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Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Postby dallen » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:14 pm

I need assistance with creating a Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component that uses start pieces, shingles, jumper pieces and stop pieces for row to row connection as well being offset like regular shingles on a roof. The Grid Example the Dynamic Component Training is similar but it only has the one tile to replicate. Can anyone assist me with this? Thank you in advance.
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Re: Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Postby Gaieus » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:42 pm

Hi Darren,

We have a special "Dynamic component" subforum here (under the main SU forum). I am moving your topic there for (hopefully) better attention (this is the most I can do with DC's but at least someone is doing it).
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Re: Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Postby dallen » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:47 pm

Thank you!
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Re: Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Postby dallen » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:54 pm

Gaieus wrote:Hi Darren,

We have a special "Dynamic component" subforum here (under the main SU forum). I am moving your topic there for (hopefully) better attention (this is the most I can do with DC's but at least someone is doing it).



Where is the 'main SU forum'? Did you mean the subforum "Dynamic components" under the main SU Discussions? Please direct, thanks.
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Re: Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Postby Gaieus » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:56 pm

Yes, that's it. In fact, you are there now already (as I moved the topic).

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Re: Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Postby dallen » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:09 pm

Thank you. I have posted two topics that are the same. Not aware of the approval time. You may delete which ever one that makes the least amount of sense. Thanks again.
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Re: Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Postby jaxcoffee » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:56 pm

You might want to look into the instant roof plugin on this forum. It's a great tool of roofing.
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Re: Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Postby Jeff Hammond » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:35 pm

I think it might help if you attach a .skp which has all the individual components in there and shows their arrangement when assembled.
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Re: Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Postby dallen » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:42 pm

Jeff Hammond wrote:I think it might help if you attach a .skp which has all the individual components in there and shows their arrangement when assembled.



I have loaded a file as Requested. The additional shapes are typical and non typical roof shapes that the shingle block would fit into. The thing here is that the shingles will not necessarily need to fit into all of the corners like a material but will have to be able to not only fill a square or rectangle but also smart enough to fill the odd shapes as well. It has to be a complete unit to the nearest whole number of shingles. If there is only one row, then there will not be any jumpers. If there is only two rows then there would only be one jumper. The shingles and jumpers are the only pieces that will multiply. The Start (bottom right) and end (top left) pieces will remain as is at the start and end. This block has to be able to be installed reversed/mirrored as well.
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Re: Multiple Element Roofing Shingle Dynamic Component

Postby Jeff Hammond » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:29 pm

hmm.

i don't think you're going to be able to accomplish this with dynamic components..

i'm not quite sure how the jumpers are supposed to look when filling the awkward shaped roofs but i assume they will be cut on angles.(?)
basically, if you can't use standard sketchup's Scale,Move, & Rotate ( :scale: , :move:, :rotate:) tools to modify the components then you can't do it with DCs..

(there are workarounds such as shown in this stair building dc of mine.. i made the video to show the suTeam some requests of mine but you'll probably be able to see the limitations you're up against here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QYs1lcrAck )

so, try taking one of your jumper components and using only the tools i mentioned earlier, conform it to your desired shape.. is it possible?

also, with DCs, you can't just click on one of the odd surfaces then have the components populate the area automagically.. you'd have to enter all the parameters manually via a component dialog which would be easy enough to do with the rectangle shape but once you get into the varying angles/cuts/etc, you're going to hit a dead end..

this would be more suited to ruby and there are people on these forums that could (probably) make a plugin for you but, it's so specialized of a plugin that i don't think they're just going to make it and publish here as nobody but you needs it.. it seems like a situation for contracting one of the writers to build the plugin specifically suited to your needs.. if this is for your business, i'd say it's a route you may want to explore as it's going to save you tons of time over drawing these things manually per each roof.. i don't know how much they'd charge to do something like this but if it were me, i'd be expecting something in the $100-$500 range(?)
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