SketchUp 2019 release

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Your opinion on posts / posting about the latest release of SketchUp.

Poll ended at Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:10 pm

I'm new to SketchUp and am unsure when new releases are due.
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I'm sticking to version 8 free for commercial use.
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I'm using an earlier version of SketchUp and am not in the market to upgrade.
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I'm using SketchUp Free (online) and should always be up to date.
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I'm using SketchUp Shop (online) and should always be up to date.
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I'm a little disappointed with SketchUp's updates over the last years and am somewhat reserved thus.
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I've moved to other 3D software am just checking in here from time to time.
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I'm too busy to wonder about the latest release.
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I'm excited but am just not making a fuss about it.
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I'm bound by NDA's and dare not be in the same neighbourhood as discussions about new releases.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby andybot » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:47 pm

Amazing. Worst fears confirmed. :(
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Dave R » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:16 pm

andybot wrote:Amazing. Worst fears confirmed. :(


What's that?

They've fixed a mess of bugs and some issues that people have been complaining about, they added some new features that people wanted like dashed lines in SketchUp, they've made SketchUp Pro less expensive to get started in with their subscription option which also gives the user access to SketchUp Shop, an unlimited Trimble Connect storage account and other features. And for those who aren't interested in having access to SketchUp Shop and the other add-ons, they can continue with their Classic license as they've always done.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby ken » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:46 pm

I have 2018, with the maintenance license still in effect. I have downloaded 2019. It requests a license and an authorization code. Before I would copy the license from the previous version. This time 2019 says it is not a valid license.

So do I to buy another 2019 license or am I doing something wrong. I just want the classic, not interested in the $600 program.

So help if you can.

Thank you in advance

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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby pbacot » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:09 am

Ken,

Maybe this?

Tip: If you’re active in the upgrade, maintenance, and support plan, you receive an email with new license information after a new version of SketchUp Pro is released. Download and install the new version of SketchUp Pro, authorize the license, and begin using the new version of SketchUp. After you authorize the new version, your old SketchUp license expires after 60 days.


https://help.sketchup.com/en/sketchup/b ... ng-license
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Pixero » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:10 am

I think it’s what I expected.
Nothing about speed and stability for high poly models and faster import.
Nothing very impressive but at least two things are good.
DWG Import
In SketchUp you now have the ability to Import and Export Materials improving interoperability for CAD and BIM workflows

This one if it works as I hope will be of big use to me since much is modeled in Revit at work.
Getting materials in to Sketchup will save me time.

Fixed an issue where SketchUp would take focus during start up preventing work in other apps.

A good and wanted fix.
Now I can do something productive instead of looking at Sketchup loading.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby utiler » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:15 am

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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby pbacot » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:42 am

The above referenced blog says they've made SketchUp "faster".
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby ntxdave » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:58 am

pbacot wrote:Ken,

Maybe this?

Tip: If you’re active in the upgrade, maintenance, and support plan, you receive an email with new license information after a new version of SketchUp Pro is released. Download and install the new version of SketchUp Pro, authorize the license, and begin using the new version of SketchUp. After you authorize the new version, your old SketchUp license expires after 60 days.


https://help.sketchup.com/en/sketchup/b ... ng-license

I have the active upgrade, maintenance and support plan. I have had it for several years When I install the new version each year, the old version is still there and still works. It does not expire after the 60 days (or at least it never has for me).

Looks like I can continue on the same path with the Classic plan.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby function » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:16 am

dashed lines and some other stuff :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby ntxdave » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:25 am

Do not have it yet, but it appears that the dashed lines works in a way that all the sages tell us not to do. You can only use dashed lines in conjunction with a layer (according to my understanding). Which means that the layer where you are going to use dashed lines must be the "active" layer. All of the advice I have seen from the sages say that you should ALWAYS draw on layer0 and then assign the object/group/component to a layer after completing the action. Again, according to what I am seeing on the SketchUp forum, you would have to draw you objects/groups/components on a layer other than layer0 in order to use dashed lines.

Hope someone can show me that I am wrong!!
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby ntxdave » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:27 am

andybot wrote:Amazing. Worst fears confirmed. :(


Kind of my first impression also until I others corrected my understanding of some things. The Classic version and it's licensing continues the environment we have been used to. :thumb:
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby alpro » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:07 am

Can I change my vote in the poll?? I've been using Sketchup since version 6 and had really high hopes for 2019 especially with the release delay. Doesn't seem like anything to get excited over though I will hold off on judging it till I have used it for a few weeks. But the biggest disappointment is going subscription. And before people start replying with "the classic version license" just read Mark's statements again, "for the time being", so it won't be long before Sketchup is following the Autodesk empire's footprints. I would of rather had them double or triple the yearly maintenance fee. So where to go from here? Guess now would be a good time for some developers to come up with a Blender addon that at least kinda mimicked SU especially with the 2.8 release. I would buy it.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Dave R » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:30 am

Ken wrote:I have 2018, with the maintenance license still in effect. I have downloaded 2019. It requests a license and an authorization code. Before I would copy the license from the previous version. This time 2019 says it is not a valid license.


There's never been a case where you would enter your license for the previous version in the licensing fields for a new one. Nothing has changed regarding that. They have already said they will be sending e-mails in the next day or so out to those who have current maintenance agreements providing new serial numbers and keys. If you can't wait that long, you can go to the website and get the license info directly

Ken wrote:So do I to buy another 2019 license or am I doing something wrong. I just want the classic, not interested in the $600 program.


No. You don't need to buy another license. You can continue with what they now call the Classic license. You'll get SketchUp 2019 with a perpetual license.

Ken wrote:So help if you can.


I tried. I hope that helps to clarify.



Ken wrote:So DaveR do you remember when the bowlers came into style?


I ain't quite that old. :D I do remember the time ThomThom was trying to get them to have a comeback, though.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby juju » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:46 am

pbacot wrote:The above referenced blog says they've made SketchUp "faster".

yeah, I saw that too, I would love to know what/how things were made faster and if it has been quantified / qualified
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby rogalxxx » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:26 am

They made shadows faster. It seems like it does not recalculate shadows when rotating view. No ora a short delay waiting for them to reappear.

I have my license valid till the end of 2020 but I did not recieve updated license. Keep waiting or should I do something?
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby juju » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:47 am

rogalxxx wrote:I have my license valid till the end of 2020 but I did not recieve updated license. Keep waiting or should I do something?

go to licence manager section on their website, enter licence details with your e-mail, a new serial will be sent
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby sketch3d.de » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:59 am

juju wrote:go to licence manager section on their website...

besides having bought by a reseller who will then deliver the license data of rev. 2019 to the registered email address in a few hours/days.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Khai » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:23 pm

Hmm new license areas aside, not to impressed with only minor adjustments to the program and minor feature adds.

Have to see how it goes...
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby dedmin » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:36 pm

We know the future, even we try to fool ourself :? SketchUP WEB -> Subscription Only -> Sketchup WEB Pro. Imagine the future where everything is on subscription only! The big corporations own everything and we are just subscribers! And all this push to the cloud is in line with this strategy - take full control over the tools and the data!
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby rv1974 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:13 pm

Is there some way to disable this damn welcome window?
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Box » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:18 pm

Window/Preferences/General untick Show welcome window.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Pixero » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:07 pm

My checkbox is grey.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Box » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:10 pm

Pixero wrote:My checkbox is grey.

I'd guess that simply means you haven't taken up the option of a subscription or classic license. So at the moment you are running a trial version.
Once you add a license the welcome screen option will become available, just like past versions.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby slbaumgartner » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:26 pm

ntxdave wrote:it appears that the dashed lines works in a way that all the sages tell us not to do.
Hope someone can show me that I am wrong!!


You are mostly right but partially wrong.

Indeed, the new dashed lines are implemented via layers. There are some issues with this method. If you set individual edges to use a dashed line layer, yes, you will violate the standard advice to use only Layer0 for individual edges, with all of the same potential issues as before the dashed line option. This visual effect has no impact on whether edges interact with other geometry. If you set a group to use a layer with dashes enabled, **all** the edges inside that group will receive the same dash pattern, which might not be what you wanted and so will force you to create additional nested groups based on dash pattern.

However, you don't need to violate the advice to always leave Layer0 active. You can change the layer of any geometry after it is drawn without making that layer active. Also, you can toggle an existing layer between solid and various dashed patterns after the fact and everything that uses it will follow suit.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby rv1974 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:42 pm

rogalxxx wrote:They made shadows faster. It seems like it does not recalculate shadows when rotating view. No ora a short delay waiting for them to reappear.

I have my license valid till the end of 2020 but I did not recieve updated license. Keep waiting or should I do something?

I didn't feel significant speed gain. There IS adaptive degradation while orbiting (WITH shadows off). When orbit stops, shadows get back after some delay. Everything as usual. Unfortunately there is no built-in FPS counter to objectively estimate the improvement (if any)
Small Doh! moment: if the very first shadow calculation takes say 8 sec, the following shadow toggling take much less (~1-2sec).
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby rv1974 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:45 pm

The only good thing about SU2019 is I finally made myself to install all plugins from scratch).
Boy it was hard. Approx 160+ .rbzs :shock:, one working day. Last time I did it was decades ago.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Box » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:54 pm

Using sketchucation plugin store and extension warehouse I installed roughly the same number in about 30 minutes. The ones from elsewhere took a few minutes more.
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby Pixero » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:06 pm

Box wrote:
Pixero wrote:My checkbox is grey.

I'd guess that simply means you haven't taken up the option of a subscription or classic license. So at the moment you are running a trial version.
Once you add a license the welcome screen option will become available, just like past versions.


I haven't got a new license yet. Well, I got an upgraded serial ( or was that one for 2018?) but I also need a verification code. How do I get that?
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby sketch3d.de » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:10 pm

Pixero wrote:I haven't got a new license yet. Well, I got an upgraded serial ( or was that one for 2018?) but I also need a verification code. How do I get that?

via the SketchUp 'License Manager' or the supplier of your license.

The serial no of SUP v2019 needs to start with an "U".
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Re: SketchUp 2019 release

Postby rv1974 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:36 pm

Box wrote:Using sketchucation plugin store and extension warehouse I installed roughly the same number in about 30 minutes. The ones from elsewhere took a few minutes more.

Yeah I know.. But deciding what to recycle\keep takes lots of extra time, many plugins had its alternatives.
BTW I compared opening times 2018 vs 2019: 1min54sec vs 1min38sec. It's hard to tell exactly what contributed more, 1019 optimizaton or plugin cleaning
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