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Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby sfto1 » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:02 pm

Has anyone tested and/purchased Daniel Tal's Clipping Plane Plugin?
Wondering how well it works when clipping happens very close up. His video looks intriguing, but his examples still seemed far from the object being clipped.
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby sfto1 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:59 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQi8nS2naE

I discovered a workaround, which is not as simple as a one button solution as Daniel Tal's, but its free and trying it, it seems to work fine. Not sure if it has unnoticed consequences, but it seems simple enough to reverse.

Any of you plugin masters here on sketchucation up to making one?
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby juju » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:53 pm

sfto1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQi8nS2naE

I discovered a workaround, which is not as simple as a one button solution as Daniel Tal's, but its free and trying it, it seems to work fine. Not sure if it has unnoticed consequences, but it seems simple enough to reverse.

Any of you plugin masters here on sketchucation up to making one?

Interesting how this is somehow "discovered" and only makes it "out there" AFTER clipping plane was released...
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby sfto1 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:04 pm

juju wrote:
sfto1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQi8nS2naE

I discovered a workaround, which is not as simple as a one button solution as Daniel Tal's, but its free and trying it, it seems to work fine. Not sure if it has unnoticed consequences, but it seems simple enough to reverse.

Any of you plugin masters here on sketchucation up to making one?

Interesting how this is somehow "discovered" and only makes it "out there" AFTER clipping plane was released...


Just for clarification sake, I didn't "discover" the workaround. I stumbled on/discovered the video by SUforyou (referenced above) when trying to find out more about Daniel's plugin.

Perplexed why, what seems to be somewhat simple, has not been made into a native tool after all these years of users struggling with clipping.
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby juju » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:44 pm

sfto1 wrote:
juju wrote:
sfto1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQi8nS2naE

I discovered a workaround, which is not as simple as a one button solution as Daniel Tal's, but its free and trying it, it seems to work fine. Not sure if it has unnoticed consequences, but it seems simple enough to reverse.

Any of you plugin masters here on sketchucation up to making one?

Interesting how this is somehow "discovered" and only makes it "out there" AFTER clipping plane was released...


Just for clarification sake, I didn't "discover" the workaround. I stumbled on/discovered the video by SUforyou (referenced above) when trying to find out more about Daniel's plugin.

Perplexed why, what seems to be somewhat simple, has not been made into a native tool after all these years of users struggling with clipping.

I probably expressed myself inadequately. I wasn't saying that you "discovered" it, but was referring to the person (-s) in the clip you linked to. Although I know them to be long time SU users and rather proficient at it as well.
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby Mike Amos » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:25 am

A short question if I may, why the video to make such a small point? Why not just give a simple instruction?
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby juju » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:15 pm

Mike Amos wrote:A short question if I may, why the video to make such a small point? Why not just give a simple instruction?

Because we are creative people, and creative people are visual people?
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby Mike Amos » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:12 am

I am a creative person and like to think visually, that's why I like text, so much simpler and less room for waffling. Nice.
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby samnorth » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:22 am

ThomThom's Camera tools has a shortcut to the camera parameters panel [SU menu->Camera->Advanced]

https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=tt_camera
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:39 am

juju wrote:Interesting how this is somehow "discovered" and only makes it "out there" AFTER clipping plane was released...

The "Force" checkbox was added in SketchUp 2017. We've known since then.
The issue is that it is not exposed in the Ruby API, so no extension could leverage it.
I guess Daniel Tal's extension simply found a hacky way to check this box automatically, but simulating clicks or something like that. This is probably the reason it is only available on Windows.
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby GD3Design » Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:13 pm

$50! :o

Greedy much..?
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby juju » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:15 pm

GD3Design wrote:$50! :o

Greedy much..?

Not cheap/inexpensive no.

It works (Windows only), it saves time, it saves aggrevation, it is a perpetual licence. From what I understand it makes use of 3rd party software/code which is licenced, nobody else has been able to bring a solution to market since ever.

Rather say you can't afford it, no shame in that.
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby Pixero » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:48 am

I've made a plugin that opens the advanced camera settings window on rightclick if you want to adjust clipping plane manually.

https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?p ... raSettings
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby slbaumgartner » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:56 pm

Not meaning to whine, but this all raises the question of why no such camera parameters dialog has ever been available on Mac - meaning it isn't even possible to create the equivalent of Daniel's plugin!
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby Dave R » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:19 pm

Be aware that if you set the Near value too low you can create other problems. You might end up with something like this:
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Instead of this:
Screenshot - 2_24_2020 , 8_17_54 AM.png
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby Pixero » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:08 pm

slbaumgartner wrote:Not meaning to whine, but this all raises the question of why no such camera parameters dialog has ever been available on Mac - meaning it isn't even possible to create the equivalent of Daniel's plugin!


Doesn't this work on Mac?
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby Dave R » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:17 pm

Pixero wrote:Doesn't this work on Mac?
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No. It's a PC thing only.
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby sfto1 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:47 pm

Pixero wrote:I've made a plugin that opens the advanced camera settings window on rightclick if you want to adjust clipping plane manually.

https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?p ... raSettings

Thanks Pixero!
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby sfto1 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:18 pm

Dave R wrote:Be aware that if you set the Near value too low you can create other problems. You might end up with something like this:
Screenshot - 2_24_2020 , 8_17_37 AM.png


Instead of this:
Screenshot - 2_24_2020 , 8_17_54 AM.png


Using Pixero's solution, if the z fighting effect happens, uncheck the "force" box and zoom out. The camera near distance resets and the z fighting effect should disappear.
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby Dave R » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:23 pm

Yes. I found that works. I was just advising that one shouldn't just set a very small Near value and expect it to work for all camera positions.
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Re: Clipping Plane Plugin

Postby sfto1 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:47 pm

Dave R wrote:Yes. I found that works. I was just advising that one shouldn't just set a very small Near value and expect it to work for all camera positions.

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