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implications of end of google earth

Postby glenn » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:40 pm

Hello,
What will happen with geo-locate when google earth is discontinued next year?
Will the stand alone google earth program (outside of maps) still function?
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby david_h » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:53 pm

it's the end of the world as we know it. REM
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby Dave R » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:55 pm

As for getting locations in SketchUp, that has been done via Google Maps, not Google Earth at least since SU2013. Or was it SU8? Is Google Maps going away, too?
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby glenn » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:34 pm

"...end of the World...." that's what I was afraid of!! time to step up collecting fees from my clients.
Dave R. thanks for the info, huge relief!!! I think some of google earth is being rolled into maps, depending on what version & platform is being used. Looks like maps (or future variant) is their $$$ making machine, so it's safe for now.
Google Sets End Date for Google Earth API
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby panixia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:13 pm

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby hellnbak » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:00 am

Google Earth is ending?? I searched for info on this but couldn't find anything.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby andybot » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:51 pm

It sounds like it's only the browser plugin, not the program itself.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby panixia » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:14 pm

it'sound like it's not the plugin but the google API and as far as i know is the very same needed for the "add location" to work :?
maybe thomthom or some other tech guru can explain us if this will affect sketchup or not :?:
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby pilou » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:32 pm

Even it's will true, you can't keep the last version ?
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby Tyler Miller » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:25 pm

Hey guys -

Nothing to fear here in regards to SketchUp's Add Location feature. SketchUp uses the Google Maps API, not the Google Earth API. Google Earth the application is not going away.

Google's announcement that they are ending the Google Earth browser plugin ("Google Earth API") is a natural consequence of tightening browser security models. Most modern browsers are dropping support for any form of plugins over the next couple years.

Fortunately, much of the functionality of the Google Earth plugin has now been incorporated into Google Maps using more modern browser capabilities like WebGL. This is the same technology we use to do 3D views of SketchUp models on the 3D Warehouse, and it does not require a browser plugin.

So, nothing to fear here and it is all a natural progression of technology.

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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby glenn » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:02 pm

Thanks Tyler. It would have been nice if Google clearly stated that in the article I referenced.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby panixia » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:53 pm

Tyler Miller wrote:So, nothing to fear here and it is all a natural progression of technology.

god bless you :ecstatic:
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby david_h » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:14 pm

panixia wrote:
Tyler Miller wrote:So, nothing to fear here and it is all a natural progression of technology.

god bless you :ecstatic:



I wasnt THAT worried.

It's the end of the Google Earth as we know it. . but I feel fine.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby hellnbak » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:55 pm

david_h wrote: I wasnt THAT worried.

It's the end of the Google Earth as we know it. . but I feel fine.


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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby Box » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:29 pm

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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby glenn » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:56 am

Tyler Miller wrote:Hey guys -

Nothing to fear here in regards to SketchUp's Add Location feature. SketchUp uses the Google Maps API, not the Google Earth API. Google Earth the application is not going away.

Google's announcement that they are ending the Google Earth browser plugin ("Google Earth API") is a natural consequence of tightening browser security models. Most modern browsers are dropping support for any form of plugins over the next couple years.

Fortunately, much of the functionality of the Google Earth plugin has now been incorporated into Google Maps using more modern browser capabilities like WebGL. This is the same technology we use to do 3D views of SketchUp models on the 3D Warehouse, and it does not require a browser plugin.

So, nothing to fear here and it is all a natural progression of technology.

Thanks,
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Seems that we should have been worried. You guys knew about a 5year grace period, but didn't mention that to the users until 2 months before the change.
Upcoming Change to Add Location
https://forums.sketchup.com/t/upcoming- ... tion/40953
Tyler thanks for the misdirection,
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby Dave R » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:49 am

Glenn, the discontinuation of a variety of Google-related links to SketchUp was announced when Google sold Trimble. It's Google that has decided to turn off the access. It wasn't Trimble deciding to discontinue it.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby andybot » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:36 pm

D'oh!! No aerial map will be available? Anyone know of other options that we can use after this cutoff?
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby slbaumgartner » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:43 am

Trimble is already working with other sources to provide terrain and overhead images when the Google API is discontinued. Time will tell how the coverage and quality compare with Google Earth.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby sketch3d.de » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:02 pm

according to the FAQ it will be OSM for the maps and DigitalGlobe for the satellite imagery and terrain data from Trimbles own sources.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby andybot » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:50 pm

sketch3d.de wrote:according to the FAQ it will be OSM for the maps and DigitalGlobe for the satellite imagery and terrain data.


Thanks! I saw the part about OSM, but it seemed they didn't have anything available for aerials. Glad to see it's in the pipeline. I will be interested to see the quality.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby panixia » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:28 am

glenn wrote:Tyler thanks for the misdirection

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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby bmike » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:27 pm

I use a relatively cheap (and easy to use) app for hiking / adventure / bike routing - is uses various servers for aerial images, as well as topo maps, etc... as far as I know access to many of these is free or relatively cheap. I know there are pros that use this for trail mapping, etc.

http://topofusion.com

Can SketchUp integrate with the maps / topo in a similar way?
Here are all the map sets / imagery that is available in TF:

http://topofusion.com/features.php#imagery
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby pbacot » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:37 pm

What's really good for quick studies is the geo located aerial imagery. That way one can quickly locate new work relative to existing features, good enough for initial planning and presentation. The actual "terrain" model (that I've seen) is only so useful at the site scale. Topo maps might be better, lacking a survey.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby bmike » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:35 pm

pbacot wrote:What's really good for quick studies is the geo located aerial imagery. That way one can quickly locate new work relative to existing features, good enough for initial planning and presentation. The actual "terrain" model (that I've seen) is only so useful at the site scale. Topo maps might be better, lacking a survey.


Agreed that the usefulness of the imported 3d data isn't always as useful, but its usually close enough for early stage work, until a survey is done or can be found / imported / created.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby sketch3d.de » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:43 am

jody - SketchUp Team Member wrote:Update 4/4/2017: The new data layers are now available in SU 2017. This means that Pro users will see two new layers in add location: "DigitalGlobe Satellite" and "Trimble Map". Make users will now see a "Trimble Map" layer. Google Satellite will remain as the default layer for a few more weeks.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby glenn » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:48 pm

digitalglobe imagery is terrible compared to google satellite.
Image is blurry, typically older.
But at least Trimble didn't wait until the last minute to address this issue.
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby pbacot » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:08 pm

sketch3d.de wrote:
jody - SketchUp Team Member wrote:Update 4/4/2017: The new data layers are now available in SU 2017. This means that Pro users will see two new layers in add location: "DigitalGlobe Satellite" and "Trimble Map". Make users will now see a "Trimble Map" layer. Google Satellite will remain as the default layer for a few more weeks.


And if we stick to 2016 we'll still have the same functionality as before? (I haven't seen a change)
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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby sketch3d.de » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:29 pm

pbacot wrote:And if we stick to 2016 we'll still have the same functionality as before?

SketchUp Help Center : FAQ for Add Location changes in SketchUp wrote:SketchUp 2016 (Pro or Make) and older versions of SketchUp
At this time, there is no feasible way to update these versions of SketchUp to use the new geodata service. The Add Location and Photo Textures features will no longer function.

pbacot wrote:(I haven't seen a change)

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Re: implications of end of google earth

Postby pbacot » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:03 pm

Understandable. Still I find that statement to be disingenuous (corporate). They don't WANT to update anything. You paid for it but it will no longer work.
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