Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

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Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby grizzler » Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:41 pm

Hello folks, I seek your opinions please. I've been using Sketchup Pro with Enscape for the last few years and it has been great in general, although I would often look with envy upon the assets that others seem to have available. However, despite having the best SU integration of any instant renderer I've seen, I'm concerned about Enscape being harvested for its best bits by v-ray in order to improve v-ray vantage, so I'm trying to have a back up plan in place. In your view which would you say is best for those involved in landscaping work out of Twinmotion and D5 Render (I'm not including Lumion because it costs WAY too much).

I've recently downloaded both free versions and I can't really split the difference, so I'd like to know if anyone has experience of the paid versions of both. One thing is for sure, I will miss the two way interactions between SU and enscape if I do have to make the move.
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Re: Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby ntxdave » Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:46 pm

You might also take a look at Twilight Render. I think the pro version has a set of assets that might help as well (not positive of that though). It does work interactively with SketchUp also.
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Re: Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby grizzler » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:02 pm

ntxdave wrote:You might also take a look at Twilight Render. I think the pro version has a set of assets that might help as well (not positive of that though). It does work interactively with SketchUp also.


Twilight is a raytracer, I don't have the requirement for that (or the time - several hours for a video!), plus the best two raytracers are generally v-ray and Corona according to architectural types I know. Instant renderers are the only option for me as my models get quite large with buildings, terrain and masses of vegetation. Lumion has been the best out there for about a decade, but Twinmotion and D5 are nipping at its heels and they are a fraction of the cost.
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Re: Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby ntxdave » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:09 pm

Thanks for the feedback and education. Although I like it, I understand and appreciate learning about how it works.
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Re: Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:10 pm

grizzler wrote:Instant renderers are the only option for me as my models get quite large with buildings, terrain and masses of vegetation. Lumion has been the best out there for about a decade, but Twinmotion and D5 are nipping at its heels and they are a fraction of the cost.


You've answered your own question right there. Lumion, Twinmotion or D5.

Blender EEVEE engine is realtime too. There's a build on Graphicall that has SSGI for EEVEE that's really quick to work with.

Don't forget Enscape which is part of the Chaos family.

They all have strengths and weaknesses. I think at the moment Enscape ticks the most boxes. Until we see TwinMotion move to UE 5.1.

I'm sitting on the fence regards which is best. But Lumion is my last choice of the 5. Way too pricey.
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Re: Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby grizzler » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:51 pm

Rich O Brien wrote: ...Blender EEVEE engine is realtime too. There's a build on Graphicall that has SSGI for EEVEE that's really quick to work with.

Don't forget Enscape which is part of the Chaos family.

They all have strengths and weaknesses. I think at the moment Enscape ticks the most boxes. Until we see TwinMotion move to UE 5.1.


Blender looks awesome for those who create models of individual items, but I spend all of my time creating bespoke terrains for construction by others which is why I loved the SU/Layout/Enscape interoperability. Chaos buying Enscape has many of us Enscape users concerned because all of the focus seems to be on enhancing v-ray (including Vantage and Vision) rather than improving Enscape - Twinmotion and D5 have left Enscape in their dust during the last 12 months, so I'm hoping there might just be one or two who have had the opportunity to try out the full versions of both and can guide me. My first instinct is TM, but one thing that 99% of jobs that I do includes is grass, and the TM grass is annoying to say the least.

I know very little about Unreal Engine other than it is quite complicated but the end results are spectacular when done right, but I have no need for such high level of detail personally
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Re: Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby ntxdave » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:25 pm

Just out of curiosity I did search for “D5 render grass” and found some interesting results. They also seem to have a very large set of downloadable plant assets. Looks like this product is really moving in a good direction.
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Re: Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby samnorth » Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:10 pm

Perhaps have a good go with D5 free and see if it suits you. If the vegetation is important then TM is probably not ideal - at the moment. It does have quixel megascans though.
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Re: Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby ntxdave » Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:06 pm

BTW D5 Render is also a ray tracing application.

Looks like the real question is the application engine and the gpu in your system. Learning some interesting things about rendering/render engines in this thread.
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Re: Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby grizzler » Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:20 am

ntxdave wrote:BTW D5 Render is also a ray tracing application.

Looks like the real question is the application engine and the gpu in your system. Learning some interesting things about rendering/render engines in this thread.


Twinmotion is also capable of raytracing as of the last few months, but they are both better known as instant renderers as they will never match the realism possible within v-ray, corona or Unreal Engine etc.

It all comes down to the vegetation asset library available in the fully licensed version of each, and as yet I don't know how they compare and I'd hate to shell out money to then find the other one is better :lol:
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Re: Which instant renderer is best for Landscape projects?

Postby pilou » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:19 pm

Maybe interresting to know : Twinmotion is free (infinite trial) for no commercial use in 2K! ;)

What am I allowed to do with the Twinmotion free trial?
The Twinmotion trial is freely available for anyone to use for an unlimited period of time for testing the product; it may not be used for commercial purposes. The trial includes the full features of Twinmotion, with the exception of exports being limited to a 2K resolution.


Else cool functions with the UI using by a 8 years old boy! :enlight:



And Animation can be made in a glance! :)

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Postby ntxdave » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:05 pm

Very interesting animation tool. Thanks for sharing Pilou. :thumb:
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