I Use AdBlock For a Reason

I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby john.warburton » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:54 am

Guys, it is NOT cool that you have blocked those of us who choose to use Adblock from viewing content in posts.
0
Life's a reach, and then you gybe.

john.warburton 
Premium Member
Premium Member
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Aerilius » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:44 pm

( :idea: Adblock is cool, it allows to unblock sites.)
0

Aerilius 
PluginStore Author
PluginStore Author
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby TIG » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:35 pm

I also use AdBlock.
My default is 'on' to block ads on all sites.
However, it is very easily switched 'off' for selected sites [a one off click].
You must be aware that many 'community' sites, like SCF, rely on modest advertising revenue to pay for essentials. The servers, support etc are not free. Advertisers will not continue to invest if they think that their ads are not arriving at their target audience...
You get free use of sites like SCF - taking knowledge, advice, plugins etc - all you have to do in return is turn AdBlock 'off' [just once]. After all the SCF ads are all tailored to Sketchup users - CAD/Addons/Rendering/3dPrinting etc, so from time to time you might even find one of them to be useful to you and follow its link, to learn something else to your advantage...
0
TIG
User avatar
TIG 
Global Moderator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Alan Fraser » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:06 pm

Disabling AdBlock for SCF may not be enough. I also have the Ghostery plugin for Firefox (it allows control of tracking cookies) I found that had to be disabled too. There may be others as well.
0
FormFonts
Were you required to walk 500 miles? Were you advised to walk 500 more?
You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!
User avatar
Alan Fraser 
Top SketchUcator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Mike Lucey » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:42 pm

john.warburton wrote:Guys, it is NOT cool that you have blocked those of us who choose to use Adblock from viewing content in posts.


Hi John,

TIG has outlined very well the reasons we have implemented the Anti AdBlock measures so I won't elaborate. However when one thinks about it, we have not 'blocked' anyone, its through the use of AdBlock that folks are 'blocking' themselves.

Mike
0
User avatar
Mike Lucey 
Mayor
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby solo » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:50 pm

If you are using Chrome and disable AdBlock and still have a problem you might need to check your 'do not track' plugin http://download.cnet.com/DoNotTrackMe-f ... 53397.html also, I had to disable it to see content.
0
http://www.solos-art.com

I'm better with polys than words
User avatar
solo 
Global Moderator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby john.warburton » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:20 pm

Mike Lucey wrote:
john.warburton wrote:Guys, it is NOT cool that you have blocked those of us who choose to use Adblock from viewing content in posts.


Hi John,

TIG has outlined very well the reasons we have implemented the Anti AdBlock measures so I won't elaborate. However when one thinks about it, we have not 'blocked' anyone, its through the use of AdBlock that folks are 'blocking' themselves.

Mike


That's the kind of cringe-worthy reasoning that we expect from a politician, Mike. It is not worthy of you - I know that you can do better.

I was never in any doubt why you had done this, and I'm well aware that I can alter AdBlock's settings to just allow adverts here, but I think that it should be the user's choice to opt in to receiving the adverts or not.
0
Life's a reach, and then you gybe.

john.warburton 
Premium Member
Premium Member
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Mike Lucey » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:58 pm

john.warburton wrote:
That's the kind of cringe-worthy reasoning that we expect from a politician, Mike. It is not worthy of you - I know that you can do better.

I was never in any doubt why you had done this, and I'm well aware that I can alter AdBlock's settings to just allow adverts here, but I think that it should be the user's choice to opt in to receiving the adverts or not.


John, I always enjoy mixing words with you .... you don't spare me! :)

'Choices' normally cost! The whole thing is a simple matter of economics ..... errrr ...... starting to sound like a politician again :puke: However that is part of my roll here and has been for some time.

We operate SketchUcation 24/7/365 and cater for over 155K+ membership. In terms of man hours, while we have never calculated the weekly input from the management and moderators also the top sketchucators, I imagine it runs into many hundreds of hours per week.

On top of this we have increased services to Standard Members and now Premium Members and continue to do so week in, week out. For example our new Lenovo Affinity Deal which will offer good discounts to our Premium Members.

Our prime source of operating revenue has and continues to be advert revenue although Premium Membership sign-ups of late are also helping to keep the show on the road ...... I would like to take this opportunity to sincerely thank those that have supported us by taking up Premium Membership.

AdBlock has been seriously effecting the banner advertising impact. While banner 'impressions' have been increasing, in many cases (over 50% from my research / calculation) these are just ghost impressions as Ad Block is being used, so no benefit to our support advertisers and not fair to them either. Most of them are small operations.

We took the decision to create an 'anti' Ad Block system simply to offer better advertising services to our advertisers thus increasing their CTRs and in turn their opportunities to make product sales. We also trust this move will generate better value to our advertisers and in turn they will stick with us.

John, if you can come up with another realistic way for SketchUcation to operate at its current level that doesn't involve banner advertising, I am all ears :thumb:

Mike
0
User avatar
Mike Lucey 
Mayor
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby tomasz » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:14 pm

One-Line adverts distract me more then the banners. I hate reading a thread and tripping over a completely unrelated message.
Just installed AdBlock to see what it is all about. Those polite requests are too ...well.. saturated? :)
0

tomasz 
SU2TH & SU2KT Developer
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Mike Lucey » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:22 pm

Hi Tomaz, If you mean 'saturated' as in a lot of colour, maybe we could look into that.
0
User avatar
Mike Lucey 
Mayor
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby jeff hammond » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:26 pm

tomasz wrote:One-Line adverts distract me more then the banners. I hate reading a thread and tripping over a completely unrelated message.


weird_ i think i have adblock built into my eyes.. i never noticed that last post in a thread til now :shock: :lol:
0
dotdotdot
User avatar
jeff hammond 
Global Moderator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Rich O Brien » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:43 pm

Jeff Hammond wrote:
tomasz wrote:One-Line adverts distract me more then the banners. I hate reading a thread and tripping over a completely unrelated message.


weird_ i think i have adblock built into my eyes.. i never noticed that last post in a thread til now :shock: :lol:


Not everyone is as canny as you Jeff...

viewtopic.php?p=353027#p353027

:?
0
There's a frontroom and a backroom....reverse faces
User avatar
Rich O Brien 
Administrator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby jeff hammond » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:53 pm

it's there though.. when i look for it.
otherwise, I'm usually only looking for the reply button or the next page button..


Screen Shot 2013-01-11 at 11.50.32 AM.png


[edit] ok.. i get what happened in that thread you linked to ... the OP was replying to Ad Machine..
i'm a bit slow today..
0
dotdotdot
User avatar
jeff hammond 
Global Moderator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby pbacot » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:55 pm

I nay care but I wish SUcation would ban flashing ads. Also the site is quite slow now. Is that related to the ads?
0
MacOSX Mojave ShetchUp Pro v19 Twilight Pro v2 M2 Kerkythea PowerCADD
User avatar
pbacot 
Top SketchUcator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby pbacot » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:04 pm

What sort of tool would I use for vertices in SketchUp? I want to take control!

Is there some sort of discount?
0
MacOSX Mojave ShetchUp Pro v19 Twilight Pro v2 M2 Kerkythea PowerCADD
User avatar
pbacot 
Top SketchUcator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby jeff hammond » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:09 pm

peter.. maybe you have the Siri version of scf?
0
dotdotdot
User avatar
jeff hammond 
Global Moderator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Rich O Brien » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:09 pm

That's Thomthom's Vertex Tools and as a Premium member you get 20% off the price.

When you visit the shop anything you buy is automatically discounted or free.
0
There's a frontroom and a backroom....reverse faces
User avatar
Rich O Brien 
Administrator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby notareal » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:12 pm

This new anti adblock rule will greatly reduce my web experience, thanks to sketchucation... have to say I did not expect this happening.

I have no issues disabling ABP at sketchucation, but the problem is that ads are pushed from buysellads.com, that's scrips I want to stop running on other sites with NoScript.
I don't see a easy way (nor a time to bother circumvent anti-adblock) to allow buysellads.com scrips so that I could stop they scripts at other sites. I sincerely hope that you find a way to enable anti-adblock measures that do not affect my general web experience, until that I rather block buysellads.com and perhaps result a decreased experience - just make those anti-adblock messages not so annoying, there really no need for that.

Honestly, you could implement ads that are stored on site and not pushed from third party site. Also AdBlockPlus has acceptable ads policy http://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads
I guess, buysellads.com does not follow that... nor does sketchucation then.

Those that ask Thea or Kerkythea questions with images, please wist at they sites for help.
0
Welcome to try Thea Render, Thea support | kerkythea.net -team member

notareal 
Thea Render Support
Thea Render Support
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby jeff hammond » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:14 pm

Rich O Brien wrote:That's Thomthom's Vertex Tools and as a Premium member you get 20% off the price.

When you visit the shop anything you buy is automatically discounted or free.


while i do think advertising is getting smarter and more targeted etc.. it's not quite there yet..
Ad Machine should recognize i've already bought vertex tools therefore, he better be onehelluva salesbot to sell it to me again.
0
dotdotdot
User avatar
jeff hammond 
Global Moderator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Chris Fullmer » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:34 pm

Jeff Hammond wrote:he better be onehelluva salesbot to sell it to me again.


:roflmao:
0
Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
All my Plugins I've written
User avatar
Chris Fullmer 
SketchUp Team
SketchUp Team
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Mike Lucey » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:35 pm

pbacot wrote:I nay care but I wish SUcation would ban flashing ads. Also the site is quite slow now. Is that related to the ads?


I agree with you and will discuss this with the advertisers that are using them. I think there not many though! Also 'flashing' ads can annoy and result in a negative feeling towards the product / service. I have no problem to nicely made animated gifs that are 'relaxing'
0
User avatar
Mike Lucey 
Mayor
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Mike Lucey » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:37 pm

Jeff Hammond wrote: he better be onehelluva salesbot to sell it to me again.


Maybe he feels your memory is not all it should be :)
0
User avatar
Mike Lucey 
Mayor
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby jeff hammond » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:37 pm

notareal wrote:This new anti adblock rule will greatly reduce my web experience, thanks to sketchucation... have to say I did not expect this happening.....

Welcome to try Thea Render, Thea support | kerkythea.net -team member


hmmmm...

Screen Shot 2013-01-11 at 12.26.26 PM.png



[but hey... people start getting weird when money comes into play... ima bow out of this conversation..]
0
dotdotdot
User avatar
jeff hammond 
Global Moderator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby jeff hammond » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:41 pm

Mike Lucey wrote:
Jeff Hammond wrote: he better be onehelluva salesbot to sell it to me again.


Maybe he feels your memory is not all it should be :)


he's probably right. :lol:
i was having a new conversation here the other day only to later realize i already had the same conversation 2 yrs ago..
0
dotdotdot
User avatar
jeff hammond 
Global Moderator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby notareal » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:56 pm

Jeff Hammond wrote:
notareal wrote:This new anti adblock rule will greatly reduce my web experience, thanks to sketchucation... have to say I did not expect this happening.....

Welcome to try Thea Render, Thea support | kerkythea.net -team member


hmmmm...

Screen Shot 2013-01-11 at 12.26.26 PM.png



[but hey... people start getting weird when money comes into play... ima bow out of this conversation..]


Like said, I have no issue with ads at sketchucation.com, but the way how anti-adblock is implemented is not nice as it effectively forces enabling buysellads.com scripts at all sites (when NoScript is used), not just at sketchucation.com. I am sure that there must be a way to allow some sketchucation.com to use third party scripts (even I do consider them dangerous).

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diag ... ellads.com
"What is the current listing status for buysellads.com?

This site is not currently listed as suspicious.

Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 1 time(s) over the past 90 days."

Don't know how reliable buysellads.com is, but even a hint of risk is often enough.
0
Welcome to try Thea Render, Thea support | kerkythea.net -team member

notareal 
Thea Render Support
Thea Render Support
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby jeff hammond » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:00 pm

notareal wrote:Like said, I have no issue with ads at sketchucation.com, but the way how anti-adblock is implemented is not nice as it effectively forces enabling buysellads.com scripts at all sites (when NoScript is used), ...


right.. i re-read your post and took it differently the second time around.. i apologize
0
dotdotdot
User avatar
jeff hammond 
Global Moderator
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Mike Lucey » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:05 pm

I think that advertising in general has a long way to go. While some TV ads are quite entertaining .... sometimes more so than the programs they are punctuating!

There is quite a lot of advertising over here for GoCompare.com, an insurance comparison site. The Welsh opera singer can be quite annoying at times but the latest advert has Prof Stephen Hawking's coming to the rescue .... its quite funny!
0
User avatar
Mike Lucey 
Mayor
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby tomasz » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:02 pm

Mike Lucey wrote:If you mean 'saturated' as in a lot of colour, maybe we could look into that.
Yes. They could be not that dominant. At the moment those look like virus warnings.
0

tomasz 
SU2TH & SU2KT Developer
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby jaceguay » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:31 pm

I don´t have any ad block installed, but get the message to disable add block? Could it be the firewall software used in my workplace? Also I can´t ask the IT to disable whatever software they have there, there is any option?
0

jaceguay 
Premium Member
Premium Member
 

Re: I Use AdBlock For a Reason

Postby Bob James » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:17 pm

I have "Allow some non-intrusive advertising" checked, but the ads are still blocked.

Equally interesting: I took a Snippet of the options form to include in this post and it displays as the banner instead of the snippet :shock: :?
0
i7-4930K 3.4Ghz, 2x GTX780 6GB, 32GB DDR3-1600 ECC, OCZ Vertex 4 500GB, WD Black 3TB, 32TB NAS, 4x 27" Monitors, SpaceMouse Pro, X-keys XK-60
User avatar
Bob James 
Premium Member
Premium Member
 

SketchUcation One-Liner Adverts

by Ad Machine » 5 minutes ago



Ad Machine 
Robot
 

Next


 

Return to Corner Bar

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: psylo and 1 guest

Visit our sponsors: