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Axes Widget?

Postby nickchun » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:31 pm

Hi,
Does anyone know of a plugin or a way to display the axes as a separate entity in the corner of the screen so that when you are zoomed in to a model you can always tell 'which way up' you are?
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby Gaieus » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:21 pm

I do not know about such a plugin but you can turn on crosshairs (Window > Preferences > Drawing > Miscellaneous) that will be an "extension" from the cursor along the axes.

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I personally find them annoying and distracting (and it can also tax your system/video card) but I can imagine that if someone gets used to them, they can be of some visual help orienting yourself.

My template has ground and sky and that helps me find my orientation quite well. In completely monochrome backgrounds, I also have issues. Like flying in thick fog.
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby nickchun » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:30 pm

Thanks Gaieus,
I will give it a try for a while. It doesn't seem to be slowing down my old machine as yet so might be an option. :thumb:
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby thomthom » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:57 am

Gaieus wrote:and it can also tax your system/video card

Really? But it's just three extra lines to draw... ?
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby Gaieus » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:30 am

thomthom wrote:Really? But it's just three extra lines to draw... ?

That's what I experienced with my older machine back 5 years ago. It had a video card that was just on the limit...
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby chrisjk » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:43 am

You could also set a shortcut key for View/Rendering/Edge/By Axis then you can toggle it on and off as needed.
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby nickchun » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:24 am

chrisjk wrote:You could also set a shortcut key for View/Rendering/Edge/By Axis then you can toggle it on and off as needed.

I don't have that option on my version( 8 free). Which version are you using?
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby thomthom » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:40 am

I don't have it either - Pro version. I think he refers to a plugin.
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby chrisjk » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:01 am

This is not a Plugin and it is available in the Free version of 8 for both Windows and Mac; I normally use a Mac but downloaded the Windows version to try it and it is basically identical.

Go to Window>Preferences>Shortcuts and then enter View for the filter criterion. Scroll down a bit to find the color by axis command. Set a shortcut and there you go.
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby TIG » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:07 am

Strangely it's not in the Pro version menu.
This is a display-mode set under a Style only...
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby chrisjk » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:19 am

This is from the Pro version for the Mac



and this fropm the Free version for the PC

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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby thomthom » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:20 am

How strange.

It's not a menu item. Nor is it a toolbar item. There is no toolbar named "Rendering", nor is there any toolbar that offer that feature.

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But I do see it in Preferences > Shortcuts

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It's odd, because I thought one could only assign shortcuts to menus and toolbar commands. If you want to assign a shortcut to a context menu item one need to ensure that you have a valid selection before it will be visible in the shortcut list.
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby TIG » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:38 am

I see it too !
There's no menu entries to match, but there are shortcut listings for various Rendering options - it IS plain weird...
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby chrisjk » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:47 am

I'm stunned I knew something you guys didn't! Do I get a medal? :D

I am sure I learnt about it somewhere here though. I owe all I know about SU to this forum..
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby TIG » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:51 am

Congratulations!
Want a job ;)
You see there's always something hiding inside Sketchup...
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby TIG » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:58 am

It came up almost 4 years ago viewtopic.php?p=56068#p56068
and surprised Jim that time !
Dave_R viewtopic.php?p=56131#p56131 had his finger on the pulse - they used to be in another similar [sub]menu items in v6... but looks like they were removed from the menus in v7/8, but Google left them in the shortcuts list !
No one told me :roll:
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby thomthom » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:00 pm

So now the question arises; why do we need to ensure something relevant is selected in order to assign a command that only exists in the context menu? If the list isn't entirely dynamic based on UI element....
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby Gaieus » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:03 pm

I do not use this function often enough to assign a shortcut (either because I would not remember due to the infrequency of use or because there are not too many shortcuts one would like to "waste" - or maybe solely because my memory is short?).

Anyway, I do have it in the shortcut list and also in Jim's custom toolbar plugin (maybe that's when Jim got surprised). I put it there however because sometimes it is indeed useful and then I do not have to dig into the styles settings.

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There are a couple of more buttons there that I like like display endpoints - also useful when you are hunting for them but otherwise do not have them on by default in your template. Also display profiles although I usually have profiles set to 1 px so that would not make much difference but I use it for trouble shooting models from the forums and displaying thicker profiles can be useful when searching for edges that do not merge.
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby TIG » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:06 pm

But the list is dynamic BUT Google wedge in these extra 'non-existent' items anyway - the oddity is that they list as if they are menu-items, but they are not - or if they are then those menu items are somehow 'hidden' from the users ? Which begs the question, why?
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby Gaieus » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:08 pm

Not to clutter your menu? :roll: :? :shock: :o (all relevant smileys)
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby TIG » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:11 pm

OK, but what other 'hidden' gems do we have to find ?
The secret-menu item for ray_trace_rendering... etc... :lol:
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby chrisjk » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:53 pm



Only on a Mac though... :D
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby nickchun » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:38 pm

TIG wrote:OK, but what other 'hidden' gems do we have to find ?

Holy cow! Just came back from work and caught up with the post. will have to have a look in the menus.
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby nickchun » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:32 pm

Thanks for your help guys, opted for the shortcut..'by axes' :thumb:
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby harnstein » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:05 pm

Two things to add..

First, did i get you guys right that you didn't know about the "axis by material" setting??
If your still searching for where it's to be found- it's in "Styles>Edit>Edges>(bottom)By Color/Axis/Material"

..probably i was just too "dooh" to get the point of this tread. :bounce:

Second, one good thing not to get lost in space is to draw one big rectangle, group it
and give the upper side a different color (if not already by default material.
This way you will know where you are ;)

Another benefit of doing that:
If you're drawing somewhere within space and you're pointing on a object you want to scroll to you may miss it.
Or you're pointing to some lines only (not faces) then it's hard to get where you want to.

Sometimes you don't get to the object or only slowly, sometimes you pass by the object way to quick.

(That's why i do it like this and it works pretty well.)

Btw, nice one, Chris. :D
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Re: Axes Widget?

Postby Wo3Dan » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:05 pm

The Axes tool interrups an operation. So assigning the shortcut sequence to a key allows you to see where blue is pointing at. [Ecs] ends the interruption.
I must admit, not as useful as
toggling 'Color: by axis <> all the same'.

I've always wondered why toggling endpoint's visibility on/off isn't available in the 'View' menu, nor in the shortcut list discussed here.
Unlike profiles, depth cue and extentions. It's just missing!
We always have to dig into Window > Styles > Edit > Edge settings to reach it. Or have it saved in a scene. Toggling by pressing one key would help.
(mentioning this at the risk of now being "sentenced" to contribute to the 'Dooh' thread) :roll:
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