[Plugin] Selection Toys

Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby ale one » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:52 pm

Very good script thomthom.
Only i want to say what will be fantastic to add more functions to the loop selection tool,for the edges and faces. (i know it has been commented previously)
thank you very much for your script.
sorry for my bad inglish ;D
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby rami_lpm » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:15 pm

you'll be getting a lot of cookies for this one.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby CadFather » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:20 pm

Hi Thom, a late Thanks for this..

is there a chance of having the context menu items available as toolbar choices?

i can help with the icons if you need

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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby thomthom » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:35 pm

The items for Group Copies and Instances?
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby CadFather » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:49 pm

yes, comps and groups is a first choice. of course i shortcut them, which works fine, but there are lots of others:
especially in the select submenu.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby thomthom » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:58 pm

I'll make note of that for the next version.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby CadFather » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:07 pm

Thanks Thom, and if i can help with anything let me know.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby thomthom » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:08 pm

Cheers. I'll let you know if I do. Currently I'm working on a new feature. Will do the toolbar once that's done along with some improvement to the tool's descriptions.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby e-anima » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:01 pm

i do not know how to do the following. i have a cylinder and it is seperated in the middle by a loop of edges around. its like cut in the middle. how can i only select thes edges. its an edge ring. thank you
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby free agent » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:55 am

Hi Thom

im getting this error on opening sketchup

Error Loading File tt_selection_toys.rb
No such file to load -- TT_Plugin_Manager/tt_plugin_manager.rb
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby thomthom » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:33 am

Free Agent wrote:Hi Thom

im getting this error on opening sketchup

Error Loading File tt_selection_toys.rb
No such file to load -- TT_Plugin_Manager/tt_plugin_manager.rb

Did you download the required Plugin Manager package as well?
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby free agent » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:17 pm

so ur saying read the instruction before posting random complaints?.... :roll:
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby thomthom » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:52 pm

Me? I'd never! :D
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.0.0) — 03 November 2009

Postby thomthom » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:53 pm

I know it's a bit annoying to install additional files - but there was so much work put into the UI Manager that I wanted to be able to reuse it.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby thomthom » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:04 pm

  • Fixed bug in select_same_direction_faces, select_parallel_faces, select_perpendicular_faces, select_same_area.
  • Fixed bug in Select Only / Deselect Soft / Smooth Edges
  • Added Command Cheat Sheet.
  • Moved from Plugin_Manager to TT_Lib
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:47 pm

Nice update, thanks Thom :thumb:
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby pghstone83 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:17 pm

I downloaded the tt lib along with the selection tools file both that were both posted on the forum pgs. However, I am not able to get the selection tools toolbar in order to select the "loop" selection on the design program.

Can you please help guide me as to how to make that happen?
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby thomthom » Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:22 pm

pghstone83 wrote:However, I am not able to get the selection tools toolbar

You must Enable it first - Tools -> Selection Toys - Enable Toolbar

pghstone83 wrote:select the "loop" selection on the design program.

All commands are also available from the toolbar.
Not sure which Loop method you refer to, but you got:
Tools -> Selection Toys - Select Edge Loop

and then you got the

Right-Click on Edge -> Select - Quad-face Loop
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby pghstone83 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:03 pm

My Tools button in the program does not have a "selection toys" button as an option to select in order to enable it.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby thomthom » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:29 pm

No Selection Toys under the Tools menu? that's very odd...
how/where did you install the files?
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby EarthMover » Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:23 pm

ThomThom,

Is it possible to add an option to Select only "Outer Edges" and Deselect "Outer Edges"? Chris Fulmer wrote the code and mentioned in his post it may be better suited for your plugin.

Do you think a "Select Connected by Orientation" for edges would be possible? Basically I'm asking for a loop select for edges. I know you were looking into it, just wondering if it would ever be possible, or if there are too many variables present to make it feasible to code.

One other request, if doable, is a quad face loop select that would process multiple edges at once? I find this necessary if I am trying to select a quad loop on an extruded arc with multiple segments and multiple quad face loops. It would be nice to select one set of connected edges and select all their quad loops at the same time. Selection memory is a bit tedious.

Thanks again for the plug...I love the new toolbar. Definitely owe you several dozen Cookies!!
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby thomthom » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:25 pm

EarthMover wrote:Is it possible to add an option to Select only "Outer Edges" and Deselect "Outer Edges"? Chris Fulmer wrote the code and mentioned in his post it may be better suited for your plugin.

Creepy! ... How did you know we where just talking about that?! :o :shock:


EarthMover wrote:Do you think a "Select Connected by Orientation" for edges would be possible? Basically I'm asking for a loop select for edges. I know you were looking into it, just wondering if it would ever be possible, or if there are too many variables present to make it feasible to code.

It's the "Orientation" part that get's a wee bit complicated to determine what is the user's expectation of correct orientation - as well as actually determining. Things is, would a loop select be ok if it selected the edges of co-planar faces? If they are not planar - then things start to become very odd to estimate...
I think what I need to do with this edge loop thing is make it have more contraints. So what are the most typical types of selections and geometry? (if any)


EarthMover wrote:One other request, if doable, is a quad face loop select that would process multiple edges at once? I find this necessary if I am trying to select a quad loop on an extruded arc with multiple segments and multiple quad face loops. It would be nice to select one set of connected edges and select all their quad loops at the same time. Selection memory is a bit tedious.

I'll add it to the list of things to look into.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby EarthMover » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:53 pm

Must be the sixth sense tingling!

Regarding orientation for loop select....in most cases that I use it, the edges are coplanar, sharing a common axis. Perhaps one way would be to add an option to select connected edges by a given axis, to better define the orientation. This would handle most of my "loop" situations...although ideally a better method would be to glean the orientation of a selected edge and select all connected edges that are running closest to that orientation. You can look at the code here from a Select edges by Z script that I believe Jim helped me put together. (which I'm sure you already know as the code is simple) Only trouble with this one is that it accounts for the whole model so I usually have to group the area first and then I can select a loop by it's Z height. It might be something to consider adding, but also giving the choice to select connected by X & Y.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby pghstone83 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:08 am

thomthom wrote:No Selection Toys under the Tools menu? that's very odd...
how/where did you install the files?

I sent the file to the plugins folder on my C drive and extracted it there.I also took in the TTLib folder that I thought I needed for the plugin to work. But when I open the TTLib file up there's another selection toys folder in there. I'm thankful for your for your patience. I'm new with this program.I've been trying to download this file for 3 days and I'm ready to lose it. Isn't the process to send these plugins to the plugins folder in C drive and simply hit extract and enable them in sketchup?
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby Chris Fullmer » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:09 am

The process is to extract the files to your SketchUp plugins folder. It doesn't matter where you save the .zip file as long as you can find it to extract from it. And then extract the contects into the plugins folder. Once you get how to do it, it is very simple and all other plugins work the same.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby pghstone83 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:17 am

Chris Fullmer wrote:The process is to extract the files to your SketchUp plugins folder. It doesn't matter where you save the .zip file as long as you can find it to extract from it. And then extract the contects into the plugins folder. Once you get how to do it, it is very simple and all other plugins work the same.

Do I have to manually remove every file in the folder or can I just hit "extract"? Some other plugins had to be opened this way for me to get them to work. Also can I just import the "Selection Toys" download or do I also need to bring that TTLib file also?
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:23 am

EarthMover wrote:Must be the sixth sense tingling!

Regarding orientation for loop select....in most cases that I use it, the edges are coplanar, sharing a common axis.

This is easier, as you can select two edges to define the plane they are co-planar to.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:31 am

pghstone83 wrote:I sent the file to the plugins folder on my C drive and extracted it there.I also took in the TTLib folder that I thought I needed for the plugin to work. But when I open the TTLib file up there's another selection toys folder in there.

There should be no selection toys folder in the TT_Lib folder. Something has gone wrong there.

pghstone83 wrote:Isn't the process to send these plugins to the plugins folder in C drive and simply hit extract and enable them in sketchup?

pghstone83 wrote:Do I have to manually remove every file in the folder or can I just hit "extract"? Some other plugins had to be opened this way for me to get them to work. Also can I just import the "Selection Toys" download or do I also need to bring that TTLib file also?

There things is; "just hit extract" depends on the extraction program you use. Some apps makes an extra unwanted folder - often happens on OSX it appears.

For Selection Toys, the files and folders you want to move to your plugins folder is:
A file named "tt_selection_toys.rb"
A folder named "TT_Select_Toys" and it's containing sub-folders.

For TT_Lib:
A folder containing "TT_Lib" - this folder should contain other *.rb files and a webdialogs folder. If it doesn't contain that, but instead just got another folder named "TT_Lib" - then check out that next "TT_Lib" folder.
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby Panga » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:32 am

Thanks for this update, and this great plugin !!
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Re: [Plugin] Selection Toys (2.1.0) — 04 January 2010

Postby pilou » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:18 am

Maybe an image of the arborescence folder/files needing result will be an help for new plugin users? ;)
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