litres in capacity!! It basically works out to be nearly 10 times cheaper than buying premixed 10ml bottles. Basically it works out to be 50 pence per bottle instead of £5 and it gets cheaper the more you buy.

I do like mixing my own liquids but the flavourings are expensive for what they are. The liquid is so cheap from this website that it negates the money saved by mixing my own. So hopefully I've found a good place to get cheap liquid in nice flavours.


http://bluestar-eliquid.co.uk
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby kwistenbiebel » Mon May 05, 2014 3:37 am

Hi Oli,

To fill the Kayfun from the top, I always cover the airhole while filling.
When screwing on the cap, only screw it on a couple of threads and then turn the kayfun upside down. Once the liquid has settled down, you can release your thumb from the airhole and screw the top cap fully tight. It never leaks for me that way.
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby olishea » Mon May 05, 2014 1:33 pm

kwistenbiebel wrote:Hi Oli,

To fill the Kayfun from the top, I always cover the airhole while filling.
When screwing on the cap, only screw it on a couple of threads and then turn the kayfun upside down. Once the liquid has settled down, you can release your thumb from the airhole and screw the top cap fully tight. It never leaks for me that way.



Thanks Chris! I was holding it upside down but not for long enough. I was trying to do it as quick as possible.

Do you use a stainless wick with your Taifun? I was looking into buying one but I'm gonna wait to see what the Kayfun V4 looks like.

Hope everyone is getting on well with vaping!
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby solo » Mon May 05, 2014 3:39 pm

Just switched to the Aspire nautilus tank and atomizers, what an amazing vape experience, love the adjustable airflow.

aspire-nautilus-3-650x650.jpg


I recommend highly.

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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby olishea » Mon May 05, 2014 4:33 pm

Looks great Pete. My vape shop has started selling them but I wanted to know what they were like first.

Which coil do you use? 1.6 or 1.8?

How long are the coils lasting compared to your Vivi?

My mother got the Kanger Protank 3 which now has dual coils....I have to say the flavour is much improved and it looks like the coils are lasting longer too. You can also buy an adjustable airflow ring for the Protank 3 which pretty much turns it into the Aerotank.

http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yx ... ts/KN-PRO3

Kanger also do the Aerotank which has adjustable airflow as standard:

http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yx ... ts/KN-AERO

It's still nowhere near as nice as my kayfun though! :)
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby solo » Mon May 05, 2014 4:44 pm

Which coil do you use? 1.6 or 1.8?

How long are the coils lasting compared to your Vivi?


I am using the 1.8 @ 4.2

It has been a week today and still on same coil, still strong.
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Re: Any smokers here? Wanna quit?

Postby quim » Mon May 05, 2014 5:47 pm

i did it "cold Turkey" 6.5 years now
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