SketchUp 2019 release

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Your opinion on posts / posting about the latest release of SketchUp.

Poll ended at Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:10 pm

I'm new to SketchUp and am unsure when new releases are due.
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I'm sticking to version 8 free for commercial use.
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I'm using an earlier version of SketchUp and am not in the market to upgrade.
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I'm using SketchUp Free (online) and should always be up to date.
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I'm using SketchUp Shop (online) and should always be up to date.
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I'm a little disappointed with SketchUp's updates over the last years and am somewhat reserved thus.
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I've moved to other 3D software am just checking in here from time to time.
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I'm too busy to wonder about the latest release.
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I'm excited but am just not making a fuss about it.
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I'm bound by NDA's and dare not be in the same neighbourhood as discussions about new releases.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Pixero » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:21 pm

Yes it was via the license manager and yes it start with a U.
How do I get the verification code? Is that the one they will email soon because I couldn't see anywhere to request it.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby sfto1 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:38 pm

Pixero wrote:Yes it was via the license manager and yes it start with a U.
How do I get the verification code? Is that the one they will email soon because I couldn't see anywhere to request it.

There is a tab underneath the Serial Number in the license manager. If you click on it, it should email you the new serial number plus the authorization code.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby chippwalters » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:55 pm

New SketchUp 2019....no new in-demand features. Predicted this a year ago here in the thread and on YouTube. At that time I started the migration to Blender. You should check out my video at YouTube for more info: 


Also, I just relased a course specifically aimed at SketchUp artists who want to model in SketchUp and render using Blender 2.8's *FREE* realtime photoreal renderer: EEVEE. Check it out at 



FWIW, I was in a message thread predicting the lack of features for Pro this coming year, and also predicting the eventual move of Pro to the cloud, which I specifically stated would take longer than a year. I've already received KUDOS on my YT channel for the predictions.

So, I placed the above message in the SketchUp forum thread (not Sketchucation) this all started. In less than 45 seconds a moderator killed my post. So, just a heads up, it's now clear they will want to control the messaging around the dire straits of SketchUp.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby sketch3d.de » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:00 pm

chippwalters wrote:In less than 45 seconds a moderator killed my post. So, just a heads up, it's now clear they will want to control the messaging around the dire straits of SketchUp.


you mean this one:
https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup- ... /82761/126

Advertising to move away from SU in the offic. SU forum... *wow*
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Khai » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:17 pm

well I'm going to say it.

this is not value for money. compare 2019 to 18,17,16....

minor additions (at best) that could have (should have) been a point update over several versions. ignoring the polls of what ppl actually want. now a new connect service ... cos the cloud is trendy.

*sigh*

and ppl will defend these moves. not admitting the program is stagnating and they are relying more and more on the community to provide their own solutions via extensions..
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby chrisjk » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:18 pm

Is it a matter of the code base now being so old and patched that nothing really new and exciting can be added without bringing the whole house of cards crashing down?
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby dtrarch » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:19 pm

SU 2019
Just a new business model.
SU 2018 is probably good enough to stay with as a good and cleaned up DESIGN tool. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
IMO $119 per year is OK to just stay in the loop.

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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby solo » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:27 pm

SU is as good as it's going to get without totally redoing it from the ground up, plugin authors are the only reason I'm still using SU it's is no longer my only modeling app, C4D has been added to my toolbox and it is powerful and evolving at a greater rate than SU with tons more bells and whistles. If this is the new normal I see myself using SU less and less as it's becoming a bit of a dinosaur, and I dislike renting software
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Khai » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:35 pm

I think it's time to move outta my comfort zone. I have Silo and Hexagon.. and if I grit my teeth theres blender...

but none of them have the ease of Sketchup.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Pixero » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:09 pm

solo wrote:SU is as good as it's going to get without totally redoing it from the ground up, plugin authors are the only reason I'm still using SU it's is no longer my only modeling app, C4D has been added to my toolbox and it is powerful and evolving at a greater rate than SU with tons more bells and whistles. If this is the new normal I see myself using SU less and less as it's becoming a bit of a dinosaur, and I dislike renting software

When reading about Adobe acquiring Allegorithmic some think C4D is next on Adobes buy list so you better prepare for subscription there as well. ;)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby sfto1 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:38 pm

chippwalters wrote:So, I placed the above message in the SketchUp forum thread (not Sketchucation) this all started. In less than 45 seconds a moderator killed my post. So, just a heads up, it's now clear they will want to control the messaging around the dire straits of SketchUp.


Your comment is hidden but not removed. I was able to click on it and read it. :fro:
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby numerobis » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:43 pm

Pixero wrote:When reading about Adobe acquiring Allegorithmic some think C4D is next on Adobes buy list so you better prepare for subscription there as well. ;)

C4D is Nemetschek (Allplan, ArchiCAD, Vectorworks, etc.)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby rv1974 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:48 pm

numerobis wrote:
Pixero wrote:When reading about Adobe acquiring Allegorithmic some think C4D is next on Adobes buy list so you better prepare for subscription there as well. ;)

C4D is Nemetschek (Allplan, ArchiCAD, Vectorworks, etc.)

https://helpx.adobe.com/il_en/after-effects/using/c4d.html
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby david. » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:56 pm

This release just confirms that the SketchUp team gives little regard to a significant portion of their customer base. I have another high-end software app (not drawing/CAD). When they release a major upgrade, it is truly a "major upgrade". I'm confident that I'm getting value added. They also have other separate cloud based products, but they are not trying to force their customer base into a subscription. With SU, I'm consistently disappointed. I won't make that mistake again.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Glenn at home » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:25 pm

Khai wrote:...
but none of them have the ease of Sketchup.


About their only saving grace at the moment imho. It's just so damn easy in SU to get my ideas out. I have access to Form-Z but I am just so SU ingrained. IF and when Blender ever gets a way to mimic SU it might be over. ;)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby numerobis » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:29 pm

rv1974 wrote:
numerobis wrote:C4D is Nemetschek (Allplan, ArchiCAD, Vectorworks, etc.)

https://helpx.adobe.com/il_en/after-effects/using/c4d.html

https://www.nemetschek.com/en/brands/our-brands/ ;)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby function » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:37 pm

I'm curious what features they roll out 'periodically' with the subscription :shock: I mean if it takes them a year for dashed lines...
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby ntxdave » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:53 pm

david. wrote:This release just confirms that the SketchUp team gives little regard to a significant portion of their customer base.


I might be wrong, please correct me if I am, but I do not think anyone from the SketchUp team looks at the comments in this forum. :(
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby faust07 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:43 am

After reading all this, I think rather ambiguously about the many opposing and the few for-opinions.
Besides, I'm too dr... again ...
At some point I got stuck for my day work on SUp8 Pro, because it was pretty good. Then a few years later on SUp16 Pro ascended, because it was probably also stable (it actually runs ...). For my private animation fun I use SUp17 Make now because it is required for MSPhysics and also runs very well.
Since almost all plugins have reached a high level and I can sometimes even reprogram something myself, I am quite satisfied.
I think, for the visualization of my architectural designs, I will come up with the "old" program versions for a while (even with the few remaining errors).
I've been flirting with Blender, Unreal and Unity for years, never really found the time to go into it. Also, because I find SketchUp so original (rudimentary), spontaneous and somehow artistic. Here I can still hammer around on a natural stone plate with the hand ax ... and other SUp fans think that's great ...
I think that I still stick to SUp24 like this. (At work, we had a hard-to-follow flow from AutoCAD to BricksCAD to Revit within a few years, leaving SketchUp a stable component)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Bryan K » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:27 am

I am shocked and disappointed that Trimble has made Sketchup either subscription for the business version or web based and very bare bones for the free version. Neither option is acceptable to me. Software subscription is something I will never buy and web based is too slow and crippled.

It took me years to finally land a job where I was actually considering buying the Pro version at the previous price of $600, but now at over $1000, that is also unacceptable.

So 2017 is the end for me. I will probably finally learn Blender and spend another 8 years trying to master it.

At least I will finally be able to do high quality animations!
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby L i am » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:41 am

I must admit I was perplexed by those eagerly awaiting SU 2019. On the recent history of Trimble SU some were expecting something good?
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Gus R » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:54 am

It appears that Sketchup 2019 is still available for download as a 30 day trial version as with previous releases which will then lose the Pro features and revert to the typical free version after 30 days as in the past, no?
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Box » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:57 am

Gus R wrote: no?

No, it will stop working unless you add a license or subscription. Same as 2018. You have to go back to 2017 to get the trial that reverts to Make.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Dave R » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:01 am

Bryan K wrote:I am shocked and disappointed that Trimble has made Sketchup either subscription for the business version or web based and very bare bones for the free version. Neither option is acceptable to me. Software subscription is something I will never buy and web based is too slow and crippled.


And you missed the Classic license version. But a lot of people seem to be ignoring that option.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Dave R » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:04 am

ntxdave wrote:
david. wrote:This release just confirms that the SketchUp team gives little regard to a significant portion of their customer base.


I might be wrong, please correct me if I am, but I do not think anyone from the SketchUp team looks at the comments in this forum. :(



Yes. You're wrong. SketchUp team members do look at this forum.

And to david, it's unfortunate that you haven't gotten to know the SketchUp team members. If you did, you'd know that your conclusion is as far from the truth as it is possible to get.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Gus R » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:05 am

Box wrote:
Gus R wrote: no?

No, it will stop working unless you add a license or subscription. Same as 2018. You have to go back to 2017 to get the trial that reverts to Make.


Very well then. So ends Sketchup's fun run. Can't say I didn't see the writing on the wall when it was purchased by Trimble. I used Sketchup 8 for years and recently upgraded to Sketchup 17 which is working fine. I imagine Trimble will finally sell Sketchup to Lockheed Martin. ;)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Randy Hutniak » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:11 am

SU 2019 is out; check the Trimble website.
Subscription based...now at twice the annual Service and Maintenance cost. I guess it was bound to happen.

Now I have to purchase it before my 2018 ends so I can 'Train' the students I have. No discount for Accredited Trainers as far as I can tell. I did apply for the Teacher's edition $0.00 and where it asks for the School Name I put Accredited Trainer as per SU website! haha lets see what they say ;)
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Dave R » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:15 am

Randy Hutniak wrote:SU 2019 is out; check the Trimble website.
Subscription based...now at twice the annual Service and Maintenance cost. I guess it was bound to happen.

Now I have to purchase it before my 2018 ends so I can 'Train' the students I have. No discount for Accredited Trainers as far as I can tell. I did apply for the Teacher's edition $0.00 and where it asks for the School Name I put Accredited Trainer as per SU website! haha lets see what they say ;)


You also seem to have chosen to ignore the Classic license option which continues with the $120/year option as before. They haven't removed it.

As for a "teachers edition" you should contact Customer Support directly.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby pbacot » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:16 am

Bryan K wrote:It took me years to finally land a job where I was actually considering buying the Pro version at the previous price of $600, but now at over $1000, that is also unacceptable.

So 2017 is the end for me. I will probably finally learn Blender and spend another 8 years trying to master it.

At least I will finally be able to do high quality animations!


I hope you'll still be working on your legacy version, and you'll still be posting!

While I understand the sentiment. How is it $1000.00? It's $ 300/ year--couldn't they have done $250?--- ( I predict the $1199 "Studio" is pretty useless and will be dropped soon)

Although they are making it pretty clear that it will not be offered much longer, the "classic" pricing is still available. I suspect the yearly "maintenance" fee will morph into the subscription sometime in the future however--so is it possible to save money that way??? Or I guess you can "own" 2019 forever, just don't expect anything else??? Confusing?

You can still buy it Here https://www.sketchup.com/products/pro-classic

But oddly if you just go to their site or you use the links they've just mailed to the faithful...you only find this (no Classic):
https://www.sketchup.com/plans-and-pric ... ofessional
[EDIT: OK it's pointed to down at the bottom of the page, if you are looking for it, but why would you be?]
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Dave R » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:21 am

pbacot wrote:But oddly if you just go to their site or you use the links they've just mailed to the faithful...you only find this (no Classic):
https://www.sketchup.com/plans-and-pric ... ofessional


Until you take the time to read ALL of the information.
Screenshot - 2_6_2019 , 7_19_17 PM.png


That page is directed at new users. You should already have a classic license if you've been a SketchUp Pro 2018 user.
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