Lock toolbars

[Tobobo]

Its more of a seperate issue, but if you could take your work space with you, those who Hotdesk or travel to different offices would not have to spend 5 mins setting up the toolbars. If SU 7 had lockable toolbars and the profile system they would work together really well.

[boofredlay]

Bump.

I added a couple new ruby scripts today and what do you know... all my toolbars were flung all over my screen. And then I had to fix it all over again at home.
Please fix this Google.

[thomthom]

I made this video back in February. It gets less funny every time it happens. There's a lot of talk about V7 features, but if all it does is fix the toolbars, I'd be happy.

http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... lbars.html

Been there, done that!

[thomthom]

Another thing in regards to toolbars. Whenever I need for whatever reason to resize the SketchUp window, toolbar mayhem occurs. I wish they would not re arrange themself automatically. I prefer getting a drop down menu with the off-screen tools appearing instead as with many other application with toolbars.

This is another example where SketchUp tried to sort things out for you without actually succeeding. (Ref: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14839)

[Edson]

i found a way to lock my toobars on mac. i am not sure it works on windows.

1. in a new file i enable all the extensions i want (sketchup-->preferences-->extensions), open the toolbars not open (view-->tool palettes) and place them where i want them to stay.
2. then i save the file as a new template.

in my case, when i opened a new file only some of the toolbars opened, although they where in the right spot. if this is the case for you, go to the next step.

3. open the template file directly (file-->open) from the templates folder.
4. enable the toolbars that did not show up. save the file.
5. open a new file (file-->new). all you toolbars should be there, on the correct spot too.

[TriciaS]

Now, start on the toolbar problem

Ken

Hi Ken,

We do have some bugs recorded regarding toolbar issues. But I want to make sure we have the issue you are talking about. Can you give a quick description of it? Or maybe add it to the Bugs section?

Thanks in advance,

Tricia

[xrok1]

We do have some bugs recorded regarding toolbar issues.

do you guys use SU?

the toolbars are crazy. their never in the same place twice, when you add or remove a plugin. they stack, restack, something left across the top (horizontal)will be at the bottom (vertical) the next time; you can group them logically and then they get spread-out. very frustrating to have to get used to a different (random)interface all the time. THere should be a way to lock them, or a .ini file to keep their positions or something.

[Jeff Hammond]

Code: Select all

The status bar no longer updates on the Mac. When performing actions on the Mac that show progress in the status bar (e.g. Sandbox actions), the status bar did not update. The status bar should now show progress for lengthy tool actions.

oh, nice.



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[l.frisken]

i've also found that if I move the toolbars and then don't save before i exit it looses the position. And with all the scf toolbars i can't put more than one toolbar on a certain level. It just bumps them to different levels.

oh yeh and I'm sure that everyone wants the back button back on the component and material browser!!

[boofredlay]

We do have some bugs recorded regarding toolbar issues. But I want to make sure we have the issue you are talking about. Can you give a quick description of it? Or maybe add it to the Bugs section?

Thanks in advance,

Tricia

Have a look here:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9117&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

[thomthom]

Now, start on the toolbar problem

Ken

Hi Ken,

We do have some bugs recorded regarding toolbar issues. But I want to make sure we have the issue you are talking about. Can you give a quick description of it? Or maybe add it to the Bugs section?

Thanks in advance,

Tricia

viewtopic.php?f=79&t=15752&p=125765&hilit=toolbar+problem#p122260
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9117&hilit=+toolbar
http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... lbars.html <- Excellent illustration of the problem

• And if you should accidentally click the Restore button in the SU window title bar, the toolbars are scattered all over the place.
• If you add a new plugin which adds a new toolbar you risk it blowing up your entire toolbar setup.
• I can't seem to some free floating toolbar to remain free floating between sessions, they reattach themself to the top edge. (V-Ray toolbar)
• Freefloating toolbar's window are too small when you start up SU, it's like their size is initally calculated as if the icons where small. It restores itself when you click the toolbar though.

[BUDLA]

I dondt remember where i download it,but it working in SU 6!
Maybe working in 7 too!

Budla

[BUDLA]

I dondt remember where i download it,but it working in SU 6!
Maybe working in 7 too!

Budla

[kwistenbiebel]

Any roadmap for future updates concerning the polycount bug,slowdown bug and shadow bug?

I guess not

[Gaieus]

"Ceterum ceseo Carthaginem delendam esse..."

[Gaieus]

These last posts were split off from the "Latest release" topic.

[Ken]

Well I see the toolbar issue has been moved because it was not on subject. To me, that was the subject. I downloaded the new maintence release, approximately 15 minutes total to download and install. Fire up Sketchup and wham bam, ready not to use. So now I spend hours trying to get my drawing space back. Even now into the next day I am still fighting to get the tools bars back to position I had them before the upgrade.

This disorder happens everytime I load a new toolbar. My solution until now, which with this new release seems harder to get the toolbars into position, was to have any toolbar I thought I might ever need loaded and finally after much fuss getting them into some condensed position, without losing a great deal of drawing space and save the file as my template.

What I really want is to start off with the minimum toolbars, add what I need, subtract what I don't need, and not spend the next hours trying to get my drawing space back.

Ken

[Gaieus]

Hi Ken,

I can feel your pain. Do you thinkI loike rearranging my toolbars every time I install a new plugin or even if just resize my SU window? This should have obviously been fixed by now. Not in a way that they stay where you put them (that would be the minimum) but in a much more sophisticated way.

BUT I thinkit is obvious that with a simple maintenance release like this (when they generally fix some minor bugs mostly turned up by the big, main release only),this won't be solved.

Then what's new in the new release? Definitely not what is "not new"; a recurrent annoyance. That takes it OT and after almost a hole page going on about this, it needs to be split. The toolbar misery has it's own place - here.

[Ken]

Gaieus
I guess I was venting a little steam.

IMHO, the Google guys make a living by updating SketchUp and don’t use it for work, or they would know how much time is wasted trying to keep the most acreage on screen. Moreover, it not like it just popped up with the latest release or version. The problem has been here as far as I know since version 4.

So it is time, this has risen to the top my list of items that need a solution.

So thanks for your understanding of the my frustration, Gaieus.

Now, I will be quite and get back to work.
Ken

[remus]

Im sure it will do very little to ease your pain, but if you get enough shortcuts setup it is quite possible to model entirely with shortcuts. Combined with a choice few toolbars i have found this to be the best solution.

[xrok1]

BUT I thinkit is obvious that with a simple maintenance release like this (when they generally fix some minor bugs mostly turned up by the big, main release only),this won't be solved.

this is exactly the kind of things that service releases should be aimed at. whats the alternative, they fix it for ver.8 so they can sell it as a new feature? "buy sketchup8, now with toolbars that work the way they should." urrgh!

[Gaieus]

Im sure it will do very little to ease your pain, but if you get enough short-cuts setup it is quite possible to model entirely with short-cuts. Combined with a choice few tool-bars i have found this to be the best solution.

I actually combine this with Jim's tool-bar plug-in and have stripped my SU window entirely off the tool-bars. Now the only "native" tool-bar is Jim's and there are a couple of plug-ins placed nicely under each other but everything is floating next to my SU window where I don't have any tool-bars.

About 80% of the cases I use short-cuts anyway and this allows me to "dump" all those icons the tool of which I'd use with short-cuts anyway and to keep only those plug-ins "alive" that I'm currently using for that particular model (e.g. I don't need the Kerky exporter or the IDX Renditioner tool-bars) while modelling.

Yes, I KNOW this is a sort of workaround (but this is SketchUp after all and we are masters at workarounds, aren't we?) but has one very big advantage as well; since Jim's script stores the tool-bar info in an external file, I can set it up once and carry it from computer to computer without any problem.

[notareal]

there is a little trick to help you, once you are happy with your toolbar arrangement, close sketchup (the UI gets saved internally). anytime your screen gets resized, or messed up, or your toolbars change - don't close sketchup, open another instance of sketchup - this one opens with the original UI. then close both windows but make sure that you close the clean and tidy @last

this way your clean UI gets saved as last overwriting the messy one (since all instances of sketchup share one UI setting)

Thanks for the tip. This has been one major annoyance.

[putnik]

+1
Registry tweak works OK only till the next installation of a new script with toolbar which is always followed by another toolbar chaos. Google, please fix this.

[RayOchoa]

+1 happened to me today

[Pixero]

I've found a good way of placing toolbars is to click in the lower left part of a menu and release it at the upper left part where you want it it doesnt "jump back" to where it was.

[Pixero]

Bump.

I added a couple new ruby scripts today and what do you know... all my toolbars were flung all over my screen. And then I had to fix it all over again at home.
Please fix this Google.

When ever I add a new script it A L W A Y S the Sandbox toolbar that moves around and mess things up. Is it the same for you?

[thomthom]

When ever I add a new script it A L W A Y S the Sandbox toolbar that moves around and mess things up. Is it the same for you?

Nopes. Any toolbar. Often all.

[MALAISE]

You can also using the Toolsbar Menu, unselect all items. Close SU and reopen, you'll get a brand new space and reselect step by step all favourites !
But it looks like some dressing ( first aid) on a piece of wood ( very bad translation's French say )

MALAISE

[halroach]

The Jumping Toolbar Syndrome! - PARTIAL SOLUTION
Sometimes I find myself battling the toolbars to get them all tight and snug (after the installation of a new ruby toolbar).
for example:
I have three lines of toolbars lets say, and two of them are full, with the third line containing only a few buttons. I then try to place another toolbar on the third line, and instead of if being placed right next to it, it's placed on a fourth line, wasting all that space on the third line... argggh

I have found a solution to the jumping toolbar problem!
you must pack and cram each line of toolbars all the way to the end, until one of the toolbars get cropped, and then cram one more toolbar until one of the toolbars shifts to the next line automatically (sort of like an auto carriage return, or wordwrap). Now you can rearrange the toolbars on the third line, and they won't jump around! and you can replace the cropped toolbar from the second line to the third line too...

Hope This Helps Someone