Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby ChristopheAdb » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:59 am

I am currently considering a complaint in my country against Trimble regarding the official SketchUp forum in which I have seen several anomalies as arbitrary censorship.

Also, I ask myself the question of the arbitrary abandonment of our classic licenses, which Trimble calls perpetually in its communication.

Is it legal in my country where companies are regularly condemned for contracts with unfair terms ?
As long as Trimble has a subsidiary and does business in my country, she can be sued in my country, not in US.

What do you think ? Do you have such rules in your country and possibilities of lawsuits against the termination of the classic license?

Are US customers protected from unilateral and arbitrary decisions by a company like Trimble?
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:57 pm

Good luck with that.
Trimble makes more than 3 billions dollars a year. I'm sure their legal department is rock-solid.
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby ChristopheAdb » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:34 am

jiminy-billy-bob wrote:Good luck with that.
Trimble makes more than 3 billions dollars a year. I'm sure their legal department is rock-solid.


This is not the question.

Companies are regularly convicted for violating consumer rights.

You will notice that the forced subscription does not apply to all countries.

Trimble does business in different countries with different rights which it must respect.

I'll give you an interesting example. Apple has already changed me a faulty motherboard after the warranty, because in Europe there is an extended warranty against hidden defects.
Ditto for Krupps who reimbursed a machine where there was a recurring failure.

Major companies are regularly condemned for contracts whose clauses are unfair.
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby juju » Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:06 pm

@CristopheAdb which country are you from?
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby ChristopheAdb » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:39 am

juju wrote:@CristopheAdb which country are you from?


From France.
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby rv1974 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:04 am

juju wrote:@CristopheAdb which country are you from?

Don't know why I have a feeling it's Pilou
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:42 am

I'm French as well.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see anything in Trimble's decision that goes against French laws. They decided to stop selling perpetual licenses, that doesn't mean existing perpetual licenses will stop working.
AFAIK, they are still fulfilling their part of the contract (having an active licensing server for these licenses).
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby ChristopheAdb » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:11 am

jiminy-billy-bob wrote:I'm French as well.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see anything in Trimble's decision that goes against French laws. They decided to stop selling perpetual licenses, that doesn't mean existing perpetual licenses will stop working.
AFAIK, they are still fulfilling their part of the contract (having an active licensing server for these licenses).



I spoke to a lawyer who thinks Trimble has no right to do so. He briefly explained to me the difference between Anglo-Saxon law, in which a contract has a little more weight in relation to strict compliance with the law.

For example, in France, it is easier to denounce an abusive clause. I remind you of the convictions in recent years of major telephone network companies.

Trimble unilaterally changes conventional licenses. We will no longer be able to update the software for technical reasons. The new products brought by Trimble are not very interesting.
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby Khai » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:05 pm

hold on.

"trimble have no right to do so."

it's their damn Product!

ok I don't agree with it, but they make it, they can do what they want with it....

what's next? I disagree with you, so you decide I should not have a PC?
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby ChristopheAdb » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:28 am

Khai wrote:hold on.

"trimble have no right to do so."

it's their damn Product!

ok I don't agree with it, but they make it, they can do what they want with it....

what's next? I disagree with you, so you decide I should not have a PC?



It is about the agreement. In Europe important companies were sued for abusive terms.
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby Mike Amos » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:46 pm

One last thing, Honey and Vinegar. Subtle difference perhaps.
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Re: Lawsuit against Trimble forced subscription

Postby cotty » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:43 pm

Because there are customers like you, I am happy to be a developer and not a salesman or lawyer...
It's not as provocative as it sounds, just a feeling.
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