[Plugin] HoverSelect - v1.1d - 26 Nov 09

[Chris Fullmer]

Have you downloaded it and used it Thom? Its an awesome UI!

I think that it is is done with the view.draw type methods. All the draw, draw2d, draw_points, draw_polyline, draw_text. That is my guess.

Chris

[Fredo6]

Have you downloaded it and used it Thom? Its an awesome UI!

I think that it is is done with the view.draw type methods. All the draw, draw2d, draw_points, draw_polyline, draw_text. That is my guess.

Chris

Yes, this is actually pure drawing routines in the view. Which is somehow also an issue to capture events when you cascade tools.
So far, this is experimental, but I'll work on it to retrofit in other plugins.

Fredo

[thomthom]

I thought you could only draw lines and text. Not filled shapes. I need to look at the API again.

[massimo]

Hi Fredo, i've not tried this plugin yet and maybe it works for my request. But it's possible to add a filter "by distance" to the selection via rectangle? I try to explain: actually when you select by a rectangle you select all edges and faces in the window even if they are very far and that is quite annoying. I have in mind an option with an input for maximum distance selection like, for example, "select all edges and faces in the window as far as 100 cm". Something like "Max Wall Thickness" in Windowizer 4 plugin.
Thank you and sorry if that is a nonsense...
Massimo.

[Fredo6]

Massimo,

This make perfect sense.
And after all, the tool is there to comply with requests from users.

I'll do something in a next version.

Thanks for the idea.

Fredo

[mitcorb]

Fredo:
This would be the variable falloff "brush" available in some other modelers.
Sure would be nice to have this capability.

[pichuneke]

Working on the spanish translation (very busy these days...)

[EarthMover]

I've grown to use this plugin as much or more than any other. I've actually added it as the shortcut Shift + Spacebar and I'll use in place of the standard selection tool.

It is perfect except for one or two things.

Fredo,

In the next version can you change the way that hitting shift will toggle the "select all connected lines" on? Can it be set that when you let go of shift, the command goes back to standard selection mode? I often have to move and pan around the scene while selecting lines and anytime I pan using shift, it turns on the select all connected lines and I have to turn it back off to keep hover selecting the additional lines. A minor headache, but one nonetheless.

Also the select all connected lines is very inconsistent for me. A lot of times it will register that there are connected lines and the arrow will change color and the plus sign will appear, but it will not select anything at all. Then I go to a parallel set of lines that form the same structure and it has no problem. It is an issue with intersecting hidden or softened lines touch the line I want to select continuously?

Thanks again Fredo for all your great time saving tools!!!!

[thomthom]

How do you actually draw filled shapes to the viewport?

[Fredo6]

In the next version can you change the way that hitting shift will toggle the "select all connected lines" on? Can it be set that when you let go of shift, the command goes back to standard selection mode? I often have to move and pan around the scene while selecting lines and anytime I pan using shift, it turns on the select all connected lines and I have to turn it back off to keep hover selecting the additional lines. A minor headache, but one nonetheless.

Actually Shift and Ctrl work in 2 modes:
1) Toggle: quick press and release
2) Keep down while selecting. Normally, when you release the key, it goes back to normal mode. Maybe this does not work very well?
So far I have not found other ways for the modifiers (function keys do not work well on Mac and most other keys are taken by short cuts). This is why I added the button palette.

Also the select all connected lines is very inconsistent for me. A lot of times it will register that there are connected lines and the arrow will change color and the plus sign will appear, but it will not select anything at all. Then I go to a parallel set of lines that form the same structure and it has no problem. It is an issue with intersecting hidden or softened lines touch the line I want to select continuously?

There are bugs in this version and it may well be related to the soft / hideen lines, depending on how you configured the filter. I encapsulated a different implementation in LibFredo6 which I will retrofit in HoverSelect for a new release. You can see it for instance in RoundCorner 2.1.

Fredo

[Fredo6]

How do you actually draw filled shapes to the viewport?

just use view.draw or view.draw2d with GL_POLYGON, GL_QUADS codes.

Note that there is a bug in SU API for the 3D drawing (i.e. view.draw), which does not take into account the color set by view.drawing_color and always draws in black. I have signaled it to the SU team.

Fredo

[thomthom]

Ah, I was struggling with that. And drawing a polygon over a face causes z-fighting. :/ Which there was a nice way to highlight faces...

[wind-borne]

Just joined recently to enter the wild, wacky world of ruby. Ran across this thread and realized this might be something i would use regularly, but only a couple of the functions work, no hovering, rectangle or lasso selecting. Clicking an edge, very difficult; clicking a face does select edges easily.

Your other tools I downloaded work fantastic.
Thanks in advance if you can steer me in right direction.

[Fredo6]

The script is now translated to Chinese, thanks to the effort of the CLT Team at SketchupBar.
see main post at http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=18916&hilit=plugin#p155058

[unclex]

Where put the LANG?

[mitcorb]

From what I can tell, this is a tool for edge selection only.
I could sure use a Hoverselect Only Faces as a way to select faces exposed to the camera. Otherwise, you box select every thing in the box from here to the horizon, then you have to unselect the stuff on the other side of the mesh that you discover after orbiting the model.
One good use for a Hoverselect face tool is to then apply Joint Push Pull to those selected faces.

[mitcorb]

So... this is not a good idea?

[Fredo6]

So... this is not a good idea?

It is...

I may end up doing it in my redesign of HoverSelect

Fredo

[blakelywallace]

Hey Fredo,

Any news on the addition of a lasso selection tool? Would be super handy...

Many thanks for all your hard work

[hebeijianke]

Hi
When I use this tool "Selection by rectangle:"
If I select a line that is hiden
It does not work

[Fredo6]

Hi
When I use this tool "Selection by rectangle:"
If I select a line that is hiden
It does not work

By default, the rectangle selection selects only on visible edges (like the Eraser tool).
To include all edges, you have to use the Shift modifier (pressed or in toggle mode). The green rectangle border gets thicker and the hidden edges are highlighted.

Fredo

[hebeijianke]

Thanks
I see

[dereeei]

Script doesn't work for me, I mean it doesn't select anything. I have the menu, i can "use" the selection tool, but it doesn't select any edge. Compatibility issue with SU8 maybe?

[Oxer]

Hi Fredo and thanks for the plugin!
I have translated the plugin to Spanish language this is the file:

HoverSelect_11d-ES.zip

[amuyobo]

Just started using Sketchup - this plugin is an absolute must! Thank You!

[Carrozza]

I have pretty much the same problems as Dereeei (see above): when I activate the plugin and click-hover on edges nothing get selected.
What's worst, in rare occasions it works, it seems mostly after having performed a rectangle select action.
What works flawlessly is the click-on-face selection, but that's the less useful feature because for what I understand it pretty much replicate the native double-click Sketchup funcionality.
Could someone please help me make this great plugin work?
Cheers!

[Fredo6]

I have pretty much the same problems as Dereeei (see above): when I activate the plugin and click-hover on edges nothing get selected.

Just in case, did you check the edge property filter? By default, HoverSelect does not select Smooth edges (even if they appear as plain edges). But you can change the filter.

Fredo

[Carrozza]

I thing filters are correct (all four button pressed); I can say it because when I disable some type of edges there's a forbid sign near the cursor while overing excluded edge types.
I made tests in a few different situations and models, but no luck so far.

In case it matters here are all the plugins installed:
Chris's Shape Bender.
Didier's Projections.
Diggory's Recurve.
Fredo's Bezier Spline, Curviloft, Hover Select, Scale, Joint PushPull, Round Corner, Tools on surface.
ThomThom's Cleanup.

I have Sketchup 8 running on Windows 7 64 bit, graphics card is Nvidia GeForce GT 525M (mobile).

Thanks for your great plugins and your help.

[Carrozza]

Fredo, is there hope you'll look into this issue?
Unfortunately selecting only edges without faces is a real pain in Sketchup...

[Fredo6]

Fredo, is there hope you'll look into this issue?
Unfortunately selecting only edges without faces is a real pain in Sketchup...

I'll see what I can do quickly and come back

Fredo