by thomthom » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:17 pm
OverviewAutomatically softens and smooths autofolded edges created by the native Move, Rotate and Scale tools in SketchUp. AccessPlugin > AutoSmoothView > Toolbars > AutoSmoothRequirements- SketchUp 8 or newer (Preferably M4 or newer)
- TT_Lib2 (v2.7.0)
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tt_autosmooth.rb 
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by Rich O Brien » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:26 pm
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by pilou » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:24 am
Very tricky for the aspect of a volume but an headache for refind and correct the coplanar faces! 
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by Rich O Brien » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:46 am
That's probably my most sought after tool ever....now if someone could write an exporter to obj that picked up these pseudo-quads and exported as a quad it'd be pretty sweet.
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by thomthom » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:15 am
Pilou wrote:Very tricky for the aspect of a volume but an headache for refind and correct the coplanar faces! 
Say what? 
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by pilou » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:17 am
No problem! It's just when you see the volume you think that is right, but some "hidden" faces are no coplanars  So there is a problem somewhere! A point is not at the correct x,y,z value! But witch ? Right but false.jpg
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by thomthom » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:19 am
Rich O Brien wrote:That's probably my most sought after tool ever....now if someone could write an exporter to obj that picked up these pseudo-quads and exported as a quad it'd be pretty sweet.
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Thanks for the cookie! It might not be so much work to make such an exporter of could take an free one that was open for redistribution and combine it into QuadFace Tools.
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by pilou » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:27 am
Does this more clear with my image above ? 
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by Rich O Brien » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:02 am
If I could make a suggestion.... If somehow you could disable inferencing on ALT down it'd be great. 
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by thomthom » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:37 am
Pilou wrote:Does this more clear with my image above ? 
I'm afraid no. I don't understand what happens there and what are you expecting? Rich O Brien wrote:If somehow you could disable inferencing on ALT down it'd be great. 
Unfortunately no, only way would be to recreate the native tools.
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by Rich O Brien » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:39 am
Ok, still an awesome tool.
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by thomthom » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:52 am
Saying that though, I'm currently recreating Move, Rotate and Scale for BezierSurface. Might spawn them off as a separate thing at some point.
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by pilou » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:25 am
I'm afraid no. I don't understand what happens there and what are you expecting?
Happen nothing special: it's correct Plugin function  Expecting nothing special : Maybe I don't understand the "smooth" in general? Does it allow to see a perfect volume in hidde some edges Does it allow to see a perfect volume in hidde some edges even some faces are not coplanar ...
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by thomthom » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:31 am
Volumes? Are you thinking of solids? This plugin isn't related to solids - it works on any geometry. Pilou wrote:Expecting nothing special : Maybe I don't understand the "smooth" in general?
You know when you modify some geometry and SketchUp triangulates the face because it's not planar any more? This plugin makes these edges Soft+Smooth - like when you Ctrl+Erase, or enable the Soft and Smooth checkboxes in the Entity Info. I'm afraid I still do not understand what you are asking... 
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by Rich O Brien » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:47 am
I think Pilou thinks that if you move a point to make a non planar face that the resulting skin will be correct. As in a type of make planar but Pilouified
This tool does not smooth a face it smooths the harsh edge that the default move tool creates.
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by pilou » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:55 am
This plugin makes these edges Soft+Smooth - like when you Ctrl+Erase, or enable the Soft and Smooth checkboxes in the Entity Info.
This tool does not smooth a face it smooths the harsh edge that the default move tool creates.
Ok we are agree! My image above show the same!
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by thomthom » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:08 am
Right, yes, this plugin doesn't make a face planar.
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by thomthom » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:25 pm
Rich O Brien wrote:now if someone could write an exporter to obj that picked up these pseudo-quads and exported as a quad it'd be pretty sweet.
Rich, does the OBJ format support non-planar quads? Are you trying to exchange data between SketchUp and Blender?
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by Rich O Brien » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:04 pm
thomthom wrote:Rich, does the OBJ format support non-planar quads?
Yes. But Blender will export a nonplanar quad as 4 tris, well that's how SU imports a untriangulated blender .obj export. thomthom wrote:Are you trying to exchange data between SketchUp and Blender?
Not just Blender. Most apps I use exchange nonplanar obj quads Why?
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by thomthom » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:08 pm
Four triangles?
Can Blender import this mesh and the quads are restored as quads - or are they now triangles?
And you provide a small sample OBJ file? I could write an export utility into QuadFace Tools.
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by Rich O Brien » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:11 pm
What you want?
Blender .obj export
SU .obj import saved as .skp?
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by thomthom » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:14 pm
OBJ file from Blender with non-planar quads. I'd like to see how Blender generates them.
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by shawnkelly » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:34 am
I would be interested as well, simply because I am not so sure that it does such a thing.
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by thomthom » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:41 am
It does - Blender exports non-planar quads.  I already got an exporter in the making.
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by Rich O Brien » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:50 am
Thom,
I notice that if I have the move tool selected and then activate auto-smooth it fails to smooth.
You may have mentioned that in the video but I missed it...
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by thomthom » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:10 am
Ah. That world be a bug. As I always tap Space and activates the Select tool, so I didn't test the scenario of having one of Move, Rotate or Scale already activated.
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by Rich O Brien » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:29 pm
copying a mesh with CTRL+Move will make the mesh edges soft/smooth as in this .gif.... auto-smooth.gif
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by thomthom » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:25 am
Doh! Hmm... that's be tricky to catch...
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by Ahmed0007 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:51 pm
not work with TGI Move 
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by Ahmed0007 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:59 pm
not work tgi move any advice?
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