Medeek Wall Plugin

Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby pbacot » Sat May 05, 2018 7:11 am

Looks Great!
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue May 08, 2018 5:52 pm

Preview of the Opening Edit and Delete Functions:



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I am now working on the opening move function or tool.

The creation of the html menus for the window and door edit functions took a couple days due to the shear volume of the number of parameters involved. I have been very busy working on the plugin the last four days especially with debugging and testing.

As I actually test the features out sometimes new ideas come to me or even a better way of doing something so I also get dragged down into some rabbit holes as I am debugging and correcting the code.

I am wondering if it would be helpful with the wall, window and door creation tools to show a grid (every foot or six inches on center) that can function as an aid that the use can snap to?
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue May 08, 2018 10:07 pm

This is an update on the previous "todo" list and the current status of various high priority items:


1.) Wall and Window edit, move and delete functions/Tools.

Edit and delete is complete, currently working on the move function.

2.) Global Setting tabs for Window and Door settings.

Parameters have multiplied five fold, will need to spend more time adding in all of these new parameters.

3.) Rudimentary Door and Window plugin that integrates with this plugin tightly.

This is complete, three door types, three window types, more variants to be added after initial release.

4.) Wall Move and Split Tool.

Wall move tool is planned prior to release, split tool will probably be after.

5.) Add air gap parameter for the cladding (ie. brick fascia).

Done.

6.) Auto corner configuration

Approximately, 50% complete, more debugging and testing required.

7.) Polyline Wall Tool and Face Wall Tool (right now all you can do is create a single segment at a time).

Polyline tool is now planned prior to release, face tool is on backburner until requests drive it to top of list.

8.) Final clean and addition of any additional parameters to the Global Settings.

This is part of item #2.

9.) Further refinements to the Add Window and Add Door Tools.

Complete for now, some additional error checking could be added to check for impossible geometry situations.

10.) Gable/Shed Wall Tool.

This is planned after initial release, for now.

11.) Add glulam beams to Window and Door header options.

This will be added when the garage door module is added, which will probably be post release.

12.) Update Wall Plugin web page.

Will attack this just prior to release of plugin.

13.) Additional logic for interior walls

This needs attention before release of plugin.

14.) Mitered corners for cladding.

Code is in place however further testing and debugging required.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Wed May 09, 2018 3:23 am

Okay that was easy:





Six panel doors are now part of the plugin.

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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Wed May 09, 2018 10:42 pm

Still mucking around with the Wall and Door Move Function:



It's actually working quite well however I am trying to figure out how to add a grid next to the wall that the cursor can inference from and snap to regular intervals.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

I will say the move tool is quite handy and a bit faster than using the edit function.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Thu May 10, 2018 2:21 am

The opening move tool is giving me some headaches:

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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby mpacey » Thu May 10, 2018 3:22 am

What if you "auto-hide" the trim when the move command is selected, then you would have the wall edges to inference to. Is that even possible? I'm not a coder.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Thu May 10, 2018 2:36 pm

mpacey wrote:What if you "auto-hide" the trim when the move command is selected, then you would have the wall edges to inference to. Is that even possible? I'm not a coder.


The point is that I want to not have to inference against anything to have the move arrow smoothly extend either side of the opening.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Fri May 11, 2018 3:02 am

The opening move tool is now complete and I am now working on the wall move tool along with the wall polyline creation tool and the auto-config for wall corners. This is the last major item(s) on the todo list prior to release. All other items are fairly minor in comparison and constitute mere housekeeping rather than actual significant development.





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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Fri May 11, 2018 3:25 am

Every stud, plate and header is there, if you want it.

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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Fri May 11, 2018 6:30 pm

I've added a callout option so that when the designer is in the 2D mode the window and door sizes and types are called out:



This particular option can only be set in the global settings.

One thing to note is that the door handedness and the window type are only in the callout if the user has specified a particular door or window type to install. If the advanced options are not enabled then only the opening size will be displayed (ie. 3068 vs. 3068LH or 3040 vs. 3040SH).
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby pbacot » Fri May 11, 2018 6:48 pm

That's nice! I've had a CAD program for decades that has never added this simple feature. Often we go to schedules with a symbol or more detailed info on the plan but during design this would be great so anyone (including yourself) can look at the drawing or model and know what size is drawn. As for handedness, I don't like to put it on the plans. I am convinced that people just don't agree what it means. I can quickly find a diagram online that shows it opposite from what you show. Great additions though! Thanks!

I know the lines dividing the different wall lines relate to framing or modeling in your case but traditionally there are no lines drawn at the wall intersections in plan.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Fri May 11, 2018 7:26 pm

pbacot wrote:That's nice! I've had a CAD program for decades that has never added this simple feature. Often we go to schedules with a symbol or more detailed info on the plan but during design this would be great so anyone (including yourself) can look at the drawing or model and know what size is drawn. As for handedness, I don't like to put it on the plans. I am convinced that people just don't agree what it means. I can quickly find a diagram online that shows it opposite from what you show. Great additions though! Thanks!

I know the lines dividing the different wall lines relate to framing or modeling in your case but traditionally there are no lines drawn at the wall intersections in plan.


The 2D mode is really designed as lightweight schematic of the model layout rather than a final floor plan for construction documents.

Walls are divided up by segments and hence they are represented as separate structures even in 2D. At some point I will probably provide a feature which will allow the user to generate a full on floor plan that will be setup for bringing all of the data into layout or some other CAD engine for final construction document creation.

When it comes to generating 2D documents I still go to AutoCAD even though Layout does exist and continues to get stronger. For that reason I think it may be useful to have an automated DXF export function builtin at some point, that cleans up the drawing nicely and gives the user exactly what they need to prepare the floor plan.

I haven't shown any interior walls yet in any of these examples, but the idea there is they will be shaded a different color than the exterior walls so that the user can quickly differentiate between the two in the 2D mode.

I agree the handedness is a bit of a pain in the butt, and you are correct that there seems to be varying definitions of which is the correct way of designating this. I may eliminate the handedness altogether, besides the graphic clearly shows the swing of the door.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby facer » Sat May 12, 2018 7:18 pm

Medeek,
In response to your statement:
I may eliminate the handedness altogether, besides the graphic clearly shows the swing of the door.

I can confirm that naming the handing or "handedness" over several years of door scheduling for architectural firms supports your view.

However :) when dealing with computer designed buildings
naming the handing allows for computer checking of the door hardware, building code requirements,
and building standards. This is applicable to medium to large scale buildings presently, but as
computers evolve on their merry exponential curve of application it could be applied to smaller projects in the near future. (3-6 years is my guess)

I suggest completing your first version of the software allowing for future updates when and if there is a demand for a handing function for the particular market that will be using SketchUp for documentation in the near future.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sun May 13, 2018 1:41 am

A preview of the Polyline Wall Creation Tool and Auto-Corner Configuration:

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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Sun May 13, 2018 8:00 am

Another test of the wall plugin combined with the foundation and truss plugin.



The wall plugin is now in better shape than the truss plugin since no manual edits are required and all the windows and doors are fully parametric.

However note that the interior walls and garage doors are still missing, more work yet to be done.





View model here:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/ ... ng-Test-19

After spending the last month on this new plugin I can see where the other two plugins have room for some serious improvement, I've really got my work cut out for me.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby pilou » Sun May 13, 2018 12:58 pm

A true house turnkey solution! :fro:
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby Bob James » Mon May 14, 2018 6:42 am

Getting REALLY anxious to give it a try. :fro:
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Mon May 14, 2018 7:42 am

My biggest concern right now is that it is stable and runs rock solid. I have a fair bit more testing and I'm sure debugging and optimization ahead of me in the next few days.

wall_move_preview1.gif


The wall move tool is working quite well, I just need to make sure the corners stay "glued" now. Click on image to view GIF animation.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue May 15, 2018 6:21 am

wall_move_preview2.gif


Progress has been made but I'm still working out a few kinks.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby Frederik » Tue May 15, 2018 1:02 pm

It looks very promising...! :thumb:
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue May 15, 2018 7:12 pm

Frederik wrote:It looks very promising...! :thumb:


Thank-you for the vote of confidence. I'm sure the initial release will have its list of limitations and bugs but it certainly is a start in the right direction. Just remember it is just me programming this thing, I don't have a whole team of professional programmers working behind the scenes, creating the magic.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue May 15, 2018 7:13 pm

One of many wall move permutations that must be considered:



I also still need to fully vett the non-orthogonal wall possibilities, this is exhausting work.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Tue May 15, 2018 7:40 pm

Orthogonal walls are now pretty solid, onto non-orthogonals.

As I'm testing this feature out it occurred to me that it might be useful to have the ability to move just one corner of a wall, this would allow for the changing of angles between walls. I have added this feature to the "todo" list for future consideration.

Along with the split wall function it would also be useful to have a fuse or join wall function, where two wall panel that are inline with each other and butting up can be joined into a single wall panel.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby Frederik » Tue May 15, 2018 9:19 pm

medeek wrote:Just remember it is just me programming this thing, I don't have a whole team of professional programmers working behind the scenes, creating the magic.

Yes, I'm fully aware which makes this even more impressive... :thumb:
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Wed May 16, 2018 5:08 am

A preview of the Wall Move Tool:



View Model here:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/ ... ng-Test-21

The primary items left to do before the release are:

- Interior Walls
- Global Settings (update)
- Web Page (update)

I will start on interior walls tomorrow.

I also have some additional testing to do with the no framing option to make sure it is working seamlessly with the other modes (2D and 3D).

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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby Bob James » Wed May 16, 2018 8:36 am

Nathaniel,

Looking Good!

Will the door tool handle double doors (i.e. a house entry composed of two separate doors.)?

And closet sliding doors?
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Wed May 16, 2018 3:55 pm

Bob James wrote:Nathaniel,

Looking Good!

Will the door tool handle double doors (i.e. a house entry composed of two separate doors.)?

And closet sliding doors?


Right now the door types are limited but yes I plan on adding all the various door types:

- sliding
- pocket
- bifold
etc...

In that regard I am also very interested in working with other plugin authors to somehow integrate other door and window plugins so that they can work seamlessly with the wall plugin. In order for this to work correctly I will need to setup a simple system that sends a signal to the third party window/door plugin letting it know if the opening size or location has changed that way the windows and doors will stay synchronized with the wall model and automatically move with it.
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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby medeek » Wed May 16, 2018 6:13 pm

As I'm working on interior walls today it occurred to me that just as I've provided for a trim option with exterior walls I also need to provide an interior trim option for both interior (int-int) walls and exterior walls (int-ext).

I've added in one extra option in the advanced wall options to toggle interior trim. I will probably not full flesh this out until after the plugin release but interior trim will probably deal with the following key elements/options:

- Baseboard
- Crown Molding
- Chair Rail
- Wainscot

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Re: Medeek Wall Plugin

Postby juju » Wed May 16, 2018 6:35 pm

Nathaniel, I don't know if you should be putting those finishing trims in the plugin. So many variables and options, probably better if those were left to the designer to dictate / complete as per their design wishes?
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