[Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby Bandika » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:59 am

Me too. Strange, that it did not freeze, it worked, finally it made it - just in one and a half ours. I worked in two files that time, it was exactly the same. I am happy now that it works again:)
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby rv1974 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:36 am

Fredo, is it possible to add ability to assign (globally ) front face materials to corresponding back faces AND preserve front faces texture coordinates?
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby fredo6 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:11 am

rv1974 wrote:Fredo, is it possible to add ability to assign (globally ) front face materials to corresponding back faces AND preserve front faces texture coordinates?

In principle, the UV are mirrored on the backface.

Can you first try FredoTool:ReverseOrientFace to see if this does the job with the good mirroring on the back face.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby rv1974 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:14 pm

In principle, the UV are mirrored on the backface.

Can you first try FredoTool:ReverseOrientFace to see if this does the job with the good mirroring on the back face

In my tests your ReverseOrientFace is completely OK on transferring UV's when flipping.
Does it mean you potentially could add my request to ThruPaint or ReverseOrientFace?
Off-topic Minor issue: In ReverseOrientFace I can't make make tooltips work (they are enabled and SU restarted)
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby fredo6 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:59 pm

Just to be sure, you want a very unusual behavior, which is that the UV on the other side of the face are different.

In Sketchup, ThruPaint, etc... the flipping of faces or the painting on both sides of a face keeps the UV identical (so that if the material is transparent, you see only one texture).
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby rv1974 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:04 pm

In simple words I need singe click solution that'd take everything I see on front and apply in exact manner to the back (no matter what happens currently on the back, it will be replaced with front textures).
Theoretically ThruPaint is good if you'd start from the scratch and use TruPaint exclusively all the way.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby fredo6 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:22 pm

Do you have an example. I am still not sure of what you want.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby rv1974 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:45 am

The same components with the same material applied, but with randomized UV's..
Is it theoretically possible in current SU? Maybe some trick thru dynamic components?
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby fredo6 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:32 pm

rv1974 wrote:The same components with the same material applied, but with randomized UV's..
Is it theoretically possible in current SU? Maybe some trick thru dynamic components?

Still not clear...
Component instances behave the same when you paint their elements. And there is no control of UV when you paint their instances.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby summerson1990 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:18 pm

Why is there a limit for only 5000 faces interactively refreshed while manipulating with the texture? Sometimes it's not possible to see interactive results on high poly meshes.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby fredo6 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:50 pm

I could increase the limit, as apparently machines become more powerful.

Still, what it means that you can preview the 5000 faces around the face where you manipulate the gizmo. So It should be sufficient to see what is going on.

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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby summerson1990 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:24 pm

fredo6 wrote:I could increase the limit, as apparently machines become more powerful.

Still, what it means that you can preview the 5000 faces around the face where you manipulate the gizmo. So It should be sufficient to see what is going on.

Fredo


I think my GIF screen record above shows that in some cases it's not so comfortable to see what is going on when we've got a highpoly surface. Did you see it? Of course I can make a position of texture I need in other ways. But I was just interested about why did you do such a limitation and ask if it's ok if you could allow us to increase this value.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby fredo6 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:31 am

summerson1990 wrote:But I was just interested about why did you do such a limitation and ask if it's ok if you could allow us to increase this value.

As you show in the GIF video, the interactivity of the transformation is slowed down when you use a high number of faces.
It's OK for increasing the number, but you may then suffer from a lag as you play with the gizmo.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby goldviper » Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:23 am

Please help
How can i enable nodes for non uniform scale
my Thrupaint only has pink node for uniform scale?
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby fredo6 » Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:28 am

goldviper wrote:Please help
How can i enable nodes for non uniform scale
my Thrupaint only has pink node for uniform scale?

The non uniform scaling is only available when you paint with the Quad Mesh UV or the Project UV modes, not with the Natural mode.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby germscb21 » Sat May 16, 2020 4:15 am

Hi guys, i tried to download but it keeps loading forever and it never actually downloads it. I tried also downloading from the extension manager or directly from fredo tools in skp, but it doesnt work.. plzz heeelp
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby kakashi66 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:48 am

Is this plugin still available? It doesn't come up with any search.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby pbacot » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:54 am

TruPaint is now installed as part of FredoTools. See first post above, and read down towards the bottom, or go look for FredoTools.

For that matter I don't know if the search is working right on the store, but you can find FreodTools in a full listing of Fredo6 plugins in the search
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby Dmeat » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:03 pm

hi everyone, is the downloadlink broken, or is it just me?
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby TIG » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:59 pm

What 'downlink' ?
https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=FredoTools
works fine...
You do need to be logged in to the PluginStore ??
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby maxder » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:48 pm

I have been modeling in SU for years and have gained so much from the plugins and discussions with Fredo, Thom Thom, Tig and many others.

But I have been going in circles figuring out a UV workflow for taking my SU model into UE4 using Datasmith. My architectural forms are not super complex or organic, but a fair amount of curved surfaces and some double curvature. I have been using SubD and Quadface Tools.

I have played with SketchUV, Wrap-r and Thrupaint. Thrupaint is the most intuitive to me, but it says that it is not actually UV Mapping, and I don't know enough about UV to know what that means. Will it get me into trouble in UE4 (which I haven't trained on yet)? Or will it be enough for Datasmith to convert properly?

I haven't been able to get SketchUV to work with SubD quads unless I de-triangulate, which in turn messes with my curved geometry.

I thought Wrap-r was the solution when I unwrapped and textured the control mesh, but then it is distorted when I SubD. Unwrapping the subdivided mesh seems to be a royal pain. I am not trying to add edge wear or anything at least in SU, just want stand-in metal, stone and wood textures, but as seamless as possible.

Again, Thrupaint is the most intuitive tool for me, but is it UV mapping or not? I appreciate any help anyone can give.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby jonorman » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:30 pm

Are there any known issues with Twinmotion and its sync plugin ??? Each time I reload the models after saving, i have to retexture in Twinmotion.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby pilou » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:03 pm

Sorry no problem for me : with ThruPaint or Not!
The Sync works like a charm! :fro:
(Su 2017 Make --> TwinMotion 2019 free )
I believe that we must have the SU Pro for Sync with free TwinMotion 2020 ?

When you say "reload" what is exactly ?
Direct from SU with the Twin Sync plugin or a simple reload inside Twin after saved a SU FIle ?
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby jonorman » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:56 pm

Ok, a bit short explanation :-)

Example.

I model a pipe, steel pipe. Create a material in SU and load a albedo image. Then i use Fredo`s Thru paint (latest version) and i texture it using Quadmesh UV mapping.
The texture add`s nicely in SU and I`m all happy to send it to TM using the sync tool (No merging, keeping all objects)
When the model shows up in TM, i load the rest of the textures, roughness, metallic and bump.
The model looks good in TM.
Now I save the model in SU and TM and shut down for the day.

Next day: Open SU model, open Twinmotion model.. Maybe I add somthing in SU, maybe a second pipe, using the same workflow as described above, and syncing with TM The material i added on the first pipe the day before are gone and replaced with the one from SU.
I have to reload all the other maps. Rough, metallic and bump..

This happens every time. I found another comment on this issue in the TM forums, saying it had to do with our favorite mapping tools, Thrupaint.. :? (I don't belivee it :-D)

Hope this makes sense :-)
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby misticalages » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:11 am

Hello dear Fredo,

I come across a problem regarding ThruPaint, makeing it exporting separate material for each face, which i don't want it to happen. :ugeek: Final model exports and it has for like 238 materials and so...

I encountered and found out when i was changing the material and deleting it, the error it never happens. :|

Using Sketchup 2020 and the last FredoTools on the sketchUcation.



Thank you.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby suprachs » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:37 am

I am using sketchup pro 2020, installed ThruPhaint, does not show buttons, images cannot be used.
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Re: [Plugin] FredoTools::ThruPaint - v1.3a - 20 Oct 16

Postby fredo6 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:20 pm

suprachs wrote:I am using sketchup pro 2020, installed ThruPaint, does not show buttons, images cannot be used.

Are you on Sketchup 2016?

If so, you need to take the legacy version of LibFredo6 and the legacy version of FredoTools.
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