Request for Test Hardware SKP

[Krisidious]

I would like to create a file that tested the hardward of a computer. it would have scenes that gradually got more complex and the person would time the scene changes somehow..

[John Sayers]

Kris - here's the "Crowd Test" skp file from the previous forum that is excellent for testing your puter, especially your video driver.

Sorry I can't remember who made it.

cheers
john
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/CornerBar/Crowd_Test.skp

[Juju]

Interesting concept in testing hardware there Kris.

Some other programs you could use to test the efficiency of your hardware or how well the tweaks / overclock is working (benchmarking):

Graphics Related Benchmarks:
1. Aquamark3
2. 3DMark 2001 SE
3. 3DMark03
4. 3DMark05
5. 3DMark06

CPU Related Benchmarks:
1. SuperPi Mod 1.4 (Millisecond)
2. PCMark®05
3. CrystalMark 2004
4. Cinebench
5. Sciencemark

Benchmarking Utilities:
1. A64Tweaker (for AMD CPU's)
2. Clockgen
3. CPUZ
4. Central Brain Identifier
5. Sisoft Sandra
6. Everest Home Edition
7. Prime 95 (to test stability, generally 24 hours run without issues would be fine)
8. WCPUID
9. HDTach
10. HDtune
11. OCCT Perestroika (CPU / Memory stability test)
12. Memtest x86 (useful for finding out which memory modules could be faulty)

Graphics Related Utilities:
1. RivaTuner
2. nVHardPage SE
3. ATI Tool
4. PowerStrip
5. RadLinker & RadClocker
6. NVTweak
7. TVTool
8. Rage3D Radeon Tweaker

Hope this helps somewhat!

[Krisidious]

thats quite a list Juju... we should make those into links and sticky that in hardware...

John,

interesting, I didn't know about that thread... I'll try the file out...

[Krisidious]

the reason for this post is I have 3 computers now

1. AMD 1700+ Asus mobo (old box)
2. Intel Dual Core D805 P23G mobo
3. Intel Core Duo E4300 P23G for now, overclocking with new mobo soon.

I want to test 1 file on each machine and then record the usability and then overclock the e4300 and record the effects on the test file.

it would be nice if someone tested it on some Mac's and some newer AMD's

[Will03]

that crowd is pretty sweet... I got to scene 9, and then noticed a little chopping, and by scene 11 it was getting a pretty laggy to orbit

Comp Spec:
Intel pentium D 3.4 GHz (dual core)
2 GB Ram
256 MB ATI Radeon X600

[santiagom]

got to scene 7 ok, scene 8 would go into bounding box, but would refresh inmediatly after orbit, 9 the same, 10 some lag (about 2-5 seconds) and refresh, and 11, really choppy, even in bounding box mode.

macbook, core2 duo, 2 GHz, 1 GB ram 80 GB hdd

[Edson]

iMac 20" Core 2 Duo, 3Mb RAM, 128 Mb ATI RadeonX 1600

i would say it performed well overall: scene 9 would go into bounding box, but would refresh inmediatly after orbiting, 10 the same but a little choppy at orbiting, 11 some lag (about 2 seconds)

[kdjanz]

I got to scene 7 ok, scene 8 would go into bounding box, but would refresh inmediatly after orbit, 9 the same, 10 some lag (about 2-5 seconds) and refresh, and 11, really choppy, even in bounding box mode.

macbook, core2 duo, 2 GHz, 1 GB ram 80 GB hdd

That is quite surprising to me, since the Book doesn't even have a dedicated graphics card! Not bad at all.

Kelly

[Krisidious]

my under $1000 SU Computer did all scenes with out pause... sweet... but not as impressive a test as what I was looking for... but in the right spirt... maybe they should be 3D people

[santiagom]

The performance of this machine was one of the biggest selling points. Before buying it, I brought the viewer and a heavy scene to test it. It worked more than ok. I was sold. The integrated graphics are not bad at all, though i had to turn off fast feedback.

You have to consider that:

a. the drivers for video, and pretty much everything else in macintosh machines are developed by apple.
b. osx is very opengl dependent. all the fancy animations and effects are rendered in the video card. Apple wouldn´t settle for a video card (even an integrated one) with lousy performance, or else general os performance would suffer.

[John Sayers]

From my observation of the test on the other forum it appeared the video card was more important than the CPU or RAM. My previous machine was Laptop with a P4 3.2 intel with 1.5gig RAM but with a shared 128 ATI video card and it fell over at 7. But I noticed someone else with the same setup except a faster dedicated video card and it made it to 10.

I'm now on a core-duo 2.4 - 2gig ram and a 512 video driver (Nvidia 7950) for twin 19" LCDs and it goes all out to 11.

[Planner Dude]

I have a clone pentium 4 2.99Ghz computer with an ati 128mb card and it flies through the slideshow! Utterly amazing!! Even just orbiting around, most of the peeps stay peepes, only the peeps in the background turn into boxes. The only time it slows down is when a file is on our server--which is all the time!

[Planner Dude]

[danny]

I was going to add this suggestion on the "SU wish list" thread but I saw this. I was wishing that they would make a dedicated SU benchmark that tacks the computer and at the end would give you some sort of score just like 3Dmark or like the other benches mention earlier.

I am building a new machine now and I hope it will make SU fly, I do a bit of gaming...okay alot of gaming as well as Photoshop, music, picture and video editing . Here are the specs tell me what you think.

MB: ASUS Crosshair ROG
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ (2.8GHz will clock to 3.00Ghz)
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DOMINATOR DDR2-1066, 4x1GB sticks 4GB total
HD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250620AS 250GB 16MB cache Primary
HD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3750640AS 750GB 16MB cache Secondary
DVD: PLEXTOR PX-716AL Dual Layer, Slot loading
GPU: Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 2900XT 1GB GDDR4 PCIE
SOUND CARD: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic
PSU: PC Power & Cooling ULTRA-QUIET SILENCER 610 EPS12V
OS: Windows XP PRO / Vista Home Premium dual boot (Still don't know yet if I want to do that.)

I hope I covered all the bases.

[John Sayers]

Danny - I'm running 10,000rpm primary drive, it's only 80G but it's very fast, load and save etc. rip although it's a bit noisy

I think Sketchup has resolved the ATI driver problems but I'd check if I were you

cheers
john

[danny]

Hi John, I was going to go with a Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000rpm drive as a primary but I have a friend with one and although it is at 10,000rpm I really did not notice a true real world differance. Thanks for the heads up though.

My current rig is running an ATI X850XT Platinum Edition 512MB (almost 2yrs. old now) and have not had any issues with at all. I have read that a round here but I have never experianced it.

[RegH]

My computer is a toy compared to what most of you are running, but I'm just a hobbiest.
It did get to page 8 on the test before showing the strain- bounding boxes appeared for an instant, and rotation was a little slow, but still usable.

[Edson]

macbook pro 15", 4 MB RAM, graphics card NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB

perfect up to scene 8, transitions became slightly choppy after that, bounding box from scene 9 but orbiting was fluent up to 11, refresh time very fast (a second or so)

[alpro]

Now I'm a little confused. I've read alot on this forum about graphics cards and have been researching which one to get. However when I ran the crowd test, my computer flew through it without any problems, all 11 scenes. I'm running Vista on a HP, AMD 64x2 2.6 ghz,500 GB harddrive, 4 GB of RAM, with intergrated graphics, Nvidia GeForce 6150SE. Am I missing something or is the crowd test actually not a very good measure?

Mike

[Edson]

mike,

you are probably right. perhaps we need a more demanding file to test our machines.

your setup is probably not as bad as you thought. not all computers would pass through it like yours did.

[Kenny]

If you want a demanding file try the following:
http://www.mediamax.com/kennybkdy/Hoste ... 20file.zip

I recently bought a new PC with the following specs: Windows XP 32 bit, 4GB RAM, Intel E6850 duo core processor, nVidia 6800GTX 768MB graphics card, 500GB hard drive. It's pretty fast but I was still a bit disappointed with the performance with the above file although I'm probably expecting too much. I'd be interested in how others find it. For info I timed it with the following tasks:
Opening (at scene 13): 32secs
Opening to being able to select a tool: 45secs
Shadows on: 25secs
Position camera with shadows on: 22secs
Previous view after doing so: 25secs
Orbiting with shadows: Moves almost instantly, is shaded but not textured and bounding boxes only on top windows, doors and car wheels.

Let me know how you get on!

Kenny

[not registered yet]

Boy Kenny that file of yours is a choker!
I came in about 35% behind your numbers.

I'm running SU on a 17" 2.33ghz MBP w/ 1.5Gb RAM, ATI Radeon X1600.
It's also a dual-boot system w/ OSX & XP Pro and have given both worlds
a go and prefer to work in Windoze-land w/ SU as the performance is better and
have more control over the GFX card's settings. One advantage that OSX has
over XP is that it will export much higher res stills, which I use a lot.
My projects are much smaller in scale compared to you, so I can get away with
the MBP. But after doing these test today I may have to pickup a newer MBP w/
the nVidia GeForce 8600M GT card which from what I read is more geared to SU/CAD
situations.

I can't leave the OSX world entirely (too much invested in SW).

REALLY nice model BTW!!!!

[AgentUtah]

[Edson]

kenny,

thanks for the file. i will give it a go as soon as i have a free time.