Toolbar Icon Size on 4K Monitor

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Toolbar Icon Size on 4K Monitor

Postby Bob James » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:52 am

I know this must have been discussed last year, but the search tool rejects "4K" as being too small to find.

I am using a 55" 4K OLED monitor set at full resolution and 300% scale. The problem is that although SU toolbar icons appear "full size", the icons for extension toolbars are too small to see. How have you who are using 4K monitors solved this problem?

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Re: Toolbar Icon Size on 4K Monitor

Postby Bob James » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:27 pm

Anybody???
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Re: Toolbar Icon Size on 4K Monitor

Postby fredo6 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:54 pm

Well, difficult to say as I don't have such monitor.

However, it would be good to understand what can be done for plugins. I guess that Sketchup has addressed the problem for itself with vector-based icons.

Do you have some plugins which have icons with 'normal' scaled size? (mine apparently do not scale).

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Re: Toolbar Icon Size on 4K Monitor

Postby Bob James » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:59 am

fredo wrote:Do you have some plugins which have icons with 'normal' scaled size? (mine apparently do not scale).Fredo

Thank you for replying Fredo :D
You can see two in the picture. There are two or three others, but all the rest are tiny,
I'm sure there are many others with 4k monitors: I wonder how they've solved the problem. I tried to do a search, but the search engine on this forum is not up to the job.
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Re: Toolbar Icon Size on 4K Monitor

Postby Bob James » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:53 pm

Here are the other four that scale correctly:

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Re: Toolbar Icon Size on 4K Monitor

Postby oceanembers » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:53 pm

Looks like the plugins that scale all have icons in .svg and .pdf(???) as well as .png

I don't know enough about the Sketchup API to comment on how the icons are being loaded
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Re: Toolbar Icon Size on 4K Monitor

Postby TBoy » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:41 pm

The only possible way in my point of view is to resize icons manually. Yes it is not the solution you are looking for. But if you desperately need resizing you can do it.
Backup Plugins folder first.
Make some test resizing of any icon from plugins folder. Remember the best size for you. For example if you use big icons original image is 24/24 px, try resizing to 48/48 or bigger - after restart of Sketchup you will see the result.
Use graphic editor supporting batch processing (XnView), search for .png, narrow the search by size of the icons - this will eliminate some pictures not used as icons, use "delete original file" + "use original path (as output)" and resize icons to size of your tests.
Sounds idiotic but is possible.
(Updating of plugins will bring back original small icons.)
May be someone can write a script to automate this task >>> Search plugins folders for images 24x24px and resize to new value...???


Obviously only one external plugin is made with .SVG icons > "PLACE SHAPES TOOLBAR" and the author - Alexander Schreyer - deserves admiration.
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Re: Toolbar Icon Size on 4K Monitor

Postby slbaumgartner » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:24 pm

I too do not have a monitor to investigate this behavior and you didn't give a list of extensions/plugins that misbehave so I can't look at them to see what they do. As of SU 2016 the Ruby API supports vector icons (svg on Windows, pdf on Mac) for toolbars. Your profile says SU 2018, so scaling ought to work. Any extension that has been revised to use vector icons **should** see them scaled. The older-style png icons will not be scaled.

But I have read that there are remaining issues with very-high-dpi displays when the scaling is set to more than 150%. You write that you have set 300%. You may be encountering that issue - though I can't explain why it would affect some extensions and not others.
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Re: Toolbar Icon Size on 4K Monitor

Postby Bob James » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:57 pm

slbaumgartner wrote:..you didn't give a list of extensions/plugins that misbehave so I can't look at them to see what they do.


Granted I did not list the names, but all of the toolbars that behave are shown:
Solid Tools
SectionCutFace
Bool Tools
3D Warehouse
Wrapr
Dynamic Components
Place Shapes
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