'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby kwistenbiebel » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:41 pm

Hi all,
I found this model on 3warehouse, from the hand of FL Wright: "Massaro residence" : the design sketches for the cantilevered house were made in the 50's but the residence was post mortem built in 2007 (design reconstruction by a disciple of FLW).

You can find the model here:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=a90fa77dc812122aa67c15d9691c6a73&prevstart=0

The texturing on the original was really bad so I quickly changed some of the mats, rendered it for 10 minutes in Podium 1.51 (noisy settings) and did a dirty 'mask in' with some image grabs from a similar lake on Google images.

I didn't spent much time on matching the view correctly...so this is kind of an interpretation. As I said above: quick and dirty ;)

Regards,
kwistenbiebel

The Podium 1.5 rendering (+ pshop for surroundings):
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby kwistenbiebel » Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:06 pm

An image of the real thing:

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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby Gaieus » Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:38 pm

Ha, nice (as usual). Fits in almost seamlessly! A very cool idea this way!
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby kwistenbiebel » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:43 pm

Thank you :)


The next one is rendered using fryrender...

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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby remus » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:04 pm

i prefer the water of the fryrender one, but then i prefer the overally look of the podium one :roll: theyre all very good realy :bounce:
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby kwistenbiebel » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:44 pm

Thanks Remus.


A side view without surroundings...

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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby Gaieus » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:02 pm

These are ALL awesome! I couldn't really tell which one I like better like remus.
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby kwistenbiebel » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:06 pm

Thank you Gaeius :).

The same view as the last one, but with the 'built-in' bloom option of Fry:
Somehow, adding bloom seems to wash out the image easily but the appearance is softer...

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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby Gaieus » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:09 pm

I can see the difference and I can even guess what this option is but could you explain it a little bit?
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby kwistenbiebel » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:15 pm

BLOOM, (sometimes referred to as light bloom) is a graphics effect to reproduce an imaging artifact of real-world cameras. The effect produces fringes (or feathers) of light around very bright objects in an image.

The physical basis of bloom is that, in the real world, lenses can never focus perfectly. Even a perfect lens will convolve the incoming image with an Airy disc (the diffraction pattern produced by passing a point light source through a circular aperture) . Under normal circumstances, these imperfections aren't noticeable; but, an intensely bright light source will cause the imperfections to become visible. As a result, the image of the bright light appears to bleed beyond its natural borders.


(text from wikipedia)
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby Gaieus » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:24 pm

I already kind thought "hm... rather technical explanation that I wouldn't have expected" when I saw this:
text from wikipedia

:D

Thanks...
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby remus » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:16 pm

ive got a new favourite, the last one! i prefer tis softness when compared to the other ones.
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby SchreiberBike » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:54 pm

Really nice. If you could do the "bloom" on the water and the stone (maybe even more on the stone, but leave the cantilever bright, I'll bet that would look even better.
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby kwistenbiebel » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:02 pm

I know what you mean....
That would indeed prevent the bloom washing out the whole image, as some parts would remain crisp.
I'll keep that in mind for next try.


A last one, presented as a mellow tribute to FLW ;) :

The rendering and SU screengrab (almost same viewpoint) side by side




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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby alpro » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:55 pm

kwistenbiebel, those are all some very nice renders. Fryrender seems to do a better job with the water, I also like the bloom effect. Is Fryrender still in beta?, I looked at it awhile back but thought the price to be a little steep for a program in beta. Also how's the set up time and the learning curve?

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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby starsheep » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:16 am


:family:
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby kwistenbiebel » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:28 pm

Hey, that's a thread hijack...

(but a real cool rendering nevertheless ;) )
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby solo » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:39 pm

I still prefer the fry render ones best.

Excellent work again Biebel.
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Re: 'Quick and dirty' FLW: Massaro house

Postby starsheep » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:05 pm

:D
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