[RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

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[RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:25 pm

Alpha 0.0.12

Don't forget to restart Sketchup after install.

Changelog:
  • Added size-based collisions
  • Added more Library items
  • Fixed Library units
  • Partial support for high-dpi displays

Please delete completly the old library in C:\ProgramData\Skatter before installing the new version.

If needed, same serial as before : 6sblp-7GdCN-Z1Y3X-E0O4a
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby Pixero » Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:08 pm

Installation went fine but when rendering a preset they are all black.
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:19 pm

Right... I messed up with texture paths. I'll reupload ASAP
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:43 pm

Done, please re-download, it should be fixed.
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby Pixero » Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:55 pm

Can I reinstall on top of the first version or should I remove something first?
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:58 pm

You can reinstall on top.
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby NigeC » Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:15 pm

the install went smoothly :thumb:
No problems at all so far
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby JQL » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:05 pm

I'm getting a 504 error at the link. And when I try rigthclick and download it says it isn't possible to transfer skatter_0_0_12_setup_exe
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:19 pm

Hmm, not sure what to do. Try again?
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby JQL » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:04 pm

Retried several times, it's the first time I see something like this...

skatter site..png
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby Pixero » Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:39 am

Got the same 504 error. :?
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:01 am

I emptied the cache, can you guys retry?
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby Pixero » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:44 am

Nope. I can reach the level above though... ;)
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:46 am

Which countries are you guys in?
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:00 am

How about now?
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby andybot » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:35 am

just tried it. DL works fine for me. :thumb:
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby JQL » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:39 am

Still the same for me... I'm in Portugal...
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby NigeC » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:16 pm

its ok in the uk with IE11
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby Pixero » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:19 pm

Download worked now. Im in Sweden.
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:36 pm

I contacted my hosting provider.

In the meantime, I added a zip file to the first post.
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby JQL » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:58 pm

I still can't access through your provider. Downloading zip... Thanks!
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby caecarvalho » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:06 pm

Download fine for me. I'm in Brazil.
(Actually not so fine, when I tryied to install I realised that the download was not complete so the file was corrupted. So I tryied to download a few more times but could never get more than 15mb...After that the download finishes. The tranference rate is very low too, about 10 KBpS.)
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby JQL » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:40 pm

Jiminy it's much more readable in 4K now and the warning sign doesn't overlap on the library icons. Thank you and thanks for the extra models.

I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I'm shooting a lot of questions for you to consider:

Are you thinking on ways for us to create libraries or is that something that will be part of your business model?

Your libraries are very good and I bet they take time to create (I know mine did...). It's obvious you're a very talented artist as well as a very talented coder, will you have time for everything?

Most of us have our own libraries but new users might have none, so having quality sample libraries is very good and you can't have enough quality models but, as you can't ever have enough, who's going to deliver it?

Will it cost us?

Power users might want to have custom libraries so they have their own unique assets but most users would probably like to share or being granted access to shared libraries... How would this work? Through your site? 3rd party? Sketchucation? 3dwarehouse, no particular center for sharing?

Sharing libraries only works when an active community is behind a software, will you create it?

Some people might want to sell libraries and Pixero, for instance would be my first bet (you guys should talk). Would you want people to sell assets through your site? Would you allow people to freely distribute them in any form?

I see a lot of options ahead, some of wich would boost Skatter sales, some of them would boost asset sales, all of them could turn your business into a successful model or ruin it. It all has to do with how you balance things... I couldn't sleep very well until I had this settled and I bet all of this crossed your mind already.

I'll share my thoughts:

I'd like to be able to create my own libraries, If I'd be a very regular user I might buy some libraries but I'm not that kind of user, I'd really like seeing absolutely brilliant libraries that I would want to pay, but I'd also like seeing shareable libraries for us render amateurs...

PS: Don't forget about combos... that one click solution would be nice to have! :P
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby jiminy-billy-bob » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:00 pm

You will obviously be able to create your own libraries. You will be able to share them at no cost, or sell them however you want without me taking any fee.
At some point, I'd like to have some kind of a "Skatter Warehouse", hosted on my website, accessible from within Sketchup, where people can upload and share their own libraries. If possible, I'd love to allow people to sell their creations from there, but I have no idea how that would be possible from a legal POV.

BTW, if you guys are interested in creating libraries that I would ship with Skatter, please get in touch with me. For now I have no money at all to give you, but you'll obviously get a bunch of free licenses if you want them, and if the plugin sells well, I'll pay you later. (And you will of course be credited)

JQL wrote:Jiminy it's much more readable in 4K now

Still need to fix the icons, though!

JQL wrote:PS: Don't forget about combos... that one click solution would be nice to have! :P

Yeah I know, I'll do it eventually, but that's tricky!
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby JQL » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:30 pm

I love the way you think and I hope you will be rewarded. I'll try to create some skatters for you... I have some ideas for when you give us vertical skatter surfaces but I will try figuring up something that is worthwhile and I can model...
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby JQL » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:33 pm

As I was thinking on this... The combo could also use a Sketchup Material to paint the surface it's applied to.

Imagine painting the ground with earth texture Thea/Vray ready and skattering grass all over it...

Painting ground with peebles mat, and skatter some peeble geometry too...

I know I know... I'm not helping making things simple!
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby NigeC » Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:28 pm

jiminy-billy-bob wrote:BTW, if you guys are interested in creating libraries that I would ship with Skatter, please get in touch with me. For now I have no money at all to give you, but you'll obviously get a bunch of free licenses if you want them, and if the plugin sells well, I'll pay you later. (And you will of course be credited)


Who has money?! I know what its like to be a starving developer :?
I might be able to make something to help create libraries.. although I don't have Vray
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby valerostudio » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:15 pm

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!! Wow, she is a mighty fine plugin now! Thea tests are insanely fast with Presto and VRay tests look great as well. Gorgeous grass in Sketchup now??? This is crazy beautiful!!!
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Re: [RELEASE] Alpha 0.0.12

Postby valerostudio » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:26 pm

Just purchased Pixero's Grass2 models to play with!
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