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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:44 pm

Tutorial #1 - Extension Overview:



Footnote: The bug encountered at the 16:00 min. mark has been identified and corrected.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:09 pm

There is always more that can be done. Just remember though I am juggling four different extensions now, single handed and each one is very deep (and broad). So my time to devote to any one plugin or request is becoming much more selective.

If you would like to have a feature added I need more details:

1.) Most common configuration and manufacturer.
2.) Some indication of how much this feature would be used (does it fit the 90% rule).
3.) Commercial or Residential application.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:36 am

Version 0.9.1b - 02.19.2019
- Enabled the ability to draw outlets with any wall geometry (removed the dependency on the Medeek Wall extension).
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:18 am

Version 0.9.1c - 02.19.2019
- Enabled the ability to draw low voltage outlets, load centers and light fixtures with any wall geometry (removed the dependency on the Medeek Wall extension).

The plugin is now fully independent of the Medeek Wall extension and can function as a standalone extension.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:33 am

Its funny how some of my best thinking is done when I am doing totally unrelated tasks. While I was cleaning out my garage and mini-van on Sunday afternoon I slowly started working out how to handle ceiling mounted light fixtures, almost unconsciously before I was aware that I was working on the problem.

After giving this topic a rest for a few days and then revisiting it again this evening it is now clear to me that in order for this to work properly I really need a "Story" or "Levels" module or plugin that actually works across all of the plugins. This Levels module is also needed for the other plugins in the mdkBIM suite, especially in relation to estimating.

This becomes critical for the electrical plugin because when you start placing fixtures into a ceiling you need to know where the floor is in relation to that ceiling. Or to be more precise you need to know which floor to assign the light fixtures to so that the 2D symbols are drawn at the appropriate Z height and hopefully are at the same level as the rest of the electrical symbols for that level (ie. wall mounted electrical fixtures), regardless of the ceiling height.

If the absolute Z height of the Level is changed then the 2D symbols assigned to it will need to move up or down to make the adjustment. The easiest way to do this is to place all of the 2D symbols (ceiling light fixtures only) in an over arching group that is separated from the separate light fixture groups themselves. When the Level Z height changes you only need to move this main group and not each 2D symbol.

The potential downside with this particular system is that if you manually move one of the light fixtures in the X-Y plane or laterally then the 2D symbol does not follow it and is out of sync (out of position). The way around this problem is to possibly setup an observer so that if a ceiling fixture is moved the 2D symbol is simply deleted and redrawn. When a ceiling fixture is deleted a similar situation occurs, however the symbol will always belong to the appropriate main group and have a tag (instance name) that matches the ceiling fixtures so that it can be easily purged from the main group.

The draw tool will not only be looking at the group (ceiling group) but also at the face when placing the fixture. The exact point selected on the face will determine the actual placement of the fixture. The height parameter (fixture to floor distance) as it is currently defined has no meaning and will be greyed out however for certain suspended fixtures it can be used at the "suspended height" thereby determining the height above the fixture to place the junction box within the suspended ceiling.

There is quite a bit to consider when it comes to ceiling mounted fixtures, I'm sure I haven't considered every possibility yet and there may even be a fatal flaw in some of the organization explained above but at least I wanted to get some of my thoughts down in writing before they evaporated away like a morning mist under the noon-day sun.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:23 pm

I will no longer be posting updates to this thread.

If you are interested in new developments or the continuation of this thread please visit:

http://design.medeek.com/smf/
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby juju » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:24 pm

dang

registered, how long does approval take?
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby MtnArch » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:16 pm

It took a couple of hours for me .. hopefully Nathan's gotten yours out to you too by now.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:48 am

Version 0.9.6 - 03.09.2019
- Fixed bugs related to compatibility with SketchUp 2015.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:44 am

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:13 am

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:21 pm

Version 1.0.0 - 03.23.2019
- The Medeek Electrical extension moved from BETA status to initial full release.
- Created the HTML edit panel menu and enabled editing for load centers (service panels).
- Created the HTML edit safety device menu and enabled editing for wall and ceiling mounted safety devices (exit signs, smoke detectors, CO detectors, horn/strobes).
- Created the HTML edit light fixture menu and enabled editing for wall and ceiling mounted light fixtures.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:58 am

Tutorial 2 - Light Fixtures (17:50 min.):

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:28 pm

Justin Geis with SketchUp Essentials just posted a review of the plugin:



Overall I think the video is excellent however the demo was of version 0.9.6 so he was not able to demonstrate the parametric ability of the plugin.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:12 am

Version 1.0.1 - 03.28.2019
- Parameter hightlight (input) color added to General tab of global settings.
- Fixed a bug with the safety devices module.

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:39 pm

The light fixture module actually needs to be more like the safety device module where you have a custom library for certain classes of lights and the corresponding symbol.

I need to add in the following light types and symbol:

- Vanity

- Fluorescent (surface, suspended, recessed)

- Ceiling Fan

- Ceiling Fan w/ Light

- Canister (Can Light)

- Surface

- Suspended

I'm also debating whether to add in something for enclosed vents/fans for (bathrooms, laundry rooms, kitchens). Technically this is part of the HVAC or mechanical system but usually gets tucked into the electrical plan, thoughts?
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:11 pm

I will be adding in an additional toolbar "Medeek Electrical II":



This toolbar will be for misc. electrical devices that do not fit neatly into the categories already provided (switches, outlets, low voltage, load centers, safety, light fixtures).

The first two items that will be added are: Heaters, Vent (fans)

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/ ... al-Heaters

Heaters will include items such as cadet wall heaters, shop/garage ceiling mount heaters etc...

Vents will include typical ceiling mount vent fans for bathrooms, laundry and kitchens. Regular ceiling fans and ceiling fans with lights will actually be included with the light fixtures module.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:37 am

Version 1.0.2 - 04.01.2019
- Created the Medeek Electrical secondary toolbar, with two additional functions/tools: Draw Heater, Draw Vent.
- Enabled the ability to draw ceiling (garage/shop) and wall mount heaters.
- Enabled the ability to draw ceiling mount exhaust fans, with or without light.



If you would like to see a specific piece of electrical hardware or device added to the plugin please let me know, I am very open to suggestions on how to make this plugin more useful.

I've had numerous requests for extending the plugin to encompass the British electrical standards however no one has sent me any literature (or links to literature, manufacturers etc...) or low poly models. I am interested in making this plugin more universal and extending its coverage to other electrical standards however I don't have enough experience with these others standards yet and I will need more guidance if I am to do this correctly.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:42 pm

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:15 pm

I need to add in the option for ceiling fans and ceiling fans with lights.

What would be the suggested 2D symbol for these two light fixture options, I would like to keep it fairly simple but appealing.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:46 am

Ultimately the number of included electrical devices and fixtures will probably exceed the amount of devices that I want to package as default with the plugin. My thinking on this is that down the road I can provide "packs" that the user can drop into the appropriate plugin library sub-folder to add more pre-configured components to the plugin.

For example the commercial electrician or designer may want a much larger selection of fire and safety devices than the average residential designer. It doesn't make much sense to overly bloat the plugin size to include all of these specialized electrical components when most of the user base will not use them. Rather it makes sense to provide these electrical device "packs" as an upgrade type feature where the user decides for themselves which additional devices they would like to have available for their use.

Also if enough people utilize this plugin it may also garner the interest of some of the manufacturers who then might be willing to provide some "official" models of their hardware (low poly preferably) for use within the plugin. Looking at a number of manufacturer's websites lately and there is only a handful that provide any sort of 3D models and those are usually in Revit. I would like to see more SketchUp models become available.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:46 am

Version 1.0.3 - 04.03.2019
- Added an advanced option for outlets to display the outlet height with the 2D symbol.



If this advanced option proves popular I can also add it to switches, low voltage outlets, safety devices (wall mounted), and light fixtures (wall mounted).

This advanced option is per customer request.

On my own electrical plans I typically don't call out the switch or outlet height however in some cases I have provided a height call out with GFCI outlets installed in the garage.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:52 am

First look at wall mounted (surface) fluorescent light fixtures:



First look at vanity light fixtures:

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:44 pm

Version 1.0.4 - 04.06.2019
- Added the following light fixture categories and symbols: Surface, Recessed, Vanity, Ceiling Fan, Ceiling Fan w/ Light, Fluorescent (Surface Mount).



Now that I've reworked the light fixture module it is much more conducive to adding in additional light fixture categories/types, at some point I may even allow the user to add in custom categories. I still need to add in the fluorescent suspended and recessed categories and their corresponding symbols. However, I usually won't add in a category until I have a minimum of one default fixture to place into the library for that category.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:42 am

Version 1.0.4b - 04.07.2019
- Added the following light fixture category and symbol: Fluorescent (Recessed).



Included fixtures are a 2x4 and 2x2 troffer.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:26 pm

Version 1.0.4c - 04.08.2019
- Added the following light fixture category and symbol: Fluorescent (Suspended).



The only other major type of lighting that is missing is track lighting and possibly some variants of existing lighting types that indicate they are LED rather than fluorescent or incandescent.

With fluorescent lighting there is a small text file in each library sub-folder that specifies the dimensions of the light fixture. Technically the numbers for each light fixture can be set to any value (width, depth, length), they are only used to provide the wireframe preview and help with the placement if you toggle the fixture justification. I will put out a tutorial on how to use these config files and setup your own custom fixtures.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:11 am

There seems to be a demand for the height callout next to the various electrical devices so I'm working at adding it to all wall mounted electrical devices.

First look at the height callout for switches:

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby juju » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:37 pm

Nathaniel, maybe you should create a mechanism whereby the end-user can format their own symbols according to your method? So I can have my own custom models (and variety) but how they are structured needs to conform to your methods to work flawlessly with your extensions. You can keep your examples in there, for reference or if end-user doesn't want to go through process of creating their own.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:49 pm

Version 1.0.4d - 04.09.2019
- Added an advanced option for switches and low voltage outlets to display the device height with the 2D symbol.

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:42 am

Users can already create their own models for certain fixtures and then simply upload them into the appropriate library folder. For example there are currently nine sub-folders within the light_fixtures sub-folder:

ceiling_fan
ceiling_fan_light
fluorescent_recess
fluorescent_surface
fluorescent_suspended
recessed
surface
suspended
vanity

The user can put as many pre-configured *.skp files into these sub-folders as they like and the plugin can then utilize them.

Each of these light fixture types entails a specific 2D symbol which the plugin provides. Also the categories currently cannot be altered or added to. In the future I may devise a system whereby the user can add new categories for a device type and also their own custom 2D symbols, I'm just not there yet.
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